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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:13:51
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stacy.odell
Oh this is lovely -- two whole months since I did all the research and decided to make the plunge with Sonar as my DAW of choice. 
I'm so sorry to hear that. I've fiddled with Reaper. Looks decent.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:15:08
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☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2017/12/19 09:15:56
Not bothering to contact customers by email is rude - I found out on a Facebook music group.
I would like to not have to rely on the Cakewalk server, as others have mentioned, providing permanent authorisation codes would be the right thing to do.
I have two accounts - lifetime on my personal one and 1 x lifetime, plus 20 pro versions (added in April this year) on my work account.
I can't teach dead software so will need to replace the 20 copies with something. I don't want dongles, so Cubase is out. I will probably go for Studio One - it doesn't have notation though. I could look at Notion but we already have Sibelius.
Good luck to the developers, my gripe is with the Gibson management, not the Cakewalk staff.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:15:22
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Cakewalk SONAR are just fabulous!!! Too bad, it goes! This is a big waste and I cannot believe that nobody gonna take this treasure onto is harms...man I work every day with this since 1997 back with Cakewalk pro audio 8...I feel guilty that I haven't upgrade all the time the company had something new. Because, I'm not a computer man but a musician so, it take long time to me to lean all the richness of this program. The bakers going too fast for me, they are genius and more and more.
Like a lot of people, I feel like I'm loosing a very close friend because every time I had a problem that I couldn't resolve myself, I knew that it was possible to find an help here on the forum.
In case of nobody will take this in is own, I want to sincerely say thank you to every body here...staff first, consumers after and believers after. 20 years with you is nor nothing for me!
Common somebody have to grew up that thing! Why not?
Où aillent notes estie???
Love SONAR
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:26:35
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Ironic....I landed in this forum today because I was looking for a thread on why Cakewalk Sonar is not promoted more. I guess I got my answer. :-/ It's bittersweet for me since this was my first DAW. I have two other DAWs and was thinking I needed to really focus on one. That choice is now easier: Reason 10 or Ableton 10. The VSTs and plugins I have will work in any DAW platform so that's not really a problem. I might miss the Quad curve EQ so I'll probably head over to Fab Filter Pro for that. I have the project files from my first CD so not sure what I can do there. I know the software will still work so I'm not totally SOL. Just kinda sad really.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:30:19
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☄ Helpfulby Del 2017/11/25 22:13:36
Very saddened and a bit angry, too.
As many have already written, my heart goes out to the Cakewalk employees who, so close to the holidays, have lost their jobs.
Thank you for all you have done and I wish (as I imagine all of us here at the forum do) you much success in the your future endeavors.
God bless!
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:34:08
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So what DAW is everyone thinking of making the switch to? I don’t know how I feel about putting my eggs in a basket that’s been closed. The Pro-Channel/console simulations played a big role in my decision to jump on board with Cakewalk a few years ago. Should I just buy Waves NLS and look for something different?
I already have Ableton and Reason so I'll choose between those two. Since I'm concentrating on dance music it'll probably be Ableton, although they both work well for that.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:34:13
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I love this forum and would be willing to kick in some money to keep it going.
ditto
Me too.
Forum software: $400 one time + $16 per month after one year
Hosting (guessed): $50 per month (or more)
Still willing? 
400 split between 400 people=1 dollar
Still interested ? Yes.
Again, me too. There are hundreds of regulars here, I'm sure a fundraiser could be put in place.
Me too.
Me, too
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 22:40:50
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HARDDRlVER
I have a question, perhaps two.
Also, with Splat you got Melodyne Essentials and some adpaks from Addictive Drums. Can those be moved to a new daw?
My question exactly. I want to know if I can still use AD2 and Adpaks in another DAW. Melodyne...not so much.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/24 23:02:02
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GuitarTig
I sure wish that I could purchase one final update. The version I currently own has suited me fine, but if this is my last chance for a "bite at the Apple" I would like to have the latest assuming it would allow me to use the software a bit longer before it becomes incompatible with a follow upon version of Windows.
Yes, please! I wouldn't pay full price, but I'd be willing to toss in say 50€ for the latest Professional. Mine is about a year behind, and there's some newer additions I'd like to have.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 00:15:53
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Sempai45
My question exactly. I want to know if I can still use AD2 and Adpaks in another DAW. Melodyne...not so much.
