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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/31 19:56:59 (permalink)
No the tube doesn't coming included with any amp collection either I don't think, I just checked the contents all the amp collections and at least those 2, the bottle and the tube aren't included. I think that's why I just brought everything, then everything just works, no annoying pop ups etc. IK, they know a thing or 2 about marketing :)

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/31 21:26:13 (permalink)
Okay, I'll probably buy that mic then...it's the only one I don't have. It's $4.99. Now that I have decided to like A4...I wouldn't mind having those Mesa amps. They will be on sale soon enough, I learned long ago to never pay full price for anything IK.

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/31 21:37:25 (permalink)
They are quite magnificent for the most part. (Mesa/Boogie)
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/31 21:44:14 (permalink)
Is the Fender thing ever less than 149? That's about the only one I would spring for.

 
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/31 21:51:12 (permalink)
Maybe in the coming weeks, keep an eye out, you never know

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/31 22:19:50 (permalink)
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Is the Fender thing ever less than 149? That's about the only one I would spring for.


The Fender collection is the reason I own Amplitube. Even though they are 5 or 6 years old, they are still the best Fender sims I've ever played through. I got that for $99 a couple of years ago. Expect big sales from IK for Christmas.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/10/31 22:25:36 (permalink)
How about a certain Fender model with the ability to swap components in the tone stack, etc.? DIY Dumble!

 
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 02:08:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/11/02 08:45:07
Well I gave it a good bash for a couple of days, didn't do much more comparing against AmpliTube 3 after the initial comparison with the Mesa/Boogie, which did sound better to me in AmpliTube 4. I didn't mind the Red Pig, and the Brit Silver, but apart from that I didn't think much of the other amps. I think AmpliTube 4 is certainly better than, a step up from AmpliTube 3, I was never that keen on AmpliTube 3 to start with, although I do like the Orange Collection and a few other amps like the ENGL, Soldano, and a few more. What I did find is that after a couple of days just playing with AmpliTube 4, when I switched to BIAS FX Pro, the difference was immediate, it's like a slap in the face, BIAS just sounds better straight up, better sound quality, just better is all I can say.
 
I see a lot of people who like Amp3/4's Fender amps, I have never liked them, in fact always thought they sounded like sh!te, so I fired up a '67 Blackface and a '59 Tweed Deluxe in BIAS FX Pro, played them for a while and compared them to the Fender Collection, again, to my ears there is no comparison, the difference to me is immediate and unmistakable, it just sounds better, a better quality of sound, I don't know, that's the best I can describe it, whether or not 1 or the other sounds more authentic or not, I don't know, and whether or not they are modeled after a certain amp or not I don't know, but it's easy to tell they were both shooting for a similar target, and to be honest it doesn't matter to me whether the BIAS FX Pro version was modeled after a falling tree branch, the fact is it just sounds better, full stop. And it's not just sound, it's a feel as well if that makes sense.
 
I said earlier that I wouldn't have paid full price of $149 for AmpliTube 4, and that I wasn't sure if the pre order price $99 was worth it, well, if I had my time over again, I would just skip it all together, it's not really worth it to me, I have stuff which is so much better, stuff I can get far better tones out of. And to whoever it was above who suggested a price of $49 or whatever for AmpliTube 4, I'd say yeah, that would be about right.
 
So I have now removed AmpliTube 3 and 4 and all associated stuff, I won't be updating them any longer or maintaining them or spending any more time money on them, I had hoped, but unfortunately AmpliTube just isn't up there with leaders of the pack in my view. I have had a bit of a clean out, S-Gear 2, Revalver 3dot5 and 4, Guitar Rig 5, Recabinet 4, Vandal, AmpLion Pro (rolls eye's) have all been removerd, I'm just keeping BIAS Amp Pro, BIAS FX Pro, TH2, the Kuassa Amps, TSE, GTR 3.5 and a few excellent freebies like Ignite Amps and LePou. I'll continue to get whatever comes along and looks to be good, but if they don't stack up just uninstall them and put them in the pile. Not really into demos, the only way is with the full product and no restrictions.
 
Hopefully TH3 might be just around the corner, there are a few whispers, but . . . here's hoping. Oh and check out BIAS Pedal for any distortion needs, it really is very AWESOME in that area, I have been using it for a while via the explorer program, it was released a couple of days ago, it kicks major arse, and much fun to boot.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 02:47:03 (permalink)
And my experience was just the opposite. I heard a huge difference between Bias and Amp4 on the a/b. Amp4 is switched in for all my amps on that tune now. It really cleaned up and separated the acoustic and tele rhythm tracks.

 
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 08:14:20 (permalink)
Just goes to show that we all need to play these sims for our self, and make our own custom patches with each to make the correct choice for our own taste and feel. I tried the Bias desk demo when it first came out and didn't like it, and IMO Amplitube's Fender amps are pretty much spot on with the 'real' amps I used for years. Of course this doesn't mean what's right for me is right for everyone else...I'm glad we have so many options and that most players can find something that works for them. Regardless of which sim you decide to keep and use...they all seem to be getting better every year and they all seem to be capable of getting good results in the end.
 
