bapu
I've sussed out what the BIG/HUGE announcement is.

Prove it!

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
If it works out the way we plan it, the user could add a non core feature and it would have a trial period. When the trial period ends the feature will stop working unless you buy it.

I like "Try before you Buy". Cakewalk sometimes add features that are indespensible and others that don't work for my needs. This is a great concept! Only buy what you like!
 
Walt

This sounds familiar ... where have I seen model this before?
 
IKM CS stuff works like this.  What else?

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

orhanproject
Sonar core for free but rest is in-app purchase :)
When you mouse over hover over tools in sonar, you get a "buy" text instead of tooltip :)
This is the future of softwares I tell you, you will see.. :)

If I look back at the past 18 months, I'd say 95% of the stuff we did was core development. We sell add-ons, instruments, and FX separately today.

It would be sad to potentially see things like Drum Replacer or Vocal Sync no longer considered to be core development, especially since they're integrated directly into SONAR and not standalone plugins or instruments like CA-2A, Rapture Pro, etc. However, if the price is right - which has already been alluded to and seems likely - then it's not a big loss.  Also, I'd assume that, like now, some features may be considered core for Platinum users but not Artist users, so depending on what a user is currently used to receiving, perhaps there won't be much of a difference.
 
Of course it's pointless to go around in circles and make points based purely on conjecture, but hey, we've gotta find some way to pass the time until we have concrete answers on June 1. We surely don't wanna be wasting time actually making music with our existing setup, right?! :)
 
Thanks to Noel and others for clarifying things and helping us understand what to expect, even though they made it clear that everything will be spelled out in June. We're a restless bunch and it's a good thing CW is patiently addressing our needy sensibilities. :)

streckfus
It would be sad to potentially see things like Drum Replacer or Vocal Sync no longer considered to be core development, especially since they're integrated directly into SONAR

Ummmmmm. Drum replacer and vocal sync are stand alone installers. They "integrate" into SONAR just like Melodyne (i.e. via ARA IIRC).
 

no email here.. i can go to the My Account page and see my history and says i'm subscribed, but never have gotten emails. when i go to the Store to check out the offer it tells me to log in for specifics, but there is no place to log in on the page. i'm guessing others are having the same problem?
 
 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

daryl1968
I was wondering, is 'lifetime' pricing based on the age of the purchaser?
Will we need to complete a medical to receive our price?

Yes to qualify you have to prove you don't have any terminal illness :)

I guess that is a typo, it should be spelled as "do have a terminal illness". Since Cakewalk license is not transferable, each dead lifetime customers is one not paying but demanding user less
 
Sorry if my humor it too black, but with "lifetime" and Cakewalk license, it can be interpreted as a user lifetime, not the product lifetime...

I haven't gotten this email either.  

streckfus

bapu

streckfus
It would be sad to potentially see things like Drum Replacer or Vocal Sync no longer considered to be core development, especially since they're integrated directly into SONAR

Ummmmmm. Drum replacer and vocal sync are stand alone installers. They "integrate" into SONAR just like Melodyne (i.e. via ARA IIRC).
 

Yeah, that's what I was driving at. Features that integrate directly with SONAR, not products that can be purchased separately and used in other DAWs, like the CA-2A VST, Z3ta, etc. I suppose they're more inline with the Pro Channel add-ons...purchased separately but still only usable within SONAR.
 
My point was that since these were included as part of the rolling updates with our existing subscription model, it would be a bummer if similar features like this were no longer going to be wrapped into the regular updates and would instead be offered as a separate purchase. Again, I do understand what Noel was getting at when he said that some features that required a ton of development time may be available separately and not just automatically wrapped into the updates. My point is that I'm sure both of these features (and many more that were included in our rolling updates) took a lot of effort on their part and we got them as part of our membership package, and that we may no longer see that same type of inclusion moving forward. But hey, if the price is right, I'm not opposed to buying another plugin/feature/etc. because as my checking account shows, I have no problem doing that already. :)
 
It is reassuring to see Noel say that 95% of what we received over the past 18 months would be considered core development, though. If changes are in order, it doesn't look like they'll stray too far from the norm in regards to included goodies.

That is why this lifetime member offer is is optional.
 
You can pay $149 (or $99 depending on a deal to be had) a year to guarantee modules like that are yours or go lifetime and decide when something is available that you need or want.
 
Seems like a simple set of options is available.
 

To the bakers:
 
I hope that with your new sale model you will still offer the current options to buy/update Sonar Platinum outright with all "core" updates AND with non-core products such as Addictive Drums 2, Rapture, Z3ta+, Dimension Pro, etc. I know I'm probably not a typical user of Sonar since I use many other DAWS (Reaper, Cubase, StudioOne, Tracktion, etc) but one of the main reason I bought Sonar (X3 Studio, then Producer and then Platinum) was because many of its instruments/FXs are also available in other DAWS. i.e. AD2 is the full version and can be used in any DAW. For me, this made Sonar VERY attractive to acquire. For example, when I bought the X3 Studio upgrade to Producer, it was just a bit more expensive than buying AD separately, so it was a no-brainer. Same with the upgrade to Platinum (AD2 with 3 packs included). Had Sonar "x" just included the "core features" I probably never would have bought it. I just LOVE the fact that, for example, I can use TTS-1, biFilter2, PX-64, etc, in my other DAWs
 
Of course I understand that because of license fees, you possibly can't do this for all the "non-in-house"/non-core instruments/FXs you include (i.e. the TH3 version you include only works in Sonar). But even in those cases, you often offer substantial discounts to Sonar Platinum users to buy the full "multi-daw-compatible" version. All these factors make buying Sonar a really good investment. Actually I think that from the onset, CakeWalk missed an opportunity with their promotion of Sonar. They should have put more emphasis on the fact that so many of their plugins also works in other DAWs. This "value plus" characteristic is almost exclusive to Sonar. Very few other DAWs allows their plugins to be used in other DAWs. IMO, it's a very powerful advantage that Sonar has over competing DAWs.
 
Lets compare this for example with StudioOne Pro3: It also comes with many "in-house" instruments/FXs but they are ALL exclusive to SOP3 and this makes me want to avoid them as much as possible since it then forces me to use SOP3 from beginning to end (projects done in SOP3 becomes almost impossible to "migrate" to other DAWs) I know it's probably exactly why Presonus does this, they want you to be captive to their "eco-system" but in the end it just turns people off. Pro-tools also suffer from this "ego-system" mania. (see what I did? )
 
BTW, I understand that in an ideal "CakeWalk world", people would only use Sonar as their DAW, but in today's fast evolving musical business, maximum flexibility/adaptability is a plus, not a hindrance. (again check Avid/Pro-tools market share if you don't believe me)
 
Anyway, I just wanted you to know that even within the current sale model (core features + non-core features, with some of them available in other DAWs) Sonar was/is a very good deal.  So I don't mind if you find more ways for people to buy Sonar, but please don't exclude the current options. More choice is good Thanks.
 
Chuck

chuckywalk
To the bakers:
 
I hope that with your new sale model you will still offer the current options to buy/update Sonar Platinum outright with all "core" updates AND with non-core products such as Addictive Drums 2, Rapture, Z3ta+, Dimension Pro, etc. Chuck

CW has stated that going lifetime is optional and that the current model offered will still be available.

Still no emails here. Can you please fix it?

Hey Joey!
Got the announcement email, but no lifetime email. Any assistance would be appreciated.
 
Thanks!

jpetersen
Only half in jest:
What am I going to threaten the Bakers with in my rants if I take the Life option?

Well, given that the only way to cancel your subscription will be to terminate your life, you will need to threaten them with a gun to your head