Comparing Sonar with Studio One

Sylvan

Jarsve
I have tried to open the same project in Studio One and I have to say that the sound of Studio One Sucks compared to Sonar. I mean. It sounds like it doesn't have any depth. And things sounds nasal and harsh. There is 2 different plugins from the original project that i couldn't use in S1. Breverb and REmatrix Solo. I have almost the same reverbs in REmatrix insted. That should not be that big of a deal right? It just sound like there is no dynamic. Sonar has so much more depth in the sound.
 
Any other found this?

I know exactly what you mean. I suspected I heard something different with Studio One so I started investigating. I ran some tests and came to the conclusion that SONAR sounds more open, deep, and clear. On my first test I can show exactly what I did and the results that prove there is a difference. I will run a stripped down more simple test soon to delve deeper on the subject.
 
But there is most definitely something to this.

Jarsve

Jeff Evans
Summing engine sounds great.. Their stock plugins are great.  Once you get to know them they easily slip into your go to choices when mixing.  Back that up with a good selection of well chosen third party plugins and you are in a very strong position.  Panning sounds nice in Studio One.  As soon as you move it, the image seems to appear quickly. 
 
You cannot have a DAW that has no bottom end!  It is a ludicrous statement.  In my setup Studio One simply faithfully reproduces in playback exactly what I am sending it.  I work with many synths too as well as kick drums and bass guitars etc.. I would notice pretty quick if the low end of the system was wrong.  They sound so fat and floor shaking in real life when I play them through the synth mixer and I am monitoring it directly.  On playback Studio One sounds exactly the same here for me anyway.  
 
The built in console emulation is very good and if you grab the Mix engine plugin add on such as the CTC-1 console emulator you get a choice of 3 amazing sounding consoles. The approach they have taken with console emulation is very good and it can sound great.  They have modelled basically the Neve and SSL sound and given you a custom option which is more like a very transparent mastering type console. The crosstalk options are also excellent.  Mixer and tape machine crosstalk can be dialled in.  It all helps to glue a mix real nice. 

It is not the base bottom end I talk about, but the dynamic bottom. it seems like it has cleaned much of warmth and ambience that makes the sound great. It sounds Sterile and not musical in my ears. Like it is hard to make the sound because of the lack of depth. You only hear the peak sound. Not what’s underneath.

Sylvan

sharke
Aside from DAW's whose whole point is to add a particular sound to a mix (i.e. Mixbus), nobody has ever been able to demonstrate conclusively that one DAW sounds different to another. All we ever have is subjective opinions (and we all know how unreliable they can be when it comes to judging two pieces of audio) and people claiming to have done tests and that they'll post the results "in due course" (but they never do). 
 

Greetings sharke,
 
If this is directed at me, let me point out that I have never made such claims before. I have always stayed away from those debates in the past. It wasn't until this terrible news that I started to seriously look at other DAWs. Since this is a part of my living I take it very seriously so I want to make sure I have the best tools  I can get.
 
Now that I have made that claim, you can absolutely be sure I will follow through with my tests and show them. I am sorry I cannot drop everything instantly and get right on this. I am a father, a husband, an IT worker and an audio engineer. I am just a little bit busy.
 
Now to the Studio One faithful, I get it. I understand when some outsider makes a claim that your DAW isn't the king on everything, it makes you want to come to it's defense. I know, because that was me with SONAR. I totally get it.
 
But please understand that I am joining in with Studio One. I am making it my DAW of the future. Since I don't have the built-in bias for it, I am coming in with a completely open mind. I saw or heard something that was a bit concerning and I just want to make sure that if there is an issue, that it gets addressed. That is my only motivation. I am now a licensed Studio One 3 Professional user now. Let's make it a great DAW.
 
And also know this. I am no saying Studio One sucks by any means. In fact I tried several DAWs and chose Studio One over all of them. I know great mixes can be made on it. I know there is a nice efficient workflow with it. I do hope for some other SONAR features to be implemented, but for now it is very nice. Everyone here that? I said Studio One is very nice. Do not make an enemy out me. I just want it to be as best as it can be. If you are saying it cannot be improved at all ever, you are not doing any great service to Studio One.
 
I will run my tests again and see what comes of it. I WILL post my findings/results/ etc... If my tests prove nothing than so be it. I will accept that. If there is something... lets find out what it is and if there is something that can be done about it.