Before this I've always been able to use AD2 in FL Studio and Maschine, so it should work fine. And once you've installed and authorized it you have a separate XLN account which is managed by the XLN product manager.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 00:19:24
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This really sucks. I hate Gibson even more now. They killed Slingerland drums years ago too. The final nail in Slingerland's coffin, was demand by Gibson, that in order to become a Slingerland dealer, music stores also had to carry Gibson guitars. This was not feasible for the "Mom & Pop" music stores, who simply couldn't afford to carry both lines, given the stratospheric costs.
Gee, good think I purchased the Platinum upgrade with free lifetime updates. I smell a class action lawsuit. I hope Gibson goes out of business and someone like Microsoft takes over Cakewalk. Or maybe it's time to get into Cubase...
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 01:05:41
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Started with Twelve Tone Systems DOS version in the '80s ... ended with Sonar7 Producer XP in '00s.
About a week ago, I paid to have a new laptop built to spec, loaded with Win10, Sonar Platinum, and interface plug-ins.
Yesterday, I read about this gibson muck.
Fortunately the online store I ordered my new rig from [ Chris at ADK Pro Audio (Kentucky) ] was great about it, and I was able to swap out the Sonar purchase for other items of equal value (laptop is still being built).
The New Rig:
[ADK Pro Audio online store]
- i7-8700K 6 core, 17" laptop @4.7GHz, 32gb ram, 512GB ssd, 1TB spinner
- PreSonus Studio One 3 Pro
- PreSonus Faderport
- Apollo Twin mkii DUO TBolt
- Startech TB3-->TB2 adaptor
[already got / had]
- Softube Console 1
- Yamaha moXF8
- Genelec 1030A's
- VSTs, old rack stuff, etc...
Looking forward to learning S1 via Youtube for now, and then later "in person".
Good luck to all the code weasels at Cakewalk ...
You've made getting our work done enjoyable & much easier for decades. Thanks Again!
May your in-boxes be filled with job offers.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 01:46:40
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☄ Helpfulby Offlabeluse 2017/11/26 23:48:55
First of all, I don't blame Cakewalk. I truly believe this was as much a surprise to them as us. That being said, when they killed phone support by saying you would have to submit an email request to get a call back and then never called anybody back I was getting worried. Then when email support requests were not getting answered I got pissed at Gibson because Cakewalk had always had some of the best support out there and that was a large part of why I was such a loyal customer. But back to the current situation. That we were not even notified and learned of this through the news is all on Gibson and is reprehensible.
The real problem however lies with the promotion of the "lifetime updates" as hard as they did. My friend and I debated whether to go with the lifetime purchase by trying to imagine all the various possible scenarios under which the lifetime update purchase might at some point expire. We even considered things as simple as a name change. We never considered Gibson killing Cakewalk and Sonar. In the end, both being long time users and supporters of Sonar, we pulled the trigger, he getting an upgrade from x-3 to Platinum with "lifetime" for $149 and me paying the same $199 as everyone else. The lifetime updates program was sold as a "once in a lifetime" opportunity and was even extended by three months. Funny now to hear that "lifetime" wasn't even a year.
From my perspective (and apparently many others) the whole "lifetime updates" promotion was a blatant fraud, perpetrated I feel by Gibson/Philips, NOT Cakewalk. But I believe ANYONE that paid for lifetime updates deserves a refund. And I also think this warrants a class action lawsuit. It won't get anybody much money, but it can punish Gibson and perhaps make it easier and provide some to force Gibson to sell the company. I woule also encourage everyone to be sure their friends that use Gibson products be aware of this. I have no doubt that since they are now Gibson/Philips (or is it Philips/Gibson) and they are an acquisitions conglomerate focusing on cheap the Philips home electronics brand, their products and guitars will suffer noticeable quality losses. And I would no longer buy ANY Gibson electronics devices because I would be afraid they would use re-purposed and/or modified cheap Philips electronics.