 

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 08:32:41 (permalink)
The more I play with Amplitube 4, the more I like it.
It's still not "OMG" but it is better then 3...and I guess
that does mean something...the improved interface and the better setup options
(mic, cab, speaker, room) are nice, as is the new tuner.  
The addition of the DAW was a waste, especially for those
of us (the overwhelming vast majority) that already use
a DAW.  That effort should have been towards more content.

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 08:33:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/11/02 08:48:03
I think sometimes we tend to forget that EVERYONE's needs are different! It has never been a matter of this product being better than that product. It will always be about finding the tool that satisfies YOUR needs and then trying to get as much knowledge as possible how to use that tool.
Something else that is critical that hardly anyone thinks about is that no two people have the same hearing perception! Everyones ears are PHYSICALLY shaped different just like fingerprints, or so I was told. For this reason someones perception of what sounds great may not sound the same to the person standing next to you. I lean more towards more melodic playing than shredding. My needs are met better by a product that doesn't always fall in to full blown sheets of distortion. Though, to satisfy my clients I may need that sound from time to time. I think sometimes we forget that it's about versatility for a lot of us guitarist. 
We use what we must in studio work to get the finished results. Whatever works for one may not work for the other. Find what works for you and stick with it but we shouldn't just dismiss other tools that may very well be better for some situations than others. If one tool works for everything you do, GREAT! I find myself using many diverse combinations of amp sims and like the differences between them.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 08:50:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2015/11/01 18:48:03
Hello Mr. Sidroe, it is interesting that rational thought in a morass of divergent opinions can lead to a barrage of epithets from either side.
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 08:56:44 (permalink)
Quite good reception over at KVR.

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 09:01:59 (permalink)
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The more I play with Amplitube 4, the more I like it.
It's still not "OMG" but it is better then 3...and I guess
that does mean something...the improved interface and the better setup options
(mic, cab, speaker, room) are nice, as is the new tuner.  
The addition of the DAW was a waste, especially for those
of us (the overwhelming vast majority) that already use
a DAW.  That effort should have been towards more content.

Anyways...it is what it is...and it's here...like it or not...


I agree. The daw I'll never use, the looper I'll never use. This update was all about the cabs, mics and rooms. I'm still not hearing a huge difference from A3, but I do like A4. The gui is a nice change. It's worth the $69 I paid. I'm not going to spend any time comparing the two. I'm just moving forward with A4 and looking forward to whatever Mike Scuffham does next. I would like to give Bias another shot some time, but my spending decisions going forward are going to be very frugal. Many programs I use will need to start adding something for me to earn my money.

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 10:46:53 (permalink)
I'm planning on giving the looper a try as part of my practice routine. I've been watching Greg's Guitars of late on YouTube and he just riffs over little loops he's built. Looks simple...and fun.

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 12:12:08 (permalink)
Welcome, Jesse! I see you have just joined us here. Glad to see a new member. You will find in time that one must use caution in most any forum when it comes to expressing an opinion. Some posts spark great conversations while the simplest attempt at humor can ignite a firestorm of opinions. There is never a dull moment here for sure! I still feel that the forums here are absolutely some of the best people and info you can find to aid you in most any problems you may have concerning digital recording in general. Welcome!

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 12:38:29 (permalink)
Ditto Sid.
Clint    I spent a bunch over the past 4 years (after a long dark 5 year gap)and seem to calmed down quite a bit! LOL
It finally hit me that I probably have much more than I will get around to using. I seem to get "good" at one thing that pleases me and keep refining that.  I do love it when I see/hear something that's very cool and I already own it! LOL
     The older I get the more that arrangements are the target and the better those get, the less sweetening they need or rather... a little seems to go a lot further.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/01 19:04:41 (permalink)
Well stated, Pentimento!

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 09:28:31 (permalink)
I should've added it's way more fun and satisfying, too! LOL
 
Not that I don't have a lot of fun with all these plug ins. I haven't really even explored reamping yet, but that's coming very soon. Hopefully in the next 10 days my contractor will be making my breezeway a year round tracking room. I can hardly wait!
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 10:50:41 (permalink)
Is there anything remotely resembling a klon(in its clean slight boost setting)? In real life, I have a Mythical Overdrive, which is as close as anything I've tried, and I did get an overnighter with a klon once. "He" borrowed my OD-820 and I got to use the klon. The 820 was reasonably close in the clean boost, but the TS9 circuitry is the last thing I want in an overdrive. The fellow I got it from, had it in the chain every time he recorded a guitar. I met him when we both worked at Universal Music Group.
 
