Leee
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 10:12:55
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Matron Landslide Is that the Breverb2 from SONAR? I have the full version and it's fine
I have both installed and it was missing the plugin directory that had Breverb2 (full version) Whenever I tried to load the Sonar version, it just told me it wouldn't work. So yes, the full version of Breverb 2 DOES indeed work. Thanks!
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 15:42:04
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I've been a loyal Cakewalk/SONAR customer for a couple decades. Many great years have been spent coming to this forum and catching up on the posts. The content is amazing and the characters interesting. I could have posted more but you have to respect the s/n ratio. Thanks to everyone for making it what it is. Having Craig Anderton on the site the past few years has been great. This guy is special. BITD I got his electronics projects out of Guitar Player and managed to cobble up some screamers. I read his book on Mixing and Mastering with SONAR 3 and really enjoyed it - especially the part where different producers used the same tracks to build wildly different songs. Lately he's led the way showing us how to plumb the depths of SONAR to achieve all kinds of cool fun and artistic ends. My admiration and thanks to Craig and his brilliant work. Thanks and best of luck to all the Bakers who came up with all the great software. There have been so many great improvements, upgrades, and overhauls over the years. SONAR Platinum is simply a great product. Truthfully I don't feel inclined to crossgrade just yet. The other programs out there all seem unsatisfying. Sad to see Cakewalk end on such a classy note. I'm sure Gibson had a gun to their head and had no choice. That's the way these things go. There's sure to be another chapter. See you in the next life!!
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 15:53:58
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Microsoft. Please rescue Cakewalk and Sonar out of Gibson. We have 317 signatures now. Please Notice! After filling your signature, you come in to a commercial page where iPetiton ask for money. This is not me, and you have already signed. You can just close the Tab or browser now if you want. But if you want to help iPetition out feel free to give them some money. I started this petition without paying anything to iPetiton and i am thankful to them for giving me the opportunity.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 17:09:39
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Very sad for Cakewalk employees, may you find jobs quickly.
I have been using Cakewalk for over 15 years and I will be puzzled when it's time to select a new DAW eventually when Sonar has grew too old. I guess that I can still go for a few years with Platinum though.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 17:57:46
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Heard about the news on a Facebook music group. So sad. I guess I will be using Reaper.
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ØSkald
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 17:58:31
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☄ Helpfulby aidanodr 2017/11/25 21:07:30
Major_S Very sad for Cakewalk employees, may you find jobs quickly.
I have been using Cakewalk for over 15 years and I will be puzzled when it's time to select a new DAW eventually when Sonar has grew too old. I guess that I can still go for a few years with Platinum though.
I reinstalled Windows last weekend and reinstalled Cakewalk fresh from Command Center. Then I hit some mayor bugs. But some rollback to previous Sonars and installing the latest on top has fixed it. Now I even Got the 3 latest installs of Sonar Platinum. I bought Studio One on Monday to be secure. But after trying to make that work I concluded that I want to save Cakewalk, Sonar, Music Creator and all the plugins because they are the best.
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Ademir
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 18:14:36
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Jarsve Microsoft. Please rescue Cakewalk and Sonar out of Gibson. We have 317 signatures now. Please Notice! After filling your signature, you come in to a commercial page where iPetiton ask for money. This is not me, and you have already signed. You can just close the Tab or browser now if you want. But if you want to help iPetition out feel free to give them some money. I started this petition without paying anything to iPetiton and i am thankful to them for giving me the opportunity.
Good afternoon ... What is the link to this petition?
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Mad_Musicologist
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 18:28:31
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Jarsve Microsoft. Please rescue Cakewalk and Sonar out of Gibson. We have 317 signatures now. Please Notice! After filling your signature, you come in to a commercial page where iPetiton ask for money. This is not me, and you have already signed. You can just close the Tab or browser now if you want. But if you want to help iPetition out feel free to give them some money. I started this petition without paying anything to iPetiton and i am thankful to them for giving me the opportunity.
Please state the link of that petition, although I doubt that Microsoft alone would make any effort. As far as I've heard, a lot of Mackie users are addict to Cakewalk as well.
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ØSkald
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 18:50:34
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Ademir
Jarsve Microsoft. Please rescue Cakewalk and Sonar out of Gibson. We have 317 signatures now. Please Notice! After filling your signature, you come in to a commercial page where iPetiton ask for money. This is not me, and you have already signed. You can just close the Tab or browser now if you want. But if you want to help iPetition out feel free to give them some money. I started this petition without paying anything to iPetiton and i am thankful to them for giving me the opportunity.
