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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 01:17:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cincyjack 2018/01/14 14:10:40
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BTW I like this forum very much, but it is poisoned by some mournful creatures who do not like Sonar at all. Why do they not just switch to another DAW and let us Sonar lovers be?




I have said this repeatedly.
 
Sharke stays here just to tell us how Sonar sucks. I am so tired of his TIRED stories. The sos post after post.
So leave already. Get out and leave those of us that enjoy Sonar and aren't here to keep hammering it's issues alone.
 
I have been here since CW Pro Audio 6, when ever that was. Yes bugs. OK. Oh Boy!
****But, Guess what? as Cactus said, for what I do Sonar is the best of the best. NOTHING comes close For me.
 
So please stop. Really? what's your point? Is it just to be trolls? Sure seems like it. Get a life.

 
 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 01:26:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jatoth 2018/01/15 15:03:32
^^
You know what I'm so tired of? It's the US vs THEM mentality. You do realise the reason we are all here is because we loved that application? And just because YOU don't agree does not make other people trolls or bad people.. Grow up !!

I'm glad you are happy, maybe if there were a few thousand more like you Cakewalk may not be out of business.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 02:02:40 (permalink)
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If you want to blame Gibson you can blame them for poor management, buying companies without a solid business plan to bring them to profitability, or possibly lack of ability to execute on whatever plan they did have.

Since you seem to be an expert, may I ask what business plan you propose for a rapidly changing environment where an increasing amount of DAW's on multiple platforms are given away for free, sponsored by ads or follows gear ? 


..
 Are you implying that it's not possible to have a business plan "for a rapidly changing environment where an increasing amount of DAW's on multiple platforms are given away for free, sponsored by ads or follows gear ? "
 ...

No, I'm asking.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 02:19:30 (permalink)
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The more time I spend on other DAW's the more I realize that whatever its faults may have been, Sonar was well ahead of the pack in many ways. I used to think Sonar needed work on its meter systems and never could figure out why they never changed anything. I've come to realize that Sonar has more tweaks for its meters than all the other DAW's combined. No wonder my feature requests were never answered.


This is how I feel as well John. Sometimes the promoters for other DAW's led me to believe I was missing something. The truth is SONAR was pretty special. Cue the S1 zealots who will come in to say I'm not doing it right.
 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 02:25:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby CakeAlexSHere 2018/01/14 03:07:25
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BTW I like this forum very much, but it is poisoned by some mournful creatures who do not like Sonar at all. Why do they not just switch to another DAW and let us Sonar lovers be?




I have said this repeatedly.
 
Sharke stays here just to tell us how Sonar sucks. I am so tired of his TIRED stories. The sos post after post.
So leave already. Get out and leave those of us that enjoy Sonar and aren't here to keep hammering it's issues alone.
 
I have been here since CW Pro Audio 6, when ever that was. Yes bugs. OK. Oh Boy!
****But, Guess what? as Cactus said, for what I do Sonar is the best of the best. NOTHING comes close For me.
 
So please stop. Really? what's your point? Is it just to be trolls? Sure seems like it. Get a life.




I will say this once stratman. I do not care one jot if you don't think I should be here. Who the hell are you to decide who should and shouldn't take part on the forums, or what kind of attitude toward Sonar people here should have? I've been very active on this forum since 2012 and while I certainly wasn't the most prolific beta tester I've contributed toward a good few bugs being squashed, maybe in ways which benefited YOUR enjoyment of Sonar. I've also paid a good deal of money for the program and its updates over the years, so I think when all is said and done I'm 100% entitled to express whatever opinion I like about the program on this forum, regardless of whether or not it offends your clearly delicate emotions. I'm starting to understand Alex's rants a bit more now. 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 02:31:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Klaus 2018/01/18 22:30:27
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I'm glad you are happy, maybe if there were a few thousand more like you Cakewalk may not be out of business.

Maybe if you were really happy with S1 you'd be on their forum instead of this one. Part of the reason that so many users and former users still congregate here (even though some have moved on to other DAWs) is that there is a strong sense of community here. You're back and exhibiting the same pattern that you used to employ (when you were banned). You seem to thrive on attacking the user base as though somehow there is something wrong with everyone else. Don't take this wrong but - maybe it's you?
I see you're making friends at Beyond Cakewalk too... well done.
How about this - It's a CAKEWALK forum - let Cakewalk users be happy with their choice.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 02:53:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jatoth 2018/01/15 15:06:25
^ And I am "attacking the user base" how exactly? Because you don't agree with my opinion about how this piece of software developed? Have I actually attacked you? Er nope.

Er did I ever says people should not be allowed to be happy using Sonar? Did I say I was not happy with their "choice".... Nope? Do you know I am a Sonar lifer as well and have upgraded every version since X1?

And this "strong sense of community" statement is an absolute load of waffle designed to give the "US right" vs "YOU wrong" impression, therefore you must be a troll and "nasty person". Well you are just ONE person making one comment as am I. I am not going to stoop myself low enough to make such comments back at you.

