*Bump*

Top 10 Workflow Feature Request List with Broad Support from the Sonar Community :-)

01 - Arrangement and Editing Environment
02 - Command Access and Customization
03 - Envelopes and Automation
04 - Plug-in Management and Access
05 - Project and Media Management
06 - Video Post and Scoring Enhancements
07 - Universal Track Architecture and Routing Matrix
08 - Synth Rack and Freeze Improvements
09 - Staff View Improvements
10 - Various GUI Enhancements

Link to Top 10 .. Details:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1888423

Feature Request .. Form:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FeatureRequest.asp

RT Graham: Very nicely done.  This is an impressive effort - and thanks for undertaking it.

Ditto! +1

Thanks to everyone involved! Greatly appreciated. :-)

Meno


"Making music faster and easier" is ok by me. I don't feel like I deserve to be on any list but you guys are great and have my support...go for it I'm cheering in the background.

If we are speculating, let's do it properly: I believe that if we could really take the time to explain to every user the type of improvements we are suggesting, the percentage would be much higher. If we reduce it to the pure essence of what we want, "Making music faster and easier", I doubt any sane Sonar user would be against it. In other words, 1,000,000 people support our efforts. We just lacked the time to call them all.

Undertow...you all reached me...I see a light


Meno...John Andres` Grande... "Sonar Pro Newbie"

Thanks, Meno! Your support is very much appreciated! And I agree, Undertow is very persuasive. :)

dontletmedrown


I sent the feature request along with a short personal letter.  I don't know if a purely canned response would be taken seriously.  It bugs the crap out of me when people send them to me.  LOOKING TO REFINANCE YOUR HOME?

Thanks, Dave! I'm glad you added a personal letter. I think that sends a strong message!

SongCraft

...wicked


Well, 8.5.2 just released, at least there's that.

OK! Let me explain it better

The idea is to 'Consolidate' ALL Cakewalk softsynths content into the ONE extremely powerful plugin., with the capability to load/Playback  ANY file format.  No need to mess around with multiple plugins within the project or risk dropouts and other errors due to third-party plugins, particularly freebies with poorly written code.

An extremely powerful Centralised Sample/Instrument Plugin.....

. Highly optimized handling/playback!  Also ideal for 'live' on stage use.

. Able to load/import 'any file format' ALL sound library content including NI, IK and others, with options for direct bounce from another plugin source (such as NI, IK or whatever), or via any audio track source...

. Unlimited Multi-Timbral ability! Can load unlimited instruments/parts with Unlimited Midi Chn and Output assigns (limited to PC capability).  For example on a Core i7 PC you could load up 128 instruments, ideal for building orchestral work, filmscoring all from just the ONE motherload of a massively powerful plugin.

. Further Optimised options for each part such as; reduce bit/sample rates, adjust polyphony.

. Very nice, integrated content browser!  Whatever sounds you have on your H/Drives can be accessed! The browser has options to organise, categorise, create new folders, remove files (does not permanently delete from the HD), delete user created folders.  Include a powerful search function and audio preview. (much like the file browser but totally integrated in this plugin)

. 16 Pads included where you can Auto-Map! A simple n quick 'one-click process' (simply select up to 16 sounds and click Auto-Map) and have those sounds accessible on the pads for rhythm/beat creation.  Also able to be triggered via hardware electronic drum kit/pads, and also Roland could develop an affordable hardware 16 Pad controller.

. Default screen displays a simplified sound editor that's ideal for quick edits, but with option for far more advance sound editing features such as; ADHSR, various Modulators, LFO's, advance Filters including the usual Resonance, Cut-Off, various velocity parameters, key-range, trim and stretch -(resampling), transpose, detune, fine-tune.   Amost all these parameters can also be controlled via Midi CC# Automation and via External Controllers.  Roland could develop hardware that perfectly integrates including foot-switches and small hand-held remote. Ideal for 'Live' on stage use.

. Integrated Vol and Pan parameters with dedicated FX's readily accessible via integrated FX-bin, include a new Pulse Effect (similar to an arpeggio, ideal for easily creating rhythms/motions/sweeps).  All these FX's parameteres can be controlled by Midi CC# Automation or via hardware controllers.

