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[2nd Update: Request Granted and Delivered] Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
I just wrote this to Overloud, "In Light of Cakewalk closing down. Many Sonar users are looking to migrate to another DAW. It is sad that they cannot take their very much loved th3, Breverb and Rematric with them. Perhaps I would like to suggest that overloud provide a special for Sonar users. A nominal fee for vst version of their Sonar/Overloud product and upgrade price for the full version." Those of you who feel the same way could you please make the same request to overloud at https://overloud.com/contacts. Perhaps if there are enough number of request Overloud might just decided to do that?
post edited by musichoo - 2017/12/04 10:43:16
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ZincTrumpet
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 11:12:32
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Good idea musichoo and thanks for doing this. I have done the same and asked them to post any offers in the Software subforum. I will especially miss Breverb 2 if and when Sonar no longer works. Cheapest upgrade for Breverb 2 currently is around $83 in cart from JRRSHOP with free Galaxy X-FX ( https://www.jrrshop.com/overloud-breverb-2 )
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ZincTrumpet
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 11:36:37
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I have already received a reply from Overloud, so fingers crossed...
Thank you for your suggestion, we are working to find a solution about this sad issue.
Best regards,
Gabrielle
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 13:03:26
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ZincTrumpet
I have already received a reply from Overloud, so fingers crossed...
Thank you for your suggestion, we are working to find a solution about this sad issue.
Best regards,
Gabrielle
Overloud Support Team
That's great news, ZincTrumpet! Still I made another request to Overloud. The more asking, the better the odds...
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 13:12:38
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Done. Great idea. Losing Breverb is one of the more depressing thoughts about all this..
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 13:18:40
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☄ Helpfulby jmasno5 2017/11/27 19:31:36
Same applies to EFX like NOMAD, RGC:AUDIO, PEAVEY and Cakewalks own EFX like Adaptive Limiter etc??
All popping up with Sonar only or throttled / bypassed if opened.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 14:54:40
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I think most likely scenario is offer of reduced upgrade to stand alone product. It would seem odd for them to devote manhours to unlocking programs for free. Very cool if they did but unlikely.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 15:11:49
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Great idea.....I also made a request.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 15:21:07
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dubdisciple
I think most likely scenario is offer of reduced upgrade to stand alone product. It would seem odd for them to devote manhours to unlocking programs for free. Very cool if they did but unlikely.
Yes .. was thinking the same myself. I reckon we might get an offer from Overloud etc but it will involve ponying up.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 15:38:28
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☄ Helpfulby aidanodr 2017/11/27 16:01:59
Cake paid these 3rd party plugs for use with SONAR. And any company worth their salt won't want to piss off potential customers that are already using and liking their products. But to expect them to give you their product for free because of Cakewalk's bad business decisions is a bit much. It would be pretty to think so, but that is not usually the way the world works.
As stated above, I imagine the third party software will make an honest attempt to keep us as discount-paying customers, but feeling sorry for Cake users will only put them in the same economic boat as Cake if they give away their product.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 16:30:03
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☄ Helpfulby bobguitkillerleft 2017/12/25 04:51:08
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Cake paid these 3rd party plugs for use with SONAR. And any company worth their salt won't want to piss off potential customers that are already using and liking their products. But to expect them to give you their product for free because of Cakewalk's bad business decisions is a bit much. It would be pretty to think so, but that is not usually the way the world works.
As stated above, I imagine the third party software will make an honest attempt to keep us as discount-paying customers, but feeling sorry for Cake users will only put them in the same economic boat as Cake if they give away their product.
I understand your point and argument, but also remember WE paid for those 3rd party plugins as part of the package cost for Sonar Platinum. Those plugins are a major reason why it cost more than say Artist. It isn't like they were free to us because we use Cakewalk, we paid for them as part of the premium package.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 17:05:24
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Both TH3/BreVerb have been around for a while, not sure if Overloud would find it useful to maintain a light version for a discontinued DAW.
A more reasonable expectation might be a discounted upgrade to the existing full version, which used to be available through the Cakewalk store.
The ProChannel version of BreVerb has no home outside of SONAR (that I know of).
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 17:11:58
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☄ Helpfulby ZincTrumpet 2017/11/27 17:36:34
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But to expect them to give you their product for free because of Cakewalk's bad business decisions is a bit much. It would be pretty to think so, but that is not usually the way the world works.
I'm porting the Gibson Bass Expansion Pack to Presence XT (the sampler included in Studio One Pro), and have asked whether PreSonus would be willing to give it free to Cakewalk users who had bought the version for Rapture. They agreed that it would be the right thing to do.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 17:12:36
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☄ Helpfulby Ionian 2017/11/29 06:11:45
Yes and you also pay for the BF goodrich tires on your car when you buy a new car.. but you can't expect to ask for a free set of BF Goodrich tires when the company is gone under and you want those nice tires for your other new car.
