Appears this may be the last post I will ever make here as Cakewalk are now asking for me for my serial number to prove who I am - sorry Cake please let me politely refuse, I will 100% state however that I am fully licensed - don't worry about that, for I am far too worried about viruses and Trojans with hacks and unofficial patches, buying software is 100% the right thing to do anyway.
 
So I guess that's me done and banned, being anonymous is not allowed, and that's fine, no harm done it's all OK there are other things to do in my life. Have a good week all and bye.

They did mention that multiple user accounts are against policy here and my time here is limited. So I suspect they still think I'm a troll. The only defense I have is please have a look at my posts.
 
Regardless I'm not going out fighting/complaining and moaning about it because that will obviously validate their suspicions. It's their forums after all, they made a polite request, I have politely refused, and all is well whatever happens.

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Bye.

Supplying a serial number is a great way for us to rule out one being a troll or "supposed user" when they have no investment into the community. You have to supply that if you want the free Support that comes with your investment into the software. Not sure I understand the problem. It's quite painless, I assure you. Stick around!

My prefs was to allow it to Default to Off. However, after longer consideration, for what CW has in mind, that fails inherently. What's the point of developing something everybody has to turn on, many of whom probably won't prioritize it? It fails to do anything useful.

There's a better way of thinking about this:
1 Most companies who develop software are beginning to use Analytics to refine their processes and knowledge of their own customer base. It's the times, get with them. I hate saying that, because I don't like it any more than anyone else. But it's true. If you want low-cost, but POWERFUL software, it's what has to follow. You can't compete blindly in this business any longer.
 
2 Some companies prefer to be secretive about it. Eh, Microsoft? CW has let us know up front and why. That's honorable. It's ok to ask questions and ask for CW to keep your Privacy in diligent, secured, and careful hands. They have a responsibility.

3 The idea is in the numbers, more than what you're doing. CW has limited resources to spend every waking moment in DEVelopment (baking) and QC, which means, some things must be assumed working, since those areas of the software weren't touched in the last x-number of revisions. Beta testers are needed, and so are users who report issues. Believe me, they don't have the staff to pick apart what an individual is doing 24/7 on his DAW. I would hope/ask CW doesn't sell the numbers to outside 3rd-party vendors.

4 If you're a company who sells a product that does remotely what Sonar does at the same price, you're general-speaking a bunch of geniuses, or very savvy at illegal money-management (cooking the books). No company lasts very long cooking books, so the former MUST be the case. But at what cost? All the forum users who post issues, and lose faith in Sonar, meanwhile CW spends time wasted on some feature that needed updating for only 6 users. It would be wiser with knowledge of where people spend the bulk of their time and, as a result, where to put more efforts into fixing, refining, and improving for the masses, lessening time wasted on a troublesome feature to appease those 6 users. Sure, they are important 6 users, but their needs can wait ~ another truth in reality.

Sidenote: It's been stated many times by CW that issues reported without due-diligence in testing, recreating, or detail explanation are routinely (READ: routinely) disregarded because those issues simply can't be recreated or the scenario wasn't duly provided. This is a known problem with people in general. Including....me.

5 You can STILL disable it. If you're seriously paranoid and afraid to give up a tiny shard on bandwidth, of which is getting MUCH faster all the time, turn it off. Granted, Social sites probably transmit/receive more information on you.
 
6 What if you owned CW and wanted to become better and better by better knowing your better customers? Would that be a better way of doing this, or would you prefer just working with a select few on improvements? Mass or few? Mass or few? What's more valuable knowledge for wisdom?
 
Keep this in mind: If you are a user who refuses enable-ment the Sonar analytics, but jump on the forum to complain harshly about {insert feature} that is not working properly, other users may ask if you did and [politely] pick on you for not enabling it.
 
BUT YOU CAN STILL DISABLE IT!  ...if you just aren't sold on it.

It's a way of life. Fighting against it is fighting against our own culture. Want cheap? You have to give something back. Deal's a deal. But this deal is still working for you!
 
Trust Facebook? It's free...or is it? They collect so much about what you do, it isn't even remotely funny! Do you still use Facebook? CNN? Google? Twitter? Windows? Can you turn off all that reporting? Why aren't more companies up front about it?

