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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 12:39:27
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michaelhanson
Has it been determined how long the presale will last?
Until release, which is stated as October 2015.
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IK_Multimedia
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 12:42:42
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DeeringAmps
"I bought the A4 presale through the Customshop."
How'd you do that! It wasn't an option in my Custom Shop...
Like many others actually "buying" something from IK is a MESS!
How do I use "jam points" in the Custom Shop or "Gear Credits" in the web store?
I have a "ton" of IK stuff, but its ALWAYS a GD puzzle...
Where's OBI when you need em, eh?
T
Open Custom Shop, it should be prominently displayed (make sure you are in the AmpliTube section, there are links near the top for AmpliTube, T-RackS, and SampleTank sections of Custom Shop). Click on the graphic for AmpliTube 4 or go to Collections and you should see it there. If you do not, make sure you update to the latest version, but I don't believe that is necessary in this case.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 12:46:52
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So Nigel, before you drop using IK's stuff, just take a look at these plugins as they're totally worth jumping through the few hoops to get them.
Hi Mesh
Yes I know most of their stuff is top draw - probably all of it except Sampletank which is just OK I think. But I would have to jump a lot of hoops and if you take Tracks for instance, which I purchased I think over ten years ago, I don't / cant use it anymore and If I remember the upgrade path last time I looked was not a great deal financially - so to be honest, I'm reasonably (no very happy) with what I have and use at the moment, especially now TC have done the decent thing and given my Powercore setup an extension to its useful life!!
And I've been so busy of late with the album and charity stuff, that I don't think I have it in me to even crawl through a few hoops!!!!!!
But one should never say never, so who knows!!
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 13:03:35
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As if purchasing the upgrade to Amp4 wasn't enough I noticed that they have two Wampler pedals now as well. I love Wampler. Got the Pinnacle which is killer diller. Dern their hides.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 13:04:41
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Nigel, you should at least install the current versions of Amplitube CS and T-Racks CS (both are free)...open up Custom shop and click restore gear. All of your registered plugins should now show up with the new 64 bit versions.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 13:27:38
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yorolpal
As if purchasing the upgrade to Amp4 wasn't enough I noticed that they have two Wampler pedals now as well. I love Wampler. Got the Pinnacle which is killer diller. Dern their hides.
The exact reason I don't visit The CS very often.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 17:01:41
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Well, I had 42 credits and 75 Jam Points. Most of which seem to have been added as bonuses. Which sort of equates to an upgrade discount, anyway I have bought some extra credits while the extra deal is on and will preorder soon. I like the look of the new features, particularly the inserts and routing options.
But I totally agree that the marketing and purchasing options are far too complicated and confusing.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 18:22:51
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Nigel, you should at least install the current versions of Amplitube CS and T-Racks CS (both are free)...open up Custom shop and click restore gear. All of your registered plugins should now show up with the new 64 bit versions.
Clint
Thanks for this - I am assuming it doesn't wipe out any of my old stuff (mainly the Amplitube 2 plus an odd expansion and I have Ampeg SVX which I probably use the most and seems ok through Jbridge) As I said I don't use Tracks anyway, so sounds a no brainer for that.
Cheers
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 19:28:38
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Your old stuff should be fine. I like T-Racks. When you get the newer version you may find it's better than you remember. I don't know how many of the IK plugins you have, but T-Racks Custom shop comes with the EQ and Meters...and T-Racks 4 will be here soon. I bet before Christmas. I have Ampeg and Fender. Amplitube CS is better than the stand alone versions because you can use everything you own in the Amplitube CS shell...plus they will all be 64 bit.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 20:01:05
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I like AmpliTube and SampleTank but I loooooove T-RackS.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 22:02:26
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For some reason it all went smoooooth this time. I'm in! T
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/11 23:53:30
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clintmartin...and T-Racks 4 will be here soon. I bet before Christmas.
It already is. T-RackS 5 would be the next major version. :)
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 03:08:23
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Peter,
Thanks for your presence here and getting information to us about the new Amp 4 software. If Amp 4 is anywhere near Amp 2, excited to dive in (have Amp 3 as well).
I'm still confused about what is included. Can you clarify this.
My case is poster child simple black and white.
No problem about points and credits. Just straight cash.
No investment for anything through Custom Shop.
Either there is no information on included racks and stomps in Amp 4, or there are none.
