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I"ve put thios in a fw threads but no fo;;ow up and as nothing works I don't know how to reproduce the problem.
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Install X1 x64 works OK except for known bugs and fristration of new GUI
Install X1a Using the same audio settings as the 5 applications above can't engage audio engine or transport. No play, no record NOTHING. No problem manipulating screen, adding plugins, cutting editing audio, MIDI, PRV, seems like I can do anything but make it play. I've changed drivers latency and every possible thing; nothing makes it work.
I go back to any of the 32 or 64 bit version of 8 or 8.5 or Audition, SF10, Audacity, Adobe Soundbooth, Premiere CS5 doesn't matter what, they all work. Go back to X1a no work. I'm absolutely stumped.
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mudgel
I"ve put thios in a fw threads but no fo;;ow up and as nothing works I don't know how to reproduce the problem.
WIN 7 Home Premium laptop 8 GIG 2 X 500 GIG 7200 RPM SATA HDD
S8.3.1 PE 32 & 64 bit Working OK
S7.5.3 PE 32 & 64 Bit Wotking OK
Install X1 x64 works OK except for known bugs and fristration of new GUI
Install X1a Using the same audio settings as the 5 applications above can't engage audio engine or transport. No play, no record NOTHING. No problem manipulating screen, adding plugins, cutting editing audio, MIDI, PRV, seems like I can do anything but make it play. I've changed drivers latency and every possible thing; nothing makes it work.
I go back to any of the 32 or 64 bit version of 8 or 8.5 or Audition, SF10, Audacity, Adobe Soundbooth, Premiere CS5 doesn't matter what, they all work. Go back to X1a no work. I'm absolutely stumped.
You could try the hotfix patch -- if you follow the directions, you can easily roll back if it doesn't solve anything. I tried it, btw, but it didn't change a thing for me so I rolled back.
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I just did and now it runs fine using MME drivers.
the weird thing is I don't have any ASIO drivers on this laptop not ASIO4ALL either.
So while its working in a sort of way. it isn't either,
Pre this hotfix - If I try to use the WDM drivers I get caught in an endless loop of This driver is not available, Wants to do a Wave Profile, say OK yet none of the drivers are available. If i click""use any way" the drivers "Appear" availabel but no audio engine or transport.
all the best fro your problem Billy any hints from the C++ redistributable.
I've got a bit more testing to do on this hotfix to see what I can do with the WDM drivers.
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One more reprofile and restart SONAR and eveything's back to normal. ie working as in X1
Man I've never seen anything like this. At least it gives me some hope that things may get worked out. What this has to do with ASIO I don't know.
TO make sure I wasn't going crazy I put the original X1a sonarpdr.exe back (Pre hotfix) and as before nothing makes the audio engine or transport work. reinstall the hotfix, reprofile and start SONAR again and it all works fine. Now I can see what's going n with this X1 beastie without some of the intial bugs.
I'll document all this and send on to Cakewalk. Keep us posted how you're going. Is there anything that I can trouble shoot for you?
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Today the Draw tool stopped working after an hour or so. I couldn't draw new midi notes. Exiting and re-opening the project fixed it. First time that ever happened and I cannot get it to repeat.
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In a project that was created in 8.5.3 I had two reference tracks that I archived. Also, the output of the tracks were set to none. In X1 I wanted to re-rout those tracks to a new buss I created. I un-archived them and tried to rout them to the new buss. It would not let me change the output. The outputs are still set to none after I tried to change them. After exiting and re-opening the project it worked as expected.
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today I was trying to delete a volume envelope from a track. After lassoing all the nodes I pressed delete. All but one node was deleted. I tried to delete that node manually and Sonar went white and I had to kill it from the task manager. That happened twice before I found a work around.
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Here's a new one for me! 1. The TV +/- tick box buttons on my track folders don't show up correctly. Some are showing "-" when I boot my normal template, even though the track folder is clearly collapsed. 2. When I click it the "-" turns to a plus and it still collapsed (which is good), but when I click it again, it reflects a "-" and is expanded, which is correct (also good). 3. BUT! As soon as I click ANY of those track folders +/- button the right half of my Pro Channel goes blank  . 4. I can get it back by clicking the channel in CV, but, as soon as I click another +/- button in TV, off she goes again. 5. That truly sucks........ and it's a double-whammy!!!!!!!! Sorry if this a copy of someone else's bug, but who has time to read through all of the posts - I don't...