I'll play around with the diode OD but I have no idea what  it's based on. I'll see if adds that "pixie dust"...
 
in fact, when John is over today, I'll have him track a bit of lead and see if the MOD "sweetness" will translate to the track, or if the Diode OD is fine. OR we may use no dirt stomp at all. We have little need for anything but the amps to get our crunch for recording.
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 11:15:48 (permalink)
Just thought I'd share this...

https://youtu.be/xsAy654GPMw


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 11:15:56 (permalink)
Charlyg,
 
Have you experimented at all with using your hardware pedal in conjunction with A4?  If you have a particular boost that you love, maybe putting it in front of your interface will work and give you the results you are looking for.
 
I find that everything in Ampitube (or any Sim) is modeled after real gear, but may not sound and react exactly like the real thing.  The trick is mixing and matching the components to get the sound that's in your head, regardless of what the model says that it is supposed to be.   

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 11:24:09 (permalink)
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Just thought I'd share this...

https://youtu.be/xsAy654GPMw




I think a great player can make just about anything he plays, sound awesome.  This is from years ago, with A3.
 
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 11:38:30 (permalink)
The player is definitely 75% of the package, that's for sure...

In my case...10%....


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 11:48:01 (permalink)
I sent a Support Ticket to IK Pete....

Nothing...and it's been 24 hrs...


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 11:57:18 (permalink)
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I sent a Support Ticket to IK Pete....

Nothing...and it's been 24 hrs...


I don't see a PM here, and I am not in Support so I wouldn't get your ticket directly.  What is your ticket number?
 
Edit - they found your ticket from 4PM yesterday and they replied this morning.  Please check your inbox for the reply.  Thanks
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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 12:00:24 (permalink)
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Is there anything remotely resembling a klon(in its clean slight boost setting)? In real life, I have a Mythical Overdrive, which is as close as anything I've tried, and I did get an overnighter with a klon once. "He" borrowed my OD-820 and I got to use the klon. The 820 was reasonably close in the clean boost, but the TS9 circuitry is the last thing I want in an overdrive. The fellow I got it from, had it in the chain every time he recorded a guitar. I met him when we both worked at Universal Music Group.
 
I'll play around with the diode OD but I have no idea what  it's based on. I'll see if adds that "pixie dust"...
 
in fact, when John is over today, I'll have him track a bit of lead and see if the MOD "sweetness" will translate to the track, or if the Diode OD is fine. OR we may use no dirt stomp at all. We have little need for anything but the amps to get our crunch for recording.


 
Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus...er...Klon clone that is super fab and inexpensive.  It's from Electro Harmonix and it's called the "Soul Food"...$70 bucks or so...I encourage you to watch any of the many YouTube shootout videos between the two.
 
Oddly enough I am planning on putting an original Klon "horsey" Centaur up on Ebay soon (Serial # 152).  It's really crazy what they are selling for now.  I had another that I traded for a  brand new Reverend Buckshot several years back and I thought I made out like a bandit then.  But now they sometimes go for almost triple that deal.  I actually prefer the Soul Food.  Check it out.
 
 

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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 12:13:04 (permalink)
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I sent a Support Ticket to IK Pete....

Nothing...and it's been 24 hrs...


I don't see a PM here, and I am not in Support so I wouldn't get your ticket directly.  What is your ticket number?
 
Edit - they found your ticket from 4PM yesterday and they replied this morning.  Please check your inbox for the reply.  Thanks



Yep..no sooner then I posted this the reply came...


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Re: AmpliTube 4.... 2015/11/03 12:38:58 (permalink)
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Is there anything remotely resembling a klon(in its clean slight boost setting)? In real life, I have a Mythical Overdrive, which is as close as anything I've tried, and I did get an overnighter with a klon once. "He" borrowed my OD-820 and I got to use the klon. The 820 was reasonably close in the clean boost, but the TS9 circuitry is the last thing I want in an overdrive. The fellow I got it from, had it in the chain every time he recorded a guitar. I met him when we both worked at Universal Music Group.
 
I'll play around with the diode OD but I have no idea what  it's based on. I'll see if adds that "pixie dust"...
 
in fact, when John is over today, I'll have him track a bit of lead and see if the MOD "sweetness" will translate to the track, or if the Diode OD is fine. OR we may use no dirt stomp at all. We have little need for anything but the amps to get our crunch for recording.


Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus...er...Klon clone that is super fab and inexpensive.  It's from Electro Harmonix and it's called the "Soul Food"...$70 bucks or so...I encourage you to watch any of the many YouTube shootout videos between the two.
 
Oddly enough I am planning on putting an original Klon "horsey" Centaur up on Ebay soon (Serial # 152).  It's really crazy what they are selling for now.  I had another that I traded for a  brand new Reverend Buckshot several years back and I thought I made out like a bandit then.  But now they sometimes go for almost triple that deal.  I actually prefer the Soul Food.  Check it out.
 
 


I have the Soul Food with the JHS mod. It is good, but not as good as the MOD(for the pixie dust). To me.....

 
 
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