OK///...great for the developers of...Now the consumers info is gold...Who pays for that info, to the consumer for the info, or kickbacks towards...as what is gleaned is used to make more sales,...So info is money...Pay for the info then would be prudently done..if more thought like capitalist....surely?...and yet now none have seen a dime paid for info taken,,,yet it is being taken, used for market gains, satistical profiting, and such development of new or better products..for marketing.....for sale..for moe money...eventually....Right?

And if my computer/computers are being mined for info...to install said info...I want to charge for that deployment of...is only fare!

I didn't read your entire reply, but, you are aware that you'll be able to simply turn it off...   right?    That leaves things as they are today.  
 

I have done this in windows 10..turned off all...and they turn back on, and add more...or..they now do nothing , because someone wants all info....regardless, it is now employed in the os...and the os says the same thing to the user...it is to make the products there in or on...better.....So how many does one need to put on?...Just the one is all...Get your info from MS...they got it no matter what you say or do...or the ones behind this madness...NSA or CIA..or FBI...or other agents of mayhem...to fuel whatever they want done...with that info robbed via.
 
So you read in...what is really going on with these trackers and keygens put into the products...is only to sell more products to the user....then that info is worth something...Don't give it away freely or let em have it freely...for it is not freely given the product it is put into.
 
Thus make the payment for....is fare!...that is capitalistic...but that is what game is being played, so play the game!

How about us users making a policy...if said software licence when installed breaks or causes to break any of the components or causes corruption of any working parts or code there in, or does not perform as speculated it does do...and does not do...can be held liable.
 
and I do not mean lied to...
 
How about that policy?/ be employed hopefully soon?...or return policy if so found not working as should be..regardless of promises to fix it...so as to lead all along the pay highway....because they did not do the RND....another means of income some people give freely...perhaps that is another means to gain now some payment for....troubleshooting it if so is bugged or buggy because of...spyware!

Sir Les
and if bandwidth is being used on my account to do this tracking and info gaining...that charge can also be added to the price, plus electricity, and or gear used....to gain kickbacks...to buy the products.....they make with said info, which will not be free!

Do you charge your cable company or TV network for showing advertisements during a show you're watching? I'm not sure all your concerns are being totally productive here. I won't downplay how people may be concerned with how information is used, but at some point, you have to start living life and just be careful about what you do that could be private to you. 

But those services you list are free at the point of use. The advertising is what pays for them.

And it seems not able to remove, and was not informed they would be on or in or of...when doing the buying of...or enforced into my domain// without ways to remove!
 

Sir Les
I certainly should...my email, my soundcloud...my youtube...they do not pay me...for adverts, yet there they are...and now my computer tells me when this or that has been posted to...with interruption windows if connected..
 
So, if one has to pay to put adverts on billboards...they should pay the people who now have the plastered on the screens!

That's certainly an interesting point. However, your access to email, Soundcloud, YouTube, billboards, etc. doesn't always cost you anything to access. YouTube is free. Basic television is free. You get to watch almost anything you want and for free. When you go see a movie, you pay for the movie, and still watch advertisements for more movies. So, how does Youtube pay for the infrastructure to host all these videos for you? Who pays for the movie theaters to show you these movies? Who pays to have the billboards erected to show anything at all? Who pays for the technology so you receive emails? 


The advertisers pay. So, you already have them paying for you to see their ads. They just don't write you the check, they pay YouTube to bring what you want for free.  

and to get that going...you need id, papers and a bank...cost.or fees or tax..Yep...and to be born...also a tax to be born into...and injected to be in...stamped property of Civil roman estates....Surely!...food to stay alive, also charged for...because they will not let me farm on the land I thought I owned when bought...but i have no rights to turn this land into a farm to have free food...without the poison or advertising.....So..we buy...and that is where it kind of all goes wrong...the consumer is only the buyer...never allowed to be the seller....You work for to be taxed, and over charged, and your ideas, sucked and robbed from you....Peasant is the word of them of the day!....you are only a cash cow as long as you allow it!..or be like them ,sell everything even your info...As they will only sell it back or to others when stolen or taken from you, or made into more things to sell from your info, if so used....Do the same!
 
as it is now seen they want that info ..regardless of your wants or unwants for it to be taken...it is...then a reason for this must be capitalistic in nature!...if they all are doing it....Join in.