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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/12 18:50:59 (permalink)
Not sure if this is already addressed elsewhere - if you save a screenset, with the multidock floating, and maximised (in my case on a second monitor, and containing just the console view), on reloading the project, the multidock window isn't maximised, although it is in the correct place (ie on the second monitor).

CWBRN-3482

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post edited by James_S - 2010/12/14 18:29:50
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 01:32:46 (permalink)
Reopening projects & Cloning prochannel/tube saturation fails to bring back correct settings.
To recreate example -
  1. Gain a clip over 0dbfs with clip automation gain.
  2. Activate PT/Tube saturation
  3. Set the tube saturation to type I & 18% drive (this = a 100% peak catching soft clip)
  4. Put the ProChannel in "POST" fader mode
  5. The gained up clip should now be limited/soft clipped by the tube saturation. (won't exceed 0dbfs)
  6. Clone that track & the setting wont transfer (but indicate that they do). you will notice that the clip will be clipping & not stopped by the tube saturation.


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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 01:44:44 (permalink)
Track strip ProChannel mouse over text states incorrect/illogical status.

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 01:46:49 (permalink)
pathos


Not so much of a bug but a suggestion-

When opening ProCh in a narrow strip then closing, the strip should revert back to narrow, not normal size.


Report it, I did That way it can for certain be listed
post edited by chrisharbin - 2010/12/13 01:48:22

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 09:18:29 (permalink)
Quick groups for console view gone/not functioning? (Ctrl Select) Can no longer adjust multiple functions easily on the fly via console view.





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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 09:46:07 (permalink)
It's still there. Click and drag your mouse over the track numbers in the Console view to select the tracks. Then hold Ctrl while adjusting track parameters to use Quick Groups on the selected tracks.

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 09:50:46 (permalink)
Ahh thats a good partial work around. Figure out a way to select non adjacent tracks? say 1+2 / 5+6?

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 09:52:42 (permalink)
You can drag across multiple tracks in the CV to create a quick group and then hold down the CTRL key while adjusting a parameter, but currently it appears that it limits you to grouping only adjacent tracks (or all tracks if you CTRL+adjust on a non-selected track) since CTRL+select doesn't work and you can't rearrange tracks in the CV (unless I'm missing something).

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EDIT: A hack workaround is to select non-adjacent tracks in Track View and then open Console View.
post edited by dwcaldwell - 2010/12/13 10:02:55
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 12:54:55 (permalink)
Is anyone having issues with the SONARPDR.EXE process not closing after exiting Sonar? This seems to be fairly random in my case. I'm not exactly sure what is causing it but it may be related to opening projects not created in X1.

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 13:41:18 (permalink)
Sidechaining still not supported in x64 versions, despite this being brought to Cake's attention on Sonar 8.0



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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/13 15:56:53 (permalink)
* CWBRN-3496 has been closed. Need to report one bug in one report not overall feedback...
Open letter:

Automation Bugs, writing and copy All kinds of Automation bugs?

Automation doesn't work as it should and copy automation doesn't work either at all? "only BUS Automation are highlighted can't copy clip or track automation?
I don't know were to start just please Cakewalk check SONAR X1 and try de-bug all kinds of Automation problems.. The new tools doesn't snapp to GRID either sometimes. The new TOOL SNAP doesnt follow manual writing AUTOMATION corecctly.
Audio-track "clip automation" like PAN and GAIN work.
I will need more time checking this out. I will make a new specific report later.

Now you know!

Best Regards
Freddie
post edited by Freddie H - 2010/12/14 08:33:36


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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 04:37:37 (permalink)
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 08:05:37 (permalink)
Sidechaining still not supported in x64 versions, despite this being brought to Cake's attention on Sonar 8.0

 
Hi Paul,
Can you clarify please? Sidechaining definitely works in X64. Are there special cases or plugins that it is not working for you? FWIW we have some fixes for sidechaining with mono tracks coming up in X1A. This addresses sidechain compatibility with many plugins.
 
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 09:56:04 (permalink)
Instrument track Visibility in Console-View. BUG!
CWBRN-3510



1. Insert 2 Midi tracks at "Track View"
2. Insert a Dim Pro as a Instrument Track from example the Browser
3. Go to Console View.
4. Go to Top Left "Strips"
5. Select to hide "MIDI"
6. Result all "MIDI"-tracks and the Instrument track get HIDE.
7. Un-hide "MIDI" in "Strips" in Console-view again.
8. All Tracks get back in Console View again.
9. Select "Strips" again in Console view.
10. Select hide "Instruments"
11. Only the Dim Pro get "hide", = correct behavior.
12. Un-hide Dim Pro again
13. Press "H" on Console View to open "Track Manager".
14. As you can see---> All "Instrument Tracks" are recognize as MIDI Tracks. That's the main problem.
Make "Instrument Tracks" get a new ICON and recognize as "Instrument Tracks" instead. This BUG has been like this since 8.5.