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YES now your talking similar to my idea for amp sim rack except it's a seperate host. The foot controller integration is key for me. The whole seperate host thing was kind of what P5 was and we could probably do with something  more useful along the lines of a kore mixed with cantabile and auto map by novation.  Alot of people need to use multiple computers to do work and having this on a seperate computer and being able to work over a network like fx teleport would be cool as hell because I want to get me a new computer and I sure don't want to reload all my soft synths and ampsims on the new i7. I want it to be my daw only.

From the help file:
Tip: To preview an audio file as a Groove Clip, hold down the ALT key and click the file. To preview all selected files as Groove Clips, hold down the ALT and click the Play button.

HTH

Tom

thanks, i'll have to try that out

Friendly bump for the record.

Haven't heard back from our friends at Cakewalk yet after sending the letter. Will update again when I hear from them!

Hope you all have a great holiday season and have all the inspiration you need to write your next killer piece of music!

Best, James

eratu


Friendly bump for the record.

Haven't heard back from our friends at Cakewalk yet after sending the letter. Will update again when I hear from them!

So I should start holding my breath now?

LOL!

Priceless.

I'm in

This is a great thread. I guess I'm late to the party as usual. I'm a heavy PRV user and would like to see the main "track view" changed so that the entire PRV can be instantiated in the entire right-hand panel of the track view. That means that the split between the buss portion and the track portion would not exist in the right-hand panel. As a matter of fact, I noticed a suggestion to make all track types equal track=bus, etc. This would obviate the need for the splitter. In any case, I'm looking for something like this, which is substantially different from what you get in the tabbed view:

Yes, Jose, that sure is a great idea. The track-by-track staff representation works exceptionally well. I'd be happy with that representation in place of the staff view.

In both cases, having all of the track controls--volume, pan, velocity, etc--available in the same view in which you're working beats the minimal "track list" thing that's currently on the PRV and staff view.

billp


This is a great thread. I guess I'm late to the party as usual. I'm a heavy PRV user and would like to see the main "track view" changed so that the entire PRV can be instantiated in the entire right-hand panel of the track view. That means that the split between the buss portion and the track portion would not exist in the right-hand panel. As a matter of fact, I noticed a suggestion to make all track types equal track=bus, etc. This would obviate the need for the splitter. In any case, I'm looking for something like this, which is substantially different from what you get in the tabbed view:

   +1,000,000,000,000,000,00

   This is one of the best idea's ever, so simple, so elegant, extremely practical as it allows greatly enhanced workflow, access to and from PRV to Track-View and option to view the Inspector also.  With this view I probably wouldn't need to open the mixer. 

   I love this idea, I want it!

   Also, keyboard shortcuts should apply as it would in the PRV in the above 'new' fantastic view.

  Use the split-screen the dev's will say!?!  Yeah right but it's nowhere near as good.  :-(

billp


Yes, Jose, that sure is a great idea. The track-by-track staff representation works exceptionally well. I'd be happy with that representation in place of the staff view.

In both cases, having all of the track controls--volume, pan, velocity, etc--available in the same view in which you're working beats the minimal "track list" thing that's currently on the PRV and staff view.

 
I think that if both of these get implemented, we would be in heaven :-)
 
To take these ideas to the next step, I think Cakewalk should start merging other views in a similar manner.  For example, as found on the request list, having the Tempo and Key/Meter Views available in a separate track above the Track View, like in Logic Pro, would also be great.  If we combine all of these, you can have up to 4 different Views in one screen (Track, PRV, Key/Meter, Tempo; OR Track, Staff, Key/Meter, Tempo).  The beauty is that all of these views are relevant to each other and this makes them easily accessible to the user.  No more stopping your work to get to the other Views.  Seemless workflow! 
 
So Cakewalk, when can we expect to see this? :-)
 
 
 
 

I'm glad you all like this. This was a compromise to my ultimate implementation, which would give us empty frames into which we could add visual "components", such as a video strip, the piano roll or staff, individual track elements or a complete "tracks" strip, etc. to the empty frame, dock them and orient them as we choose. Sort of a dynamic, build-it-yourself approach to what are now static views. Sort of like what Jose suggested above. I've written apps like this before and the up front development cost can be a bit high when you're reengineering and componentizing an existing system, especially one as complex as SONAR, but the payoff is huge.