I understand that CS purchases will migrate forward, but what is there bare bones if you dropped in with no history. Looks like loyal supporters are at the same level as complete newcomers.
Amp 3 had a generous assortment of stomps and rack effects included native. No mention of anything included in Amp 4.
Forgive my ignorance if I missed a link that shows all the included effects beyond the 5 new amps and the acoustic stomp.
John
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 03:45:18
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John...Peter said you can migrate/restore all A3 or other stuff into A4...see last page. I also take it to read that A4 doesn't come with the scores of things earlier versons did...of course it's cheaper! So in a sense they ARE taking care of prior customers while making it cheaper for newbees and they will have to get stuff from custom shop... Kinda like ala carte cable we've been wanting forever.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 04:13:25
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2015/09/12 10:24:22
Thanks Vastman,
Still a bit uncertain about the devil in the details. The price is definitely cheaper, but is the migration forward from Amp 3 meaning only for those units purchased in CS. Not the migration of all the native effects in Amp 3. Information is vague about this.
Cautious about purchasing a cheap shell potentially with no stomps and no rack effects until the credit card is opened to regain lost ground.
Best,
John
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 06:53:40
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Definitely everything in AT3 will migrate, whether part of the original AT3 package or add-ons. You'll just restore them in AT4 CS the way you did it in AT3 CS.
On a side note: I guess some people are sorry they didn't jump at the $70 AT3 sale IK was running last month. Kudos to IK for the way us current AT3 users are treated.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 10:33:05
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JohnKenn
Thanks Vastman,
Still a bit uncertain about the devil in the details. The price is definitely cheaper, but is the migration forward from Amp 3 meaning only for those units purchased in CS. Not the migration of all the native effects in Amp 3. Information is vague about this.
Cautious about purchasing a cheap shell potentially with no stomps and no rack effects until the credit card is opened to regain lost ground.
Best,
John
Couldn't have put it better myself. I'm passing on this one because I see things as you do, despite all the 'Peter says yes' comments. It's not that I disbelieve Peter, it's just that the whole thing is open to different subtle interpretations. For example, this is NOT an upgrade and IK have deliberately avoided using that word. I don't want A3 and A4 both existing on my system and having to remember which one I need to open up to access the things I want. I would have probably shelled out if it meant I would have ended up with Amplitube 3 exactly as I currently have it PLUS the new A4 amps, tuner, etc.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 11:28:23
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Skyline_UK
JohnKenn
Thanks Vastman,
Still a bit uncertain about the devil in the details. The price is definitely cheaper, but is the migration forward from Amp 3 meaning only for those units purchased in CS. Not the migration of all the native effects in Amp 3. Information is vague about this.
Cautious about purchasing a cheap shell potentially with no stomps and no rack effects until the credit card is opened to regain lost ground.
Best,
John
Couldn't have put it better myself.
I'm passing on this one because I see things as you do, despite all the 'Peter says yes' comments. It's not that I disbelieve Peter, it's just that the whole thing is open to different subtle interpretations. For example, this is NOT an upgrade and IK have deliberately avoided using that word. I don't want A3 and A4 both existing on my system and having to remember which one I need to open up to access the things I want. I would have probably shelled out if it meant I would have ended up with Amplitube 3 exactly as I currently have it PLUS the new A4 amps, tuner, etc.
That's exactly the kind of clarity we need from either IK or here in the forum from Peter.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 12:52:39
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So after deciding I would load up the free stuff as Clint suggested, then now reading the latest in the ongoing saga of what is and what is not in Amplitube 4, I'm just too confused to bother! I shall load the free Tracks thing and see what happens with that - I think then wait and see re the rest!!
Cheers
Nigel
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 13:23:36
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/09/12 13:40:54
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Skyline_UK
I'm passing on this one because I see things as you do, despite all the 'Peter says yes' comments. It's not that I disbelieve Peter, it's just that the whole thing is open to different subtle interpretations. For example, this is NOT an upgrade and IK have deliberately avoided using that word. I don't want A3 and A4 both existing on my system and having to remember which one I need to open up to access the things I want. I would have probably shelled out if it meant I would have ended up with Amplitube 3 exactly as I currently have it PLUS the new A4 amps, tuner, etc.
That's exactly the kind of clarity we need from either IK or here in the forum from Peter.