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Found the blank PC problem, and it turns out it is me. I had some MIDI tracks hidden so the PRO Channel does not show the right side of those tracks in the inspector when I select a track folder with hidden MIDI. Still does not change the problem with the +/- buttons, though.
post edited by metal_bassist - 2010/12/26 09:07:45
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CWBRN-3673
Insert any soft synth, go to VST drop-down menu and choose Plug-in properties. Click OK and Sonar minimizes itself.
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CWBRN-3676 Can't reorder tabs in Multidock
Help file & manual say that the tabs in Multidock can be reordered by dragging the tab & releasing.
Dragging the tabs does not move them.
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CWBRN-3663
Sonar X1a will not rewire to Propellerhead's Record, it opens Reason instead.
I think I may pretend I never "upgraded" to X1 and just stick with 8.5 for a bit as this one has killed the way I produce my tracks.
Grum.
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Ok sonar X1 has it's problems, but of you are trying to rewire to record, just stop...
that is just overkill weird- no really, record in record- COME ON SON!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8USgj3ZLZ8
Q. Why did I start using Sonar? A. Because Reason didn't record audio so I needed a DAW. Q. Why did I buy Record? A. To record audio, use the lovely mixer, and to wrap up Reason in a better interface. Q. Why do I still use Sonar? A. Because it hosts VSTs and Record doesn't. Q. Should Sonar X1 be capable of rewiring to Record (like it does on the earlier versions) so that I can do what I want to do in real time? A. Off course it should, that's what rewire is designed to do. This thread is to show up what is broken/buggy in Sonar X1. Rewire has been broken by the X1a patch. You show a level of ignorance with that video and comments that I can only hope will embarrass you when you've grown up.
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The reason I discovered that rewire is broken was because I wanted to compare the Record mixer (and master compressor) with the new Prochannel stuff. That has nothing to do with where I record tracks but all to do with what sounds best for me to use. http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2174585
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is it just the props rewire stuff broken? do other apps still rewire ok? there have previously been issues with the rewire DLL version not working with sonar? is this another well known & reported bug not fixed?
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is it just the props rewire stuff broken? do other apps still rewire ok? there have previously been issues with the rewire DLL version not working with sonar? is this another well known & reported bug not fixed?
Reason and Record are the only things on my rewire list so I can't answer. I do know it all worked before the 1a patch. Anyways, I'm not allowed to rewire anymore as I've incurred the wrath of a forum member (who obviously knows it all) and so I've uninstalled all my Sonar products and all of my VSTs. My bad for trying to use the products I've paid for in the way they are designed to do. I'll just use Record now. Grum.
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yes what were you thinking?!? (grab a demo of live or something that rewires to test...)
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'File open' folder settings not consistent. Opening a new project after using midi files the open file directory was redirected to 'Midi Library/ Drums'.
The chosen properties folder is listed in pref/ folder options. Clicking 'Apply' in Prefs reset back to the correct one.
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Bugs in operation audio, and audio editing. 1. Bugs "Export Audio". 2. Bugs "Convert to stereo/mono". 3. Bugs "Bounce to clips", and "Bounce to tracks". 4. Bugs "Freeze tracks" http://img228.imageshack.us/i/4oi.mp4/ Windows 7 Pro (x64) Sonar X1 Pro (x32/x64) RME HDSP Intel i7
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if i import several clips to a track or record a clip and edit into smaller clips: moving clips around in a track causes other clips in the same track to either vanish or the lengths change (ie shorten)...
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btw: i looked if anyone had posted the same problem as the one reported above, didn't see any...am i the only one?
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I saw some other messages relating to this, and I know not everyone is having the issue, but for me, Kontakt 4 (not the beta, the latest stable release) was causing many crashes while it was loaded. Once I mixed down the audio from it, rather than using it as a running synth, my crashes went to nearly zero. Replicated this behavior in several projects, both from 8.5 and fresh.