Good afternoon ... What is the link to this petition?
https://ipetitions.com/petition/microsoft-please-rescue-cakewalk-and-sonar-out-of I just want to specify, that after you have signed, a page of the ipetitions.com comes op and ask for a donation. If your there you have already signed. You can just load the link to the petition again and write a comment. But if you want to help ipetitons.com you can of course help them out with a little donation. They are in fact letting us do this petition for free. Just remember, it is not me or anyone at Cakewalk that is asking for this money.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 19:26:22
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so much paying out for a bl**** lifetime guarantee Cakewalk will go and start under a different name. We have been sucker punched by greedy moneymakers Wake up Sonar forum. Someone is making profit out of all of us and we should get our lifetime guarantee money back as It is less than a year HANDY THAT
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StevenMikel
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 19:38:51
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I've been paying monthly for SPLAT, how long will it be until it reverts to demo mode ? Never mind,I should have done a search and looked a little closer at other threads concerning this.
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Ademir
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 20:21:33
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hello friends ... I created this online petition against Sonar closing ... We want Gibson to sell the software to another company or at least unlock the software so we can use it after the servers are turned off .. Share this link as much as possible ... Who knows, can we reverse this situation? It costs nothing to try ... I'm Brazilian and I do not write well in English. Forgive me for this ...
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Ademir
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 20:22:08
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I can not post the link here ... Does anyone know why?
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 20:45:56
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What about this forum? Obviously, the Bakers forum makes no sense, but there's nothing like this community elsewhere in the Windows DAW world. As sad as this announcement makes me, I really hope there's life after death for this forum. Ditto bro. Im not great at this stuff and every time Ive been stuck i got a TON of great tips and advice here. I doubt if theres a DAW support forum out there could hold a candle to y'all. I do hope the forum remains in place.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 21:35:27
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Ademir I can not post the link here ... Does anyone know why?
you're too new, 4 posts is not enough to be allowed yet
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Ademir
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 22:37:40
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Ademir I can not post the link here ... Does anyone know why?
you're too new, 4 posts is not enough to be allowed yet
Thanks for the answer. Either way the petition will no longer be necessary. In a Facebook group I read a post from Noel, which reads: "As mentioned we'll definitely provide a way to activate even if the servers go down. That's basic escrow stuff that any company needs to do for it's customers upon end of business". We can calm down a bit, at least for now.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 22:46:32
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Why is there no initiative to encourage a firesale to management? You sell popular brands, not condemn them to death.uless you're plain evil.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 22:49:44
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Very clear in any language. Gibson are only Gibson. Cakewalk is a highly respected brand and product. Anybody can knock out Les Paul's.
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ØSkald
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 00:30:29
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Here is some of the people signing the petition to make Microsoft rescue Cakewalk! https://ipetitions.com/pe...ewalk-and-sonar-out-of United States, Woodland HillsNov 25, 2017 I've been a Cakewalk user since 1994 with cakewalk 5.0. I am a power user have been on major projects such as "Always Coca-Cola" campaign of the 90's thru 200 (engineered 85% of all commercials and produced several in the 1999 and 2000) and have major movie credits. Own all the DAWS and still Sonar sounds the best. Even the late Ray Charles with his super capable hearing chose Sonar over all the others including Pro Tools. Ask his engineer Terry____ ! Please save this software you won't be sorry United Kingdom, HelensburghNov 25, 2017 Please consider taking on Cakewalk Sonar as part of the Microsoft product suite. As one of the most fully featured DAW's on the market, Sonar would make an ideal alternative to Apple's Logic and would further promote the Windows platform as a serious player in the Pro Audio market. Japan, ChibaNov 25, 2017 Please save Cakewalk Sonar. (I use Cakewalk Sonar Professional.) I can't quite believe that such a great and complete Digital Audio Workstation is going to be ignored because of poor business planning. Cakewalk Sonar is very impressive, and having looked at competing products the past few days has made me love Sonar even more. It's great to see such a passionate and varied community come together, too, in support of this excellent software. Well worth every penny, and I'm looking to invest more if it can continue. It needs the same Cakewalk techies to continue development, and release the monthly updates (and goodies) we have all come to look forward to. The only change I recommend is switching up the marketing side, including social media design. A new forum design would be welcomed