In the event they refuse to refund anyone's money, I think a class action lawsuit would go a long way to easing the pain, at least from a satisfaction stand point.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 02:06:32
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Folks, the 50% off Cubase crossgrade is now live at Sweetwater - I guess they have somebody there making sure the lights stay on over the Thanksgiving holiday.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 02:25:28
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jvlm57
The real problem however lies with the promotion of the "lifetime updates" as hard as they did. My friend and I debated whether to go with the lifetime purchase by trying to imagine all the various possible scenarios under which the lifetime update purchase might at some point expire. We even considered things as simple as a name change. We never considered Gibson killing Cakewalk and Sonar. In the end, both being long time users and supporters of Sonar, we pulled the trigger, he getting an upgrade from x-3 to Platinum with "lifetime" for $149 and me paying the same $199 as everyone else. The lifetime updates program was sold as a "once in a lifetime" opportunity and was even extended by three months. Funny now to hear that "lifetime" wasn't even a year.
I grabbed the Lifetime update in June of 2016. So I got a little more than a year. But then I payed a whole lot more for the upgrade then, too. It wasn't "full price" because I was upgrading from X3, but still way more than $199. And I'm happy with that. I got almost 18 months of some amazing updates. When I bought Platinum, the 30th Anniversary wasn't yet in full swing. I certainly didn't get the Lifetime expecting a bunch of freebies, either... just the normal product improvements and fixes. I am angry at how this closure was handled. I am also angry at the hard sell massive push well into November to keep trying to sell the Lifetime updates - Gibson must have known by then that they would close Cakewalk within a week or so. That is Gibson's Unforgivable Sin. Looking from a business perspective, it appears they had no choice but to close Cakewalk. They sure could have managed it differently, though.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 02:41:27
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Sempai45
My question exactly. I want to know if I can still use AD2 and Adpaks in another DAW. Melodyne...not so much.
Before this I've always been able to use AD2 in FL Studio and Maschine, so it should work fine. And once you've installed and authorized it you have a separate XLN account which is managed by the XLN product manager.
With my trial version of Studio One, I've had no problems loading Melodyne Studio or Addictive Drums 2, or any other virtual instrument. So far the only thing that did NOT load was Breverb2. Not sure why. EDIT: It was the Breverb 2 Sonar version that wouldn't load. I found the plugin directory for the full version of Breverb 2, and it does work.
post edited by Leee - 2017/11/25 10:16:09
Lee Shapirowww.soundclick.com/leeshapiro Welcome BandLab and thank you for giving Cakewalk and Sonar a new lease on life.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 02:44:52
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Is that the Breverb2 from SONAR? I have the full version and it's fine
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 04:30:44
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Empathizing with the users and the thousands of hours spent creating, enjoying, this thing, only to watch it fade into the sunset.
I had a similar feeling of disgust when Sony squeezed the life out of the wonderful DAW creative tool known as Acid Pro, which is on life support only because Magix purchased the zombie software. (btw, I still use it on a basic level as a creative tool).
Give Gibson some love for trying to make the product viable within a market glutted with free software and major competition.
The indicators must have been pretty gloomy to do this right before Christmas and Channuka.
Know that the diehards will keep this thing going for a while, and we'll all have to transition into something else because the creative urge will take us to new horizons, regardless of any failed business model that gets in the way!
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 04:51:04
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Somewhere in all the threads on this, I read that Gibson kept Cakewalk going longer than its profitability might warrant. If that's true, then I appreciate that.
I am miffed at the hype for 'lifetime update'. At least it might mean "will work until Windows breaks it" once we get the authorization codes to install/reinstall/ keep it from reverting to demo mode.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 05:23:18
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Sorry to see Gibson flushing Cakewalk down the tubes. I cut my DAW teeth on Cakewalk products, first with DOS version running on a 386 bridgeboard in a Commodore Amiga, and later on PCs running Windows from the midi only versions, through all the "Audio" / "Pro Audio" versions, and five iterations of Sonar. I got to experience Commodore and Amiga disappear from the face of the Earth, and don't look forward to seeing the day when there is no trace of Cakewalk anywhere.
RIP Cake
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 05:25:22
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They should allow long time users the opportunity to download every and all expansion packs by any and all vendors for free.... open up the gates....
Maybe that's why DSF's stuff was removed a while back....they saw the writing....
I have about 8 or 9 packs, but...................
