"Mixing Hip Hop is not true musical talent..... it is simply pseudo apparitions of musical talent. Do yourself and society as a whole a favor..... pursue real music..... it's not to be found in Hip Hop." perhaps you haven't been paying attention to the right kinds of hip hop. There is a ton of musicality in hip hop especially current hip hop. Check out The Roots for example. A lot of Dr Dre, Dj Quik and Battle Cats work. Westcoast hip hop more often than not are just funk records with raps on top.

If you don't like hip hop why enter a discussion about it? Harassing this guy about it just makes you look like an ass

"making it" due to deceptive practices is dishonesty.

 
 
what has ever been deceptive and especially dishonest in HipHop?????
 
it has always adressed the same lies that you are accusing it of.. Im str8 out offended..
 
 
 
 
 

I'm certainly not pigeon holing anyone and I'm not saying all hip hop is bad. I will listen to anything if it is done well.  And, while it is true that difficulty or skill does not determine desireablity, neither does desireability determine quality.

I love candy and ice cream but that's not going to sustain my body in any good way.  That's exactly what most popular music is. Ear candy. And like sugar candy rots your teeth, ear candy rots your brain(IMHO). Music for dancing is all good and well, but I personally think there is more to music than making you want to shake your booty.

That's what defines a good _______act for me. If it makes you groove too, even better.

the sad thing is if i would of have asked "How do i get that Zepplin Sound" folks would have bombarded the thread with Eddie Kramer, John Bonnham's kit and thier mic choices, and old school compressors....and knew the whole history..and its a shame that alot of the things they did are based on things, that were not well recorded by, down & out drunk and angry Black Guys.. 

 down & out drunk and angry Black Guys.. 

aleef

Uh huh..... no bias or bigotry here...... not intentional anyway.....  have I got that right?

"Yes..... perhaps you're right. So you do agree with me then? There happens to be wrong kinds of hip hop? What exactly differentiates the right kinds from the wrong kinds? Please, don't be biased in your answer as I have been accused of being. Apparently, some folks here don't appreciate opposing opinions. BTW..... I will discuss whatever topic I want to join in on..... just because I don't happen to "like" the topic should by no means be construed that I am not qualified to discuss the topic. PEACE " No I don't agree with you at all. I love hip hop as an art form but it is many different things depending on what kind of hip hop you are listening to. It can be as musical or as minimalist as you want it to be but judging by your other posts on the topic you really don't have the slightest clues as to what you are talking about on the genre as a whole. It would be different if you had an educated opinion on the matter but you don't it would be like me saying country music is just a bunch of old boring drunk guys crying about their cat dying when I don't really listen to country all that often. Also why speak on a topic that you do not like? This guy was asking for help you are just being a jerk about it. Way to kick a guy while he's down. Good job I hope you feel better.

Fer realz. I kind of heart this thread for revealing all of it though.

I'm not a particularly big hip hop fan, but certainly it's not ONLY a legit music form but also a HUGE money making opportunity. Anybody who thinks different is just bitter. 

Elaborate please.

I expect most hip hop acts couldn't care less aout the skepticism of some parts of the audience. 

I don't really understand it but I love me some good Rap/Hip Hop...maybe because I relate to these things on a visceral level. It moves the body and the mind.

The oldest record I have from its progenitors might be the Last Poets one. It reminds me of some of the Beat Poets. To me it is poetry with music...and, yes, beats are very much a part of the music.

Last Poets were great. You should try to check out The Watts Prophets too, same era, similar kind of idea. 

I dunno about that. You can have an opinion on stuff you don't enjoy. Less so on something you're obviously not well acquainted with. You're right that it sounds like old dudes moaning though. 

I got a letter from the Cakewalk the other day. I open and read it, it said they were suckers. They wanted me to use Beatscape or what ever. Picture me doing that, I said never. 

Bass! How low can you go? When you're down there, do you notice that the Sonar audio engine is muddy between 70 and 200hz?