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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:16:35 (permalink)
Thanks, I'll try to give it a spin at lunch time and see if it will cooperate with my Babyface.
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:16:54 (permalink)
Definitely something amiss here...

I'll try it as a VST...


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:22:04 (permalink)
If I need support then it was a waste of money...IJS...

It works fine in Sonar...

Just the Standalone that won't work....
 


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:22:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/10/29 11:56:34
I have it working well with ASIO. I had to select my interface for both input and output before it would select either.   Dan
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:24:12 (permalink)
Yep...I get nothing out of the Standalone with the Focusrite Asio driver...
 
Both input and output meters are registering...but  no sound other
then my dry guitar...


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:25:53 (permalink)
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I have it working well with ASIO. I had to select my interface for both input and output before it would select either.   Dan



Yep...that did it....dumb....but it works...thanx Dan!
They were all showing...but once I selected from the dropdown it
started working...


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:26:42 (permalink)
I really didn't expect it to be released this quickly....well done IK. Downloaded the 295MB file....installing now.....

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:45:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/10/29 11:56:28
 
Glad you got it working Larry. After all the money you cost me I was glad to help.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:46:28 (permalink)
Initial impressions for going through the presets...

Cleans are nice...crunches are nice...

I'm going to have to spend some time with this to determine
any more...not sure where I stand yet...while the sound is 
good...I can't say it's "Hyper-realistic"...so will have to experiment
and see where I land..


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:51:05 (permalink)
Dumb question...
 
The download page shows Custom shop released today, and Amplitube 4 released 9/10/15.
Same size files but different serial numbers. Do we need both?
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 11:54:06 (permalink)
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Dumb question...
 
The download page shows Custom shop released today, and Amplitube 4 released 9/10/15.
Same size files but different serial numbers. Do we need both?
 
John



The A4 download will install all that you need...


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 12:01:00 (permalink)
Thanks Larry.  Downloading now.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 13:16:17 (permalink)
Ok..have to say...nothing is making me go "wow"...
went through all the new amps, and presets...
I wouldn't even say that is is marginally better then A3...
other then the Cab, Room, and Speaker options...

Maybe I'm crazy...but it's just not "there"....for me anyways...

Obviously more time will be needed...unlike S-Gear, where I plugged
in, chose a preset, and said "Holy Crap"...


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 13:32:29 (permalink)
Although the overall sounds are quite good, I also have to agree with you Larry on this being marginally better than A3 (of course this is just my initial impression going through all the presets). I'm also not quite sure what "Hyper-Realistic" really means........but I'm sure I can get some very good tones out of it with a bit of tweaking.......like I did with A3. I'll need to spend a little more time on it and see what all this "hype" is all about.... 
 
I noticed that in the "Miscellaneous Presets", many of them stated "the current preset uses models that are not installed". Does this mean:
 
1) I already have these models (in my A3 collection??) and just needs installation or
 
2) I have to purchase all of these a la carte, just so I can hear why A4 included them as a preset? (not going to be happy if this is the case.....)

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 13:41:04 (permalink)
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Although the overall sounds are quite good, I also have to agree with you Larry on this being marginally better than A3 (of course this is just my initial impression going through all the presets). I'm also not quite sure what "Hyper-Realistic" really means........but I'm sure I can get some very good tones out of it with a bit of tweaking.......like I did with A3. I'll need to spend a little more time on it and see what all this "hype" is all about.... 
 
I noticed that in the "Miscellaneous Presets", many of them stated "the current preset uses models that are not installed". Does this mean:
 
1) I already have these models (in my A3 collection??) and just needs installation or
 
2) I have to purchase all of these a la carte, just so I can hear why A4 included them as a preset? (not going to be happy if this is the case.....)



I got the same message on several of them...mind you I own EVERY Collection other then Mesa, and just about everything else...so it's amazing that I didn't "own" these items...

But, they are, indeed, ala carte items Mesh....