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 06:20:12
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It feels like a dear friend has passed away - my deepest condolences. To all the Cakewalk staff, my thoughts and prayers are with you. I wish you all the best.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 07:07:57
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Yesterday Steam versions of Sonar and Rapture were updated but there is no info what was in update.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 07:21:13
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As others seem to be in the position where they don't have some of the packs and now can't download them (for example, my post on the Rapture Pro packs and the sample packs for SONAR Platinum)...
Is there some way we can setup an "exchange" (archive) somewhere for people to share the installers that they may still have on their machines with those who might have cleaned up/rebuilt and lost them since they were pulled from the download servers?
Given the licence validation system, this should be acceptable - and this would be an awesome way to ensure that all of us Cakewalk users have a way to grab the complete set of their downloaders and archive them away themselves.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 07:26:30
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Would be interesting if slate digital bought cakewalk. Always loved slate plugins and always loved sonar. Except for the terrible customer service over the last 6months. Now explained by the downward spiral of Gibson Brands. Someone good please revamp sonar! Would be worse if it was dragged out and bought by another group with poor management. Still, rooting for a epic comeback!! Love you Sonar long time!
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 07:30:22
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But Slate uses iLok, don't they?
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 07:45:58
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Very sad news and it is a worry! Will be on the lookout for cross grade deals in the not too distant future.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 09:15:22
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So it seems that a company with a mechanical engineering degree (Henry Juszkiewicz, Chairman and CEO of Gibson Corporation), has, by shutting down Cakewalk, demonstrated a lack of understanding of music and musicians. This despite owning a music company for over 30 years. I should be surprised... but I guess I'm not.
What I'm upset about, is that I'm one of those that purchased the lifetime subscription, so I would say that I and others, who also got the subscription were screwed.
Also, those who are paying monthly, and yearly subscriptions, were also screwed.
Juszkiewicz, and the rest of Gibson's board chose to put short term profit over customer loyalty.
That could cost Gibson in the long term. I myself, plan to no longer purchase any items connected with Gibson in any way.
If Juszkiewicz and the rest of the board wish to demonstrate that they still care about customer loyalty, they should do the following:
1- Complete refunds for those on monthly and yearly subscription, and at least a partial refund for those who purchased the lifetime subscription.
2- Either sell Cakewalk to a responsible to responsible third party headed by people experienced in the music industry (musicians, engineers, etc...) (If the third party agrees to continue to honor the subscriptions, then point "1" can be dispensed with.)
or
3- Release the Sonar code as open source so the community can continue to develop it.
As for the dedicated people at Cakewalk. Thank you for the great product you've been developing over many years. I know you will end up on your feet in better jobs, continue your careers. The best of luck in all your future endeavors.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 09:30:18
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AndrewLMacaulay
As others seem to be in the position where they don't have some of the packs and now can't download them (for example, my post on the Rapture Pro packs and the sample packs for SONAR Platinum)...
Is there some way we can setup an "exchange" (archive) somewhere for people to share the installers that they may still have on their machines with those who might have cleaned up/rebuilt and lost them since they were pulled from the download servers?
Given the licence validation system, this should be acceptable - and this would be an awesome way to ensure that all of us Cakewalk users have a way to grab the complete set of their downloaders and archive them away themselves.
I had no problem with the Rapture Pro Packs nor anything else, I just finished downloading everything I wanted now, I did notice a couple of the DSF Packs for Rapture ( the original) seemed like they were missing, nothing would download and Firefox download reported 'Failed' but I went back and tried them again at the end and they came down fine. I still had it all in the CCC Download folder, and on another External Drive, but just grabbed it all again together on another drive, I didn't want to loose the instruments stuff. I didn't bother with the Big Fish stuff or any of the SONAR Platinum stuff again, not into loops and SONAR has been of no interest to me for 3 years or so. I do have every file since Platinum began but stored away, except the Big Fish stuff that was released recently.
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Re: Cakewalk Announcement
2017/11/25 09:55:31
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Gee....seemed like this might be coming...sadly.
Thanks all you Cake makers. Amazing software, very well done and thank you for the years of support.
Thanks too to all you forum doods...what a great ride. You folk are just as awesome!
Hopefully after I burn my Les Paul in protest (not gonna happen) there will be a new dawn rising with some company looking for a killer product taking on the mighty Sonar.
Anyone interested in a V Studio setup? Comes with free software.
Cheers all.
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