As an aside, what SONAR could really use is a built-in bug reporter like Firefox/Opera/Chrome have. When SONAR crashes, a bug report should be sent to the bug tracking system right away. That would help the Bakers quite a bit.
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Sonar X1 Producer 64:
1. Sonar "looses" MIDI Clock sync settings (unchecks by itself MIDI OUT ports I wanna send MIDI Clock to)
2. There's not way to make EXTERAL INSTRUMENT track (i.e. as in Ableton) - similar to simple "softsynth" track. T SHOULD BE LIKE THIS: in arangement view you have MIDI, but in console view you mix AUDIO.
3. In CONSOLE - I don't want MIDI tracks (for external soundmodules) to be visible. OK, there is an option. But why after setting them unvisible in "mixer", they're still in "counting"? I don't want to "mix" them anymore!
Ie: want to set unvisible track 3 (midi for synth). But after doing that, I still have 1, 2 (visible audio) 3 (invisible, but with access from my Mackie MCU!!!!) 456...
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Ie: want to set unvisible track 3 (midi for synth). But after doing that, I still have 1, 2 (visible audio) 3 (invisible, but with access from my Mackie MCU!!!!) 456...
In the "track manager" I have the "keep console and track view in sync" checked and in the Preferences->MIDI->Control Surfaces I have track view selected in the "Control tracks visible in..." section. That way hidden tracks will no longer show in the MCU.
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Thanks one more tme - I will check it today. Hope it will help.
I want to have all tracks (MIDI, audio and softsynth) visible in track view, but chose tracks visible and "editable" in console view - without access to "invisible" MIDI tracks - and with proper counting. What is invsible - it doesn't "counts"/exist in mixer.
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I was adding a little humor and I do see what you want to do. I hope your problem gets fixed. I'm not embarrassed really because I was taking a piss as they say in England. That being said, I see what you are trying to do. Pretty complex to wire 2 DAWS together. It should work you're right. Just so complex. I try to make things simple as possible without sacrificing options. That being said, you're right it should work! Sorry to come off ignorant. I think I had some drinks that day and was having too much forum fun!
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Ok sonar X1 has it's problems, but of you are trying to rewire to record, just stop...
that is just overkill weird- no really, record in record- COME ON SON!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8USgj3ZLZ8
Q. Why did I start using Sonar?
A. Because Reason didn't record audio so I needed a DAW.
Q. Why did I buy Record?
A. To record audio, use the lovely mixer, and to wrap up Reason in a better interface.
Q. Why do I still use Sonar?
A. Because it hosts VSTs and Record doesn't.
Q. Should Sonar X1 be capable of rewiring to Record (like it does on the earlier versions) so that I can do what I want to do in real time?
A. Off course it should, that's what rewire is designed to do.
This thread is to show up what is broken/buggy in Sonar X1. Rewire has been broken by the X1a patch.
You show a level of ignorance with that video and comments that I can only hope will embarrass you when you've grown up.
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cakewalk Modfilter playback automation crashes instantly the same way Alias Factor does.
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new project,..
insert GuitarRig4 to an audio track..
set interleave to stereo..
save/close/open sonar..
interleave is set to mono again..
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I was adding a little humor and I do see what you want to do.
I hope your problem gets fixed.
I'm not embarrassed really because I was taking a piss as they say in England.
That being said, I see what you are trying to do. Pretty complex to wire 2 DAWS together.
It should work you're right. Just so complex.
I try to make things simple as possible without sacrificing options.
That being said, you're right it should work!
Sorry to come off ignorant. I think I had some drinks that day and was having too much forum fun!
Thanks for the apology. I don't like unnecessary forum fights so I wasn't happy with how this was going. We all work in different ways and I mainly work in Record but I need Sonar as I explained above. The rewire problem is actually worse than I thought - I added Reaper to the rewire list to see what happens and the eventual result was the rewire.dll file disappeared from my C drive! To sum up: I need Sonar for Audiosnap for my lousy timing and rewire as I work mainly in Record but need Sonar for some things that Record can't do. Both Rewire and Audiosnap are broken so perhaps you can see why I took the piss take so badly. I'm calm now though . Grum. P.S. Doesn't anyone else rewire as I'm not seeing many posts that confirm there is a problem with having more than one rewire program in the list?
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