I'm afraid part of the reason these companies make their products free with any given DAW is to help boost awareness and promote their product, but the deal they made was,, OK you can include it, but it's tied to your DAW only. We are only lucky that this was not the deal that all the companies made with Cakewalk.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 17:30:24
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The full version of TH3 is currently discounted by $80 on overloud.com and sweetwater (and probably other places). The discount is, of course, for any one that wants to buy the full version...no upgrade required.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 17:37:48
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☄ Helpfulby BrianSzep 2017/11/27 18:39:22
Latest email from Overloud
We are still working with Cakewalk to create a special upgrading method of Sonar users.
Best regards,
Gabriele
OVERLOUD Support Team
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anydmusic
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 18:08:22
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Has anyone contacted TruePianos or Nomad?
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 19:01:47
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I was looking at the full version sale for TH3 too. It says it has breverb based reverbs included in the full bundle.
I like the darkness of breverb and the flexibility of TH3. TH3 keeps revealing new things and I love discovering something I didn't know about or wasn't using (swapping mics on the cabs for instance is my new thing). I would consider paying in for the full version even as I keep using sonar as it is for a few more years.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 21:05:32
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musichoo
I just wrote this to Overloud,
"In Light of Cakewalk closing down. Many Sonar users are looking to migrate to another DAW. It is sad that they cannot take their very much loved th3, Breverb and Rematric with them. Perhaps I would like to suggest that overloud provide a special for Sonar users. A nominal fee for vst version of their Sonar/Overloud product and upgrade price for the full version."
Those of you who feel the same way could you please make the same request to overloud at https://overloud.com/contacts. Perhaps if there are enough number of request Overloud might just decided to do that?
Nice. Yesterday, I also wrote Overloud asking them to provide an upgrade path for Sonar Breverb users. I mentioned that it was locked to Sonar and that it would be helpful to have a way of updating/upgrading it to a version that could be used on other DAWS. As it is now, there is no path to upgrade Sonar's Breverb to the full version other than buying the full version. So thanks for doing this.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 21:10:41
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Cactus Music
Yes and you also pay for the BF goodrich tires on your car when you buy a new car.. but you can't expect to ask for a free set of BF Goodrich tires when the company is gone under and you want those nice tires for your other new car.
I'm afraid part of the reason these companies make their products free with any given DAW is to help boost awareness and promote their product, but the deal they made was,, OK you can include it, but it's tied to your DAW only. We are only lucky that this was not the deal that all the companies made with Cakewalk.
Not a great analogy I do expect that I can take the tires off of the car that I bought and put them on a different car should my car break down. It is a two fold piece, one of which is marketing and brand awareness, the other is revenue. They don't give away these light versions for free.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/27 21:13:53
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I'm glad I purchased the full version of TH3 Overloud, and their Mark Bass 2, they work in any daw as I purchased the full version. It would be nice if Nomad Factory would also make a fix available for their plugins to be used in other daws.
I've made up my mind I am going to continue to use Sonar Pro for as long as I can, as it is working perfectly for me now after having problems a month or so ago. Thing is though, I just record music for myself and I am not running a real studio, so I understand how this is a big issue for others who may have to update hardware and change daws due to OS issues etc....
I wish there was someway Adaptive Limiter could be used in other daw's also, but I suspect that will never happen.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 01:43:32
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I too wrote Overloud and received this reply from Gabriele:
"Waiting to found a more permanent solution, If you send to me your Sonar serial number i will send to your a coupon to purchase TH3 full and REmatrix at 99 dollars each. This price is valid only until today, because tomorrow the Black Friday sales will finish."
FWIW, Breverb 2 is already discounted to $99 for a few more hours.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 01:51:02
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I just bought Breverb for US$99.
I need closure!
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 01:51:27
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Overloud has BReverb2 upgrades on sale for $59 (for version 1 to version 2, not the SONAR version). It'd be nice if they offered SONAR users that upgrade price too.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 01:54:57
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I think they are, anyone can buy at the sale price( update if they have previous FULL version, except for the 'Cakewalk Version' people), that is probably why they said they will send him a coupon
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 07:31:08
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I have not heard from Overloud even though I contacted them this weekend.
At least this thread casts some hope.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 07:43:40
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I think what those who feel we paid for these plugs fail to understand is that no, we did not pay for these plugins. We paid for the right to use them under a controlled set of circumstances. If we had actually paid for them, the price of Sonar would be much higher. It's like buying wholesale and demanding full retail value refund.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 08:19:07
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☄ Helpfulby Ionian 2017/11/29 06:12:33
Most of the third party providers have been offering a deal to Sonar users to upgrade to the full product for years.
Most of us have been happy just using the locked version.
Now Sonar is dead and the value of the locked version is diminished some want a special deal.
And they want it now.
I'm sure that some and may be all of the third parties will offer a deal but they are not going to do it until they know the potential benefit to them and any knock on to the customers who already paid full price or paid to upgrade the Sonar version.
It's not their fault that Cakewalk has folded and there is a good chance that Cakewalk owes them money meaning that they are victims too.
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/28 08:19:32
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Re: Request for Overloud Sonar version products to be made VST
2017/11/29 03:37:39
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☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/11/29 03:54:24
Bought a TH2 upgrade to TH3 yesterday on Musician'sFriend, and when I finally got the serial today I saw this:
www .overloud.com/news/overloud-welcomes-cakewalk-customers (I don't have enough posts to have links show up sorry.)
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