Same behaviour trait? Yup because I am DEFENDING myself and standing up for myself as per usual, because people like you don't like what I write and won't accept viewpoints you don't like, and there end up attacking me. And rather actually have a technical discussion would prefer just to demonise people.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 03:25:30 (permalink)
The defence rests....

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 03:38:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2018/01/29 09:01:40
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The defence rests....


Oh people are on trial now..? OK sure whatever.
Regardless of the outcome I won't be able to activate ;)
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 04:03:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby stratman70 2018/01/14 04:20:33
Any user who does not like Sonar, and has found a new software home, and who insists on coming here and bashing Sonar now that it is in its death throes, is by definition trolling. If your glad it's dead, fine, say so once and move on to the DAW of your choice. Anything beyond that is obvious trolling. You have nothing to gain here and nothing to contribute. The fact that you are still here shows you clearly have another agenda. You don't need a degree in Psychology to figure this out (although I have two). The people still on this forum are continuing Sonar users, who plan to continue using it indefinitely, or until they transition to another DAW. They are here to support one another, both professionally with continuing advice and problem solving, as well as emotionally during a difficult transition. There is no other reason for anyone to be here. Especially when all you bring to the table is negativity. It's mean-spirited, immature and a waste of everyone's time. Your too old to be told to grow up, so I'll just say "Get lost."

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 04:19:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby CakeAlexSHere 2018/01/14 14:12:30
I've used Sonar for over a decade. However, I rarely comment. But reading the arguments here is like watching mom and dad fight before he packs up the station wagon and leaves us for the hot, new cashier (who's half his age) from the grocery market. ...lol

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 04:29:34 (permalink)
You know, maybe I get too excited and upset. OK, I'll admit to that. Sorry!
But Michael D said it much better than I did, or at least without the anger.
 
 

 
 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 04:39:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby CakeAlexSHere 2018/01/14 10:25:18
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You know, maybe I get too excited and upset. OK, I'll admit to that. Sorry!
But Michael D said it much better than I did, or at least without the anger.

 
Just stop trying to tell people that they should "go away," accept that this is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks in lockstep, and everything will be cool. Sound good? 
 

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 05:39:42 (permalink)
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Brando
The defence rests....


Oh people are on trial now..? OK sure whatever.
Regardless of the outcome I won't be able to activate ;)



Noel has stated repeatedly that you will be able to activate Sonar if the online activation is killed so you are spreading misinformation..... repeatedly

 
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 05:41:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Lord Tim 2018/01/14 05:53:49
My request to everyone is this. Be rational and avoid getting into speculation and petty arguments about what should or should not have happened - its not going to be positive or help anyone. By all means go and explore other software choices if you are in a critical business or you are risk averse. Choices are good and if nothing you will learn what works for you by using other tools. If something works for you and makes you creative, use it. End of story. This applies irrespective of whether this event happened or not. Software like SONAR will be functional for many years into the future irrespective of whether its updated or not. People are still making music with 10 year old versions of SONAR.
Honestly there aren't any mods around or a large portion of these posts would have been deleted or the thread would have been locked, since its gone vastly off topic from the announcement. Please self moderate and be respectful of this community especially in this time.

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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 09:34:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jaxman12 2018/01/27 16:20:24
I'm testing the Mixcraft 8 Acustica and realized how similar it is with Sonar I can say that because of that I'm having no trouble working with it. Sometimes I forget that I'm using other software other than Sonar, I really see that these rivals have followed the scratching things that Cakewalk put on the market first. But I'm glad that the competition recognizes that Sonar is highly intuitive. I'm liking the Software mostly liked the ease of creating loops. The sonar at the same time that it is easy on sonar sometimes there are strange bugs that simply do not happen in Mixcraft. However after I used the Pro Channel on Sonar I find it difficult for a competitor to offer something as remarkable as the FX chain. Finally the failure of many of the competitors is the lack of full compatibility with old and new plug-ins, something simply spectacular in Sonar. Mixcraft has suffered to read some plug-ins that simply fail to run in the Daw. In contrast the Pro Studio version comes with string samples and various interesting and good quality ethnic instruments that make it easy to create jingles. The Interface and visual is simpler and lighter than Sonar. But when it comes to opening a project with heavy plug-ins, Sonar can open the project faster than Mixcraft. Definitely at least for me, there is no Sonar replacement that can fulfill all the functions of the Cakewalk Daw and still have superior resources and accounting. You'll have to do things more like how we do in ProTools, only the Mixcraft personally found it much more user friendly and fun to work with than Avid's Software.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 10:34:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jatoth 2018/02/07 16:47:23
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Just stop trying to tell people that they should "go away," accept that this is not an echo chamber where everyone thinks in lockstep, and everything will be cool. Sound good? 
 


^

This.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement 2018/01/14 10:44:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby VanessaJ 2018/01/25 18:56:41
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Honestly there aren't any mods around or a large portion of these posts would have been deleted or the thread would have been locked, since its gone vastly off topic from the announcement. Please self moderate and be respectful of this community especially in this time.


There are so few of us, we can't possibly read every post in every thread.
This thread has run its course.

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