Bub


HS-80m's here. Wouldn't trade them for the world.

I listened to a lot of different monitors doing a-b comparison and these by far had the most natural sound on pro mixes (store bought CD's), which is what we're all striving for.

Your room acoustics will effect the sound of a speaker a lot. If the room isn't right then you'll find yourself compensating for things that you hear and don't hear on any monitor.

6.5" is the ideal size for general use. Not too big not too small. (btw this isn't me making this up, this is through very deep research into this topic).

.if you're serious about spectrum full range go Adam A3x +Sub it will kill all other thing in that price range ....don't waist time with yamaha and all , those can't be the only pair you can have ....especaiilly without sub....

Crush

cornieleous

6.5" is the ideal size for general use. Not too big not too small. (btw this isn't me making this up, this is through very deep research into this topic).

Data to back this up? Research implies data, or proof.

Yes lots but I'm too lazy to get all of it. A lot of this information if from the home speaker builder community. 6.5 is the all around sweet spot for general audio like vocals and music. The 8" is an odd size that should not be used as a primary driver in my opinion and MANY others. Only when it's paired up with other drivers. 4-5's are very good for vocals and other ranges. Very good. Especially if you have paper cones. Vocals coming out of those might freak you out you think someone is in the room. But they lack bass of course. 6.5 is the sweet spot when you chose a good driver becuase 6.5's can sound too bassy, or sound too dry.

A lot of people like the 8's because it 'warms' the sound and is easier on the ears. This is called 'coloring' the sound (which most speakers do and it isn't a bad thing actually).  But I'm telling you if you are making music for average people they will not have 8" primary drivers so it could throw off you mix. Especially when you are doing crazy electronic music like me. I just don't recommend 8's unless paired with other smaller speakers (like three way's).

Here is the speakers I got . PLEASE LOOK AT THE B STOCK PRICE, and also note on the review how they rated the sound:

"I have worked in many studios with many diffrent speakers. but these top the cake. Very even from high to low. And the longer you have them, the better they sound. The best!"

"Sounds amazing. crystal clear in every register, and also exceptionally warm."

"The sound is extremely transparent, and rich with detail."

"These speakers deliver a clear and accurate audio image across the stereo spread. "

"Add me to the list of not just happy, but amazed owners! Seriously, if you are looking for powered monitors in this price range, there is nothing that comes close to the detail and accuracy these monitors exhibit. I listened to a lot of brands before deciding on these without the benefit of a listen. I could not be happier with my choice. These monitors may be one of Britain's best kept secrets but it is time to let the cat out of the bag. Listen to the others in this price range and then order a pair of these. You won't be disappointed!"

"Wow. Just wow. Its my first part of studio monitors, its only been an hour and the clarity is blowing me away."

"These Monitors show every flaw, the sound is superb"

"Really outstanding clarity / transparence. "

"Great stereo image, great mid range detail without hyper. nice smooth top end. A great sounding speaker without being overly "boring" or boxy like tannoy reveal,.,"

"In terms of sound, these are the best for their price range and, possibly, THE best you can get for under $1,000."

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But still you'll have to learn these speakers like any others and my opinion? Meh their studio 6.5's. They can go REALLY loud though. They are also larger than they like.. quite sizable.

Give me any studio 6.5's and I can work with them. Give me the most expensive, flattest, transparent pair and they will most likely throw off my mixes and I probably wouldn't like them.

There's some things to spend money on, and some things not to. I do NOT believe that studio monitors are something to spend a lot of money on cause they do not *improve* your mixes and save time cause either way you'll have to learn them. Just spot check with headphones for sound quality.

John


... its just that sometimes somethings get a little "thick" when someone is so wrong and insists that they are right. More importantly others may believe what he is saying.

Bub

John


... its just that sometimes somethings get a little "thick" when someone is so wrong and insists that they are right. More importantly others may believe what he is saying.

I know what you mean John, like when people come here and say X1 is working fine for them. Man that gets to me. :)

What you will have to do is learn how to mix with them. I never get it right the first time but I have learned how to use the different speakers to get it there or as close as I can. Again I am not an expert. oh, don't forget to listen to your mixes in your car too!!

stratman70

Bub

John


... its just that sometimes somethings get a little "thick" when someone is so wrong and insists that they are right. More importantly others may believe what he is saying.

I know what you mean John, like when people come here and say X1 is working fine for them. Man that gets to me. :)

Yup, you caught me-I am lying-Jeeezzz-Give me a break will ya.

mike_mccue


If you have a great set of monitors and know what you are doing you don't have to run around and listen to a mix on a bunch of other speakers to make a great mix.

You just mix.

Most folks that mix on cheap monitors have no actual idea what their mix sounds like on anything but cheap monitors.

It doesn't matter how many cheap monitors they use to not know what it sounds like on a great system... they just don't know.

Using cheap gear may be the best someone can do at any given time... more power to anyone trying to do what they can do!!! But, it is ridiculous to attempt to rationalize the practice as somehow better than actually knowing what your mix sounds like by using good stuff.

If you are rocking a powered pair of 40watt 6 inch speakers that are giving you everything they have... you basically have no idea what's going to happen on a real life system that can sit at 83dBSPL without breaking a sweat... and you certainly have no chance of understanding what is going to happen at 115dBSPL on a big bad system that actually produces a full range of sound.

Headphones are for isolating problems like string buzz and stuff... they are not a substitute for an authoritative and powerful playback system.

A great mix done on great speakers will always sound good on cheap speakers.

A *I think it's great* mix done on cheap speakers can present freakish sounds the *mixer* never even heard on the cheap speakers when it is played back on a good system. That kind of stuff can be downright embarrassing. It can make you seem ignorant.

That's just how it is.

The only reason to run around and listen to a mix on a bunch of cheap speakers is if you lack the confidence, experience, or suitable monitors to do it right the first time.

I wouldn't care enough to say anything about it but there is just too much make believe stuff being said to let it rest without dispute.

best regards,
mike