Please fix this ASAP!



By the way, this many very simple bugs?
I'm amazed that noone at your BETA Test-team at Cakewalk havn't found this simple bugs?
Why can't you send out your new programs to people that can qualify BETA Testing your products? There are Users like me self that do qualify and know all about SONAR problems and work with SONAR on a daily basis?


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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 11:30:21 (permalink)
Ctrl Solo on bus pane Crash. Can you guys confirm this bug for me? Happens on two of my systems.

Download & open this project file
  • Right click "save as" - CtrlSoloCrash.cwp
  • Say cancel/no/ok to the "missing audio, folders, plugins, blah blah"
  • Try to press Ctrl & the Solo buttons a couple of times in the bus pane. Crashes every time for myself.

post edited by rhythminmind - 2010/12/14 11:38:36

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 11:49:11 (permalink)
Audiosnaps do not works. No way to quantize audio. 
I really enjoy the new gui ! :)
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 12:47:23 (permalink)
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Ctrl Solo on bus pane Crash. Can you guys confirm this bug for me? Happens on two of my systems.

Download & open this project file
  • Right click "save as" - CtrlSoloCrash.cwp
  • Say cancel/no/ok to the "missing audio, folders, plugins, blah blah"
  • Try to press Ctrl & the Solo buttons a couple of times in the bus pane. Crashes every time for myself.


No! CTRL + SOLO...and also tried Shift+ SOLO All works...It works here!
Both in track view, Console view on Tracks and Busses...
 
Windows 7 x64bit SONAR X1 x64
 
 
 
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 12:47:39 (permalink)
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Ctrl Solo on bus pane Crash. Can you guys confirm this bug for me? Happens on two of my systems.

Download & open this project file
  • Right click "save as" - CtrlSoloCrash.cwp
  • Say cancel/no/ok to the "missing audio, folders, plugins, blah blah"
  • Try to press Ctrl & the Solo buttons a couple of times in the bus pane. Crashes every time for myself.


No! CTRL + SOLO...and also tried Shift+ SOLO All works...It works here!
Both in track view, Console view on Tracks and Busses...
 
Windows 7 x64bit SONAR X1 x64
 
 
 
Best Regards
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 12:47:41 (permalink)
I'm having some problems with 32 bit VSTi's in 64 bit version of X1.

Kubik: open 1 instance, no sound. Delete that instance, open Kubik again, will make sound. But double clicking on the name will not open the Kubik edit window (after closing it once).

Emu X3: cannot open edit window at all. Deleting X3 causes Sonar X1 to crash. (I thought i had a 64 bit version of Emu X3 installed, I'll check that out)

if there is an equivilant of Synth Rack, I haven't found it. Also, I may try installing the 32 bit version of X1.
post edited by ross g2 - 2010/12/14 12:49:27
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 12:49:37 (permalink)
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I'm having some problems with 32 bit VSTi's.

Kubik: open 1 instance, no sound. Delete that instance, open Kubik again, will make sound. But double clicking on the name will not open the Kubik edit window (after closing it once).

Emu X3: cannot open edit window at all. Deleting X3 causes Sonar X1 to crash. (I thought i had a 64 bit version of Emu X3 installed, I'll check that out)

if there is an equivilant of Synth Rack, i haven't found it.


Yes. You find it in the New Browser! Keycommand "B"
 
 
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 13:06:52 (permalink)
thanks Freddie...

one pretty irritating thing: X1 sometimes, arbitrarily will not open/launch until i reboot my PC...no idea why...
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 13:08:49 (permalink)
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Hi Paul,
Can you clarify please? Sidechaining definitely works in X64. Are there special cases or plugins that it is not working for you? FWIW we have some fixes for sidechaining with mono tracks coming up in X1A. This addresses sidechain compatibility with many plugins.
 
Noel

Hi Noel
Specifically, the Softube FET compressor, Valley People Dynamite, PSP Mixpressor 2 and any other third party x86 VST compressor in my collection running through Bitbridge. I'm also having difficulty getting bounced tracks to null with live ones. Even at 32 samples latency. It's even more apparent if there's a ProChanel process in the loop.
 
Also, the multi-processing support is way off. I'm running a test project on my new DAW. Only three tracks in use, no verb, latency at 32 samples. One processor channel is going wild and peaking in the red, while the other 15 are lazing around chatting about the time of day. Switching off the multiprocessing and letting W7 handle it shows the Sonar Performance bar at 50%, while the true performance according to Task Manager is less than 5%. This is a brand new DAW build, a super fast monster capable of big projects and full HD video editing (spec is in the sig), so I expect to see much better performance than this. 