I went another step and added A4 to a mix of a a song I'm working on (very SLOWLY), and it 
did make a difference.  I replaced the 2 instances of Bias FX I had on the rhythm guitars with 
A4 and selected one of the "Stock" Heavy Rhythm guitars (9000 I believe)  from A4, and I did like it slightly better,
and, as you said, with with some tweaking, I'm sure this will be good...but I'm still not "wowed" 


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 15:10:09 (permalink)
Everything installed and worked correctly here, my old stuff seems to function without need for any intervention on my part, I have everything released for Amplitube 3.
 
Have to give it a proper drive over the weekend, but thus far all I can say is that BIAS FX and TH2 are fairly safe at the TOP of the ladder. I didn't get any 'WOW' factor thus far from AMP4, it's ok, nice, just not 'WOW' or up there with the competition from my view so far. The weekend will tell if any of that changes, so far Amplitube 4 has left me with that old more of the same 'meh' feeling.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 15:17:52 (permalink)
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Although the overall sounds are quite good, I also have to agree with you Larry on this being marginally better than A3 (of course this is just my initial impression going through all the presets). I'm also not quite sure what "Hyper-Realistic" really means........but I'm sure I can get some very good tones out of it with a bit of tweaking.......like I did with A3. I'll need to spend a little more time on it and see what all this "hype" is all about.... 
 
I noticed that in the "Miscellaneous Presets", many of them stated "the current preset uses models that are not installed". Does this mean:
 
1) I already have these models (in my A3 collection??) and just needs installation or
 
2) I have to purchase all of these a la carte, just so I can hear why A4 included them as a preset? (not going to be happy if this is the case.....)




I only rattled through a few of the ones in the Misc presets, but the worked fine for me, no not installed messages, also tried some of my other stuff from Amp 3, it all seemed to work, what I tried anyway. I own everything there is to own from Amp3. Didn't do anything other than install, Auth, select ASIO driver, then fire it up.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 15:38:18 (permalink)
If that's the case, those Miscellaneous presets are just a bunch of handicapped presets that's better off being avoided..........I can just build my own rig from scratch.
 
Somewhat pointless in having in a full version......maybe my expectations are a bit too high in expecting to click on a given preset and hoping to hear the sound of that preset......(this type of behavior is common in demo versions of VST's.    

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 15:39:03 (permalink)
AAAAARGH!!!!
 
Screwed again, my own fault for not keeping up with technology...
 
My main computer is a rock solid 32 bit win XP, receding fast into the dark ages.
 
Looks like Amp 4 is 64 bit only... Oh well, got a win 7 laptop 64 bit...
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 15:49:22 (permalink)
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If that's the case, those Miscellaneous presets are just a bunch of handicapped presets that's better off being avoided..........I can just build my own rig from scratch.
 
Somewhat pointless in having in a full version......maybe my expectations are a bit too high in expecting to click on a given preset and hoping to hear the sound of that preset......(this type of behavior is common in demo versions of VST's.    


They should work if you own the missing pieces, maybe you have to do a restore my gear from the Amp4 customshop ? I didn't have to do anything and everything I tried worked, including stuff from before Amp4, only had time to try a limited selection, but still.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 16:03:39 (permalink)
I have lots of presets with missing pieces for effects/amps/cabs that I don't own. I avoid them by only selecting presets in the collections that I do own in the dropdown menus and browser. I would vote for a feature request to only show pertinent presets and gear but I'm sure it has a lot to do with marketing.
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 16:11:53 (permalink)
I too cannot use many of the misc. presets. I am not finding much if any difference in sound between A3 & A4 when switching from one to the other on things I already own. There also does not seem to be a lot of new content. Overall not impressed.   Dan
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 16:31:59 (permalink)
OK...got it DLed, authorized and ran through the new additions.  Programmed up a couple of new amp/fx stacks too.
 
First impression is very good. Love the new speaker selector, amp room and mixer.  Haven't fooled with the looper or recorder yet.  I honestly think it sounds better...hyper realistic?...what the heck does that even mean?  But better.  Seems stable so far. 
 