too. Love Sonar, and it's much too powerful and complete to be ignored. I also love Windows 10, and the two go hand in hand. Saint Kitts and Nevis, BasseterreNov 24, 2017 I'm requesting your commitment in supporting the members of Sonar who has been dropped abruptly. Please do what you can to safe this wonderful software. I wouldn't mind contributing towards this effort. United Kingdom, CamberwellNov 24, 2017 Cakewalk Sonar is the best Windows only Digital Audio Workstation on the market. It is the most user friendly DAW too. GreeceNov 24, 2017 Yes! Thousands Sonar users around the world! We are both Microsoft and Sonar customers. And our jobs are based on Sonar. Sonar is by far the best DAW having used almost all if them. Please do something! United States, LexingtonNov 24, 2017 Please save Sonar! The whole reason I went with Sonar (other than being the best) is it is Windows. They are a perfect match! Canada, North YorkNov 24, 2017 I've been a Sonar user for about 14 years. To me, having it under MS would be great, as Cakewalk already has/had a great relationship with MS, to my knowledge, and it would create the perfect adversary to Apple's Garage Band/Logic Pro for pushing MS as a brand for creatives. United States, SudburyNov 24, 2017 Microsoft, we Cakewalk users are loyal Windows users. It would make an excellent addition to the Windows family of software. Netherlands, GoorNov 24, 2017 I bought last year Cakewalk Sonar Platinum with live time updates, I tried many DAW, but Sonar is the best for me! Do not the same what they did to opcode! Please save Cakewalk Sonar!! There is no better DAW! Canada, DrummondvilleNov 23, 2017 Cakewalk SONAR is a good PC DAW that I've been using for 5 years. I'd like to see it continue on. Cakewalk also has some very good software instruments like "Rapture Pro" (compatible VSTi, AU and AAX) that I would really love to be able to use for years to come. Years ago, Apple bought the company that made Logic Pro and Apple also bought the software synth "Alchemy" from Camel Audio. Microsoft could pick up Cakewalk SONAR and improve it. United Kingdom, Bognor RegisNov 23, 2017 SONAR is by far the most integrated with Windows, was looking forward to getting a Surface Dial to work along the touchscreen on Windows 10....
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 00:38:36
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 01:00:16
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So, for will people who paid for rolling updates be refunded? I just renewed, so I'm hoping I'm not out the money I paid for updates.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 01:06:29
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From the announcement, two things stand out to me: "... we ceased new product development and reduced overall operations ..." So this would imply (perhaps optimistically on my part), that the skeleton crew left will be focussed on some level of maintenance. Given Gibson's past record with holding on to IP, I'm not holding my hopes up for Cakewalk being sold on at this point, nor do I think Gibson will want to open-source Sonar. I did occur to me however that there must be a fair few professional software developers (myself included), who would be more than happy to volunteer their services to keep Sonar going. I guess this would work in a a similar way to open source, but rather than being "open" it would be limited to those who sign an NDA. Obviously beta testers would be invaluable as well. Maybe it would only take one or two Cakewalk staff members to vet any code changes. This solution would at least allow bugs and any issues with Windows updates to be looked at, whilst allowing Gibson to keep their IP and keep their costs down to a minimum. Just a thought...
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 01:42:28
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I've been a licensed user of cakewalk and SONAR producer products since it was distributed on 5.25" floppies, a long time ago. This is a disappointing decision, on the part of Gibson, that will cause me financial issues. (eg: failing to trainsitiopn to Logic fully last year due to faith in Cakewalk meant investing in the wrong hardware) If find it very ironic, and telling, that Gibson essentially bagged a high-tech product and staff that actually works, while clinging to G-Force as a flagship Gibson brand product. My G-Force Gibson Les Paul, out of the box, came with a single instruction for use, essentiaslly " press this button and strum to tune", which resulted in two strings almost completely unwinding themselves, some strings tuned way too high, and a completly untuned instrument-- after scrounging the net for info, I found a manual Gibson had stashed online, which revealed one of the worst-designed user interfaces in embedded computer history (I have been designing them for decades, and know.) The idea that Gibson executives are shutting down Cakewalk to focus on anything music/consumer electronic is pretty stupid. Somebody should tell them that bull dicks are nasty dog treats or canes for old men, and should not be eaten, especially by the bag. Oh well.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 03:05:31
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☄ Helpfulby Jarsve 2017/11/26 03:35:26
Is it possible to convert or render Sonar files to work in Pro Tools? EDIT: I just found this excellent article. http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2017/11/25/the-critical-lesson-all-of-us-should-learn-from-the-cakewalk-closure Exporting SONAR Projects as OMF Files for Use in Other Applications Last updated on 3/28/2016 Return to Part 1- Importing OMF filesAn Ounce of Preparation...If you plan to export a SONAR project to another program that can read OMF files, it pays to consider three things before you start your SONAR project: - Sample rate and audio bit depth of the target system
- Number of tracks the target system can handle
- SONAR and most other audio programs do not include Video in OMF file
