ne can mention a great macro recorder too

noiseboy

John

noiseboy


Put it this way - I'm still actively looking for a new DAW (tried and rejected Cubase) in part because I feel Cakewalk does not respond constructively to its community of users.  The silence in the response to this thread increases that feeling.  Obviously communication with their public here isn't a priority for them, and of course that's their call.  But I will be continuing to look elsewhere.

This post just makes me angry. This is a peer to peer forum that CW has said many times is not a means to communicate with CW. What is so darn hard to understand about this?

Just because a CW employee takes the time on occasion to interact is not a reason for anyone to think they are talking to CW when they post here. They are kind enough to come here but they are not obligated to do so. This is like talking to a friend thinking the President will hear.

Also demanding that they do is down right rude. We are in their house under their rules we need to be grateful that CW provides this place for our use. Demanding stuff as a guest in their house is not just bad manners but shows a real immaturity on the part of the poster.  Its bad behavior. 

You can demand all you want but no one need answer.

In the hope this constructively ties up loose ends, I do feel allegations were made here and I should have a chance to respond.


I've submitted bug reports and feature requests in the past and never once had an acknowledgement.  Also, this is CW's own forum where I've seen CW contribute frequently (and make announcements), but not at all on this thread (which is a huge public endeavour and a tremendous example of positivism and goodwill).  The thread starters have posted these contents also, never mind this thread - how is that bad manners to expect a basic acknowledgement?!  What is being asked for is not some blanket capitulation to hostile demands, but a polite acknowledgement of customer requests.  I do have every right to consider that combination to be not great customer communication (if anyone from CW wants to contact me in any way, please be my guest!)  I can't for the life of me imagine why my views - which seem both logical and reasonable as far as my own subjectivity will allow - would make somebody angry, but there we are.  John, in the interests of keeping this thread happy and shiny, if you continue to have a problem with my views, perhaps its best to carry on via PM.

I think what Jose and Eratu have done on this thread is great work, and I wish them all the best as they await their response, be it Sonar 9 or - perhaps - an eventual polite acknowledgement.  I will continue my search for a DAW manufacturer who have a more open communication policy, and where the product development is a little more inclusive - I suspect Reaper could be the one for me in the end.

(and probably a whole bunch more stuff that I will never quite figure out how it works or what it's for)

"Thanks everyone for the discussion.  Of course we're listening! 
 
I believe that each and every version of SONAR we've put out since I've been at Cakewalk has included features that come directly from discussions with our customers, and we have no intention of stopping now."

BREAKING NEWS! Cakewalk has responded to this thread! Alex Westner, Director of Product Management, has said, and I quote: "Thanks everyone for the discussion. Of course we're listening! I believe that each and every version of SONAR we've put out since I've been at Cakewalk has included features that come directly from discussions with our customers, and we have no intention of stopping now." With such a pronouncement, Sonar users everywhere have been caught celebrating in the streets, plugging in their amps and jamming uncontrollably, tossing their MIDI controllers into the air with reckless abandon, clicking their VST plugin interfaces with renewed zeal, and participating in general mayhem everywhere. No reports of injuries yet, but we're keeping an eye on the rather fluid situation. Now, back to your normal programming, right after these messages....

Alex Westner [Cakewalk
]

Thanks everyone for the discussion.  Of course we're listening! 
 
I believe that each and every version of SONAR we've put out since I've been at Cakewalk has included features that come directly from discussions with our customers, and we have no intention of stopping now. 

Thanks everyone for the discussion. Of course we're listening!

I couldn't help but bring up my personal two most desired workflow features. :) Yes, I know, shameless.

Jose7822


Great post Lorneyb2.

Just wanted to add yet another feature that would be really cool to have (though probably expensive to develop).  How awesome would it be to be able to conduct your compositions in real-time?  What if Cakewalk could program Sonar to take advantage of current gaming technology such as the Wii-mote so we could then use it to conduct our pieces and make them flow in a more natural way?  Wouldn't that be cool?  At least it would be for the orchestral composers.  Maybe for Sonar 2020? :-P


Take care guys!

SongCraft

Alex Westner [Cakewalk
]

Thanks everyone for the discussion.  Of course we're listening! 

I believe that each and every version of SONAR we've put out since I've been at Cakewalk has included features that come directly from discussions with our customers, and we have no intention of stopping now. 

Thanks Alex,

Greatly appreciate your response :-)

We hope this time round Cakewalk will place more focus on fine-tuning existing features for example; 'more focus on workflow improvements (which would also require modifications to the current UI, and continued optimizations'.   Areas of particular importance are listed in the top-ten along with new UI views such as the integrated Trk+Prv view as suggested by Billp would be a vast improvement on workflow - see pic:



The above view displaying Trk+Prv could also switch to Trk+Staff and others such as Trk+Event List and so on.  Options, user settings for default behavior of views.  Included 'Full-Screen' view as suggested by; John, this removes the upper window menus and buttons and status bar (user-options for Full-Screen view).

Also enhanced the Trk-Inspector with additions for new workflow improvements to envelopes that include Envelope Toolbar (including lock, show/hide and OS and user settings), and Env' Lanes that also display envelope titles such as; volume, pan, fx , and whilst CW is at it please put the Trk-Inspector back in Sonar Home-Studio.

Overall consistency of workflow across all views, for example; arrows key <- lft+rght -> scrolls workspace left/right not only in Prv but also in Track view., better Trk toggling views with user define options for better consistency. 

Maximized workspace options including ultra-compact view for mixer and track views; three modes of view using the 'F" to toggle from full-view, mid-view and ultra-compact view and importantly better use of trk-Title space to allow up to 18 characters in clearer text/font (options) clearer yet still being compact and have auto-color dependent on clip color and include color side-bars (option) as an alternative option to Trk-icons.  Overall a much neater, clearer appearance and optimal use of the UI workspace.

step sequencer:
- per step adjustability of note length (for note lengths not exactly fitting into the grid)
- per step adjustability of velocity, etc

MIDI handling:
- easy way to paint a new empty MIDI clip into the timeline of the track view, which -when doubleclicked- is opened in the PRV in the correct zoom ratio (if painted clip is 8 measures long, PRV timeline zoom is set to display exactly these selected 8 measures)

synth rack:
- when deleting a synth, all related MIDI & audio tracks should be deleted aswell
- having said that, there should also be a function to replace a synth by another one while retaining all related tracks including their data.