BUT...
 
If that new "acoustic simulator" plug is supposed to do something it wasn't happening for me.  I twiddled every slider and knob and not much change at all to my strat.  Is there a "trick" to it??
 
Also, when I went to name my new amp stacks...I couldn't...at least not what I wanted to, as letters like A and P and others wouldn't type...EVEN AFTER CLICKING ON THE "GIVE ALL KEYSTROKES TO THE PLUGIN" THINGY.  Is there a workaround for this?
 
Still needs a better gate.  A much better gate.  Which leads me to a blanket criticism of most all amp sims.  If our new technology is so all fired hot then why can't they make high gain amps and settings WITHOUT the hiss and hum and squeal??  It's like all the comp and eq and console emus that have a knob to "add back" the hiss of the original unit.  Those of us who are old enough to have worked with the hardware fought every single day to get rid of it.  At least with those you can turn it off.  But not these amp sims. 
 
Anywhoo...so far so good.  Kudos IK!
 
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 16:39:09 (permalink)
My IKM account has both the Amplitude CS(v4.) and the Amplitude 4; they have two different serial numbers, but when I download both of them, they are the same download.  Which serial number do I use?  The one for the new v4 Amplitude CS or the Amplitude 4?
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 16:46:51 (permalink)
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I too cannot use many of the misc. presets. I am not finding much if any difference in sound between A3 & A4 when switching from one to the other on things I already own. There also does not seem to be a lot of new content. Overall not impressed.   Dan



This was my conclusion also Dan.  Is it better?  Minorly.  But not really impressed either.
Yes, the new Speaker Room, and 3D mics, and speaker selection, etc are very welcome
additions, but even when moving the mics there is not "a lot" of adjustment and not "a lot"
of difference overall, as there would be with a "real" mic in front of a speaker cabinet...
so overall I don't find a "wow" factor of improvement.  But it is what it is...
IK has always been a "Hype"...er....


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 16:55:32 (permalink)
Another thing is that the promo makes it sound like you get all the new speaker options.  You don't.  There are several that are greyed out and require additional purchase.

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 16:59:49 (permalink)
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Another thing is that the promo makes it sound like you get all the new speaker options.  You don't.  There are several that are greyed out and require additional purchase.



And rest assured MANY more to come....


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 17:15:39 (permalink)
Yeah, found the same thing. Greyed out presets and choices, but it's my guess a business gimmick to get into your credit card further down the road if you want to "upgrade". Not fond of this model. Would rather have what I paid for there without the voided ads.
 
This aside, except for slapping too much reverb on some of the presets, Amp 4 is quite good. Hyper realism (?). Can't find it no more worthy than what S-Gear already delivers. Admit I have to dig deeper to maybe realize what the hype is all about. Just have not found it yet.
 
Installation and authorization was fast and without flaw. Presets and pieces from Amp 3 were automatically picked, which was one of my first concerns. The guys do allow a liberal 10 authorizations before you have to beg.
 
The unit does sound nice. Have only to realize what magic bullet separates it from Amp 3 or several other worthy contenders out there.
 
Wish only there was a retro 32 bit version.
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 17:20:18 (permalink)
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Another thing is that the promo makes it sound like you get all the new speaker options.  You don't.  There are several that are greyed out and require additional purchase.


This is a big disappointment!!!  I had no interest in the new "marshall" type amps, but what got me to purchase A4 was then new speaker cab config and the switching of these speakers.  No, and just now after purchase, we find out that you have to purchase the extra speakers to have this work.  Again, this is a big disappointment.  
 
Just a first impression, but I am not happy, and certainly not excited about this purchase. {btw--I did get A4 installed and authorized, and restored all my gear}




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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/29 17:46:35 (permalink)
How does one restore  all their gear?
 
 
I see the import legacy tab, just don't know yet where to find the folder.
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