While sample rates and bit depths can be converted after you export a project, it saves a lot of time to avoid conversions, if at all possible. To Prepare a SONAR Project to Export as an OMF File 1. Make a copy of the project you want to export, and then only work on the copy to prepare for export. 2. If you have any MIDI tracks you want to export in the project, either record them as audio tracks, or put them into a Standard MIDI File that the other program can read. 3. Delete any tracks you don't want to export. 4. If you want to export volume or pan automation that is represented in SONAR as volume and pan envelopes, you will need to Edit-Bounce to Tracks or Edit-Bounce to Clips to mix the envelopes into new audio tracks or clips. 5. If you want to export the sound of any plug-in effects that you have patched, select the tracks that have the effects patched, and then use the Process-Apply Audio Effects command. 6. Create a text file to send along with the OMF file, detailing the tempo and any other important information about the project. Exporting SONAR Projects as OMF FilesAfter you prepare a copy of your project to export, exporting is straightforward. Check with the engineer at the target studio to see if there are any special instructions for exporting, such as whether they want the file in Windows (RIFF Wave) or Mac (AIFC) format, which you can choose in SONAR's Export OMF dialog. If you've booked time at the studio, arrange to have your project played and inspected at the studio the day before your session, to be sure your project is as expected. To Export a SONAR Project as an OMF File1. Use the File | Export | OMF command. 2. The Export OMF dialog appears. 3. Enter a File Name (maximum 64 characters-SONAR limits name length for ISO CDR compatibility), and in the Save As Type field, choose OMF Version 1 or 2. Most applications expect Version 2, but check with your engineer. 4. Audio Packaging: usually you should choose Embed Audio Within OMF, which includes the audio data in the OMF file. But you should check with your engineer. 5. Split Stereo Tracks Into Dual Mono: see what your engineer wants. If exporting a 24-bit project to a Pro Tools system, enable "Split Stereo Tracks Into Dual Mono," as some Pro Tools systems do not support 24-bit interleaved stereo files. 6. Include Archived Tracks: you can choose to include archived tracks in your exported file. 7. Mix Each Groove Clip As A Separate Clip: if you have several Groove Clips in a track SONAR exports them as one clip unless you check this option. If you check this option, SONAR has to do a separate export operation for each Groove Clip in the track, which is very time-consuming. If you only have one Groove Clip in a track, and you have rolled out numerous repetitions of the clip, SONAR exports a single clip that is the length of the original clip and all the repetitions, which is not a time-consuming operation. 8. Audio Format: ask your engineer what format the studio uses, Windows (RIFF Wave) or Mac (AIFC). 9. Click the Save button. 10. SONAR exports the project as an OMF file. You can also open OMF files to SONAR from Pro Tools and other programs that can export OMF (File-Open command). Read the tip on importing OMF files into SONAR.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 04:11:28
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one hopes that Gibson will sell Cakewalk/Sonar rather than just shut it down. of course, one would also assume if that were the case, they would have been shopping the software company while they still had employees... has anyone heard if Craig Anderton has made a statement? he's integrally linked with Gibson's purchase of Cakewalk...
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 04:15:48
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gamehits one hopes that Gibson will sell Cakewalk/Sonar rather than just shut it down. of course, one would also assume if that were the case, they would have been shopping the software company while they still had employees... has anyone heard if Craig Anderton has made a statement? he's integrally linked with Gibson's purchase of Cakewalk...
Craig has posted on this thread some pages back.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 04:16:07
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In case you don't know, he is no longer with Gibson, and I think he doesn't want to say much, or reveal anything he may know.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 05:21:05
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Matron Landslide In case you don't know, he is no longer with Gibson, and I think he doesn't want to say much, or reveal anything he may know. Everybody that got a pink slip at Cake probably also had to sign some kind of termination agreement that says they can't disclose anything about anything, talk bad about the company, and maybe some non-compete mumbo jumbo, if they want to receive their severance paycheck, and not forfeit it within some specific time frame. That is the most likely reason there are no familiar faces stating the facts.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/26 06:36:52
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Matron Landslide In case you don't know, he is no longer with Gibson, and I think he doesn't want to say much, or reveal anything he may know.
Everybody that got a pink slip at Cake probably also had to sign some kind of termination agreement that says they can't disclose anything about anything, talk bad about the company, and maybe some non-compete mumbo jumbo, if they want to receive their severance paycheck, and not forfeit it within some specific time frame. That is the most likely reason there are no familiar faces stating the facts.
Or they don't want to ruin their reputations and chances of employment somewhere else by shooting their mouth off online about their previous employer.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
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I think there is a bit of that, especially when your previous employer could be one of the ones that may possibly offer you consultation gigs
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