And can I have the E envelope tool back please? Selection of envelopes is absolutely impossible now, especially with this lo contrast colour scheme. I've got two orphaned envelopes on a track in this test project that I can barely see and cannot select at all. 

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 13:25:48 (permalink)

No! CTRL + SOLO...and also tried Shift+ SOLO All works...It works here!
Both in track view, Console view on Tracks and Busses...
 

Thanks for checking it out. Happens repeatably on the 4 systems I've checked. All running win 7 64 + X1 32bit. Did you try it with my session file?

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 14:10:36 (permalink)
Has anyone reported this behavior (presumably a bug):  

 If I have several layers in a track and I lasso some layers I'd like to delete: 
1.  lasso layers to delete (they're highlighted as usual) 
2.  a shadow (not highlighted as above) casts over the other layers to the edge of the layer earliest in the timeline.   
3.  hit delete.  the layers I'd like to delete are gone and the layers that were shadowed are deleted up to the shadow boundary described above.   I've tried this with smart tool on and off and in different projects.


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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 14:49:11 (permalink)
Paul Russell

And can I have the E envelope tool back please? Selection of envelopes is absolutely impossible now, especially with this lo contrast colour scheme. I've got two orphaned envelopes on a track in this test project that I can barely see and cannot select at all. 

Using the Smart tool, Shift+click on the envelope to edit it.

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 14:59:02 (permalink)
When a program crashes, it's an obvious bug. The trouble to reporting bugs is when trying to attempt something one is used to doing with the program that just no longer "works", one isn't sure it's the program or user error.

For instance, theres a TON of minor things I've encountered that I just don't know if it's me or the program that's doing things wrong ... like ... I can get the tool bar to show the big M for the mute tool ... it's just that when I click on it, the mute tool just doesn't appear. The scissor tool shows up fine ... but not the mute.

Some times, I'll be looking at the Pro Channel (in this instance the Master bus), and information will appear in the EQ, other times ... upon return ... nothing is there. On the master bus, the VU meter is dark ... but on other channels it's lit. Seems to work, but I've not figured what it's supposed to be doing so ... is it a bug? I've no clue. Is information supposed to appear and disappear dependent upon how things were clicked? I don't know.

I set the snap properties in the preferences window to a note value of 1/32 ... but when I attempt to move the line in the main window, it only snaps to whole notes. I believe this is wrong, but since the whole approach to snap is new, I'm left to wonder whether it's a bug or I'm simply not doing it right in 'the new way'. I do know that it's not going to 1/32 values ... I just don't know why not.

I'm working on a project where in 8.5 PE, I'd automated the volume of a track throughout the mix. In X1, it plays back reading the automation correctly, but when I expand the window (I've not yet figured out how to go to full window view yet -- so I just pull the bottom down as far as possible) ... anyways -- no graphical line showing the automation. Is it me or the program? Um ... still don't know ... I've not found it yet, though.

... and this is just a small sampling of the minor work flow annoyances encountered with the new graphical layout.

But I'm reticent to report bugs until I'm sure they're actual bugs. In the meanwhile, I just wish things would have worked as intuitively as they used to.

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 15:21:13 (permalink)
James_S


Not sure if this is already addressed elsewhere - if you save a screenset, with the multidock floating, and maximised (in my case on a second monitor, and containing just the console view), on reloading the project, the multidock window isn't maximised, although it is in the correct place (ie on the second monitor).

Cheers
James


I see this issue when minimizing Sonar then restoring. The Console (whether in multidock or floating) is not maximized on the separate monitor after restoring.

CWBRN-3399, MultiDock does not restore maximized after Sonar X1 is minimized

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 15:22:51 (permalink)
... btw ... the case of the missing envelopes has been solved. :)

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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 15:35:22 (permalink)

I'll be looking at the Pro Channel (in this instance the Master bus), and information will appear in the EQ, other times ... upon return ... nothing is there. On the master bus, the VU meter is dark ... but on other channels it's lit. Seems to work, but I've not figured what it's supposed to be doing so ... is it a bug?

 
I think the EQ not always showing the correct graphical display is an acknowledged GUI bug. What you're seeing with the Prochannel compressor is normal, though. It comes in two flavors: PC76 for Tracks and PC4K for buses. The PC4K meter face is black. There is also a GUI bug that the compressor meters will nto show activity when the tranposrt isn;t running in X1 x64.
 
The ProChannel GUI bugs are expected to be fixed in the X1a patch to be released before Xmas.
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Re:BUGS: UPDATE Waveform preview on bus disapearing and found repeatable crash! 2010/12/14 15:55:24 (permalink)
Automating Alias Factor and playing the automation crashes SONAR immediately. Everytime.

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