Having clear answers to these questions would be nice, but wouldn't it be better to be able to demo the thing so you can see for yourself whether it works as you expect? Buying anything without demoing it first is always risky. You never know for sure whether the product meets your needs without issues until you try it on your own system. A lot of customers requested this for the Mesa collection -- a demo before the intro price expired. IK was kind enough to oblige. Perhaps the same thing could be done with A4. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 16:08:31
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Guys,
Thanks for the info. Agree that the best case scenario would be to load A4 and have all and everything from A3 there, plus the new amps, cab management and the single stomp. A3 is a nice unit. Like Skyline said, it would be a drag having to bounce between two units to get everything.
Maybe the fine print is in A4 not being an upgrade but a separate software. Inexpensive to get in on the ground level, but some serious cash over time to get even the basics. Benefit as mentioned that you could just get what you want and not have many pedals that you never use. If this is the case, I can see the no brainer $99 quickly turning into a $300 what was my brain thinking.
Agree also we need clarification from IK as to what is and is not included, and what can and cannot be migrated from previous versions. If I can migrate all the stomps, racks and presets from A3, will dive in with gratitude and without question. Otherwise, waiting for a demo so see if it will actually be worth the investment over the long haul.
John
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:03:06
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So what I'm getting from this is if I buy A4, I'm going to miss out on a lot of stuff that was included in A3, correct? Which also means a lot of the presets used in Mesa package that required other external amps possibly won't come with A4 as well?
Yes, straight forward answers are kind of needed on these things.
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IK_Multimedia
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:19:33
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It isn't just me saying it. The AmpliTube 4 gear pages states what is included: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/amplitube4/index.php?pp=at4cs-gear It also states AmpliTube 4 can also be expanded with legacy gear from previous versions of AmpliTube via the Custom Shop. Owners of previous versions can restore all purchases and gear with the “restore my gear” feature in the Custom Shop. All told, there’s over 280 pieces of professional-grade gear now available for trial and purchase in the Custom Shop! The only thing that may not be clear is that the gear every user gets free with the free AmpliTube Custom Shop that is in your account is also there. That is covered by the "Restore My Gear" part quoted above, as you already have this gear if you have an IK account, but I've stated that since this is basically more free stuff you get in AmpliTube 4 at the end of the day that they add that to the page. Hope that helps.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:22:34
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IK_Multimedia
Skyline_UK
Vastman
Everything you've acquired is fully functional in A4...
Except for all the built-in gear in A3.
If you already have AT3, all of that gear will function in AmpliTube 4. From http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/amplitube4/index.php?pp=at4cs-gear -
As a standalone software and DAW plug-in, AmpliTube 4 comes with the gear listed. If you currently own a previous version of AmpliTube, you can use the Custom Shop feature to restore all of your gear from Custom Shop purchases and legacy gear.
quoted as is from page 3 of this thread
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:38:38
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Alright!! Explain to me in plain English what I would have to pay to get A4! I have 35 credits and 49 Jampoints. What would be the cash outlay for A4?
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:41:16
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Also could I just use my credits to get the Wampler Pinnacle or just can use for a percentage off the full price?
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:45:26
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Alright!! Explain to me in plain English what I would have to pay to get A4! I have 35 credits and 49 Jampoints. What would be the cash outlay for A4?
Oops, not only did I send half a message - bapu answered perfectly :) Go with that
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:45:33
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Sidroe, At minimum. Go to the IK Store. Buy 75 credits apply $22 jam points (max allowed is 30% of purchase price). Until the 16th you'll get 87 credits (once you log into the Custom Shop, they apply the bonus there). 87 + 35 = 122. You'll use 99 credits for A4. $53 outlay and A4 is yours. I was in exactly that same boat and that was what I did.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 17:48:24
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Alright!! Explain to me in plain English what I would have to pay to get A4! I have 35 credits and 49 Jampoints. What would be the cash outlay for A4?
Oops, not only did I send half a message - bapu answered perfectly :) Go with that
I only answered it correctly because that was what I did (exactly) otherwise I'd probably say the wrong thing.
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Re: AmpliTube 4....
2015/09/12 18:01:53
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Sidroe,
At minimum.
Go to the IK Store. Buy 75 credits apply $22 jam points (max allowed is 30% of purchase price).
Until the 16th you'll get 87 credits (once you log into the Custom Shop, they apply the bonus there). 87 + 35 = 122. You'll use 99 credits for A4. $53 outlay and A4 is yours.
Thanks for the explanation Ed...I needed simple guy instructions.
post edited by michaelhanson - 2015/09/12 18:27:24
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