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DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A

I AM USING FL STUDIO FOR BEAT MAKING, IS THERE A SITE WERE THEY TEACH YOU STEP TO STEP OR ANYTHING , IT IS GETTING FUSTRATING  HIP HOP BEATS!!
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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 01:49:16 (permalink)
    Where do you live? There is a magazine in the UK called 'Computer Music', which has an article on making Hip Hop this month.
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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 01:51:04 (permalink)
    Don't feed the trolls.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 02:39:48 (permalink)
    There is an abundance of them on Youtube. The important thing to remember with hip hop that many don't realize its all about the groove and picking the right sounds. Also you may be better going to a forum with Fruity Loops users if you are using FruityLoops. If you need any more music production tips check out KevWestBeats.com


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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 02:50:06 (permalink)
    Its a 4 step process: follow these steps and Jay Z will be rapping to your beats in no time.

    Step 1. Use your imagination to create an Intro, Verse, Hook, Pre Hook and Outro
    Step 2. Refer to step 1
    Step 3. Refer to step 2
    Step 4. Refer to step 3

    Staples has an Easy button when are you can just press one button and create the next #1 hit. You can try there also, but i prefer my steps.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 03:08:17 (permalink)
    Mixing Hip Hop is not true musical talent..... it is simply pseudo apparitions of musical talent. Do yourself and society as a whole a favor..... pursue real music..... it's not to be found in Hip Hop. 

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 04:11:46 (permalink)
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    Mixing Hip Hop is not true musical talent..... it is simply pseudo apparitions of musical talent. Do yourself and society as a whole a favor..... pursue real music..... it's not to be found in Hip Hop. 

    Man. I totally appreciate where your coming from but let's just appreciate the differences. I don't like Hip Hop either but the world would be a boring place if everyone liked the same thing.
     
    There's good and bad in all forms of art. Some people make art out of collage. Some people are actually good at it. I think it's hokey, but people buy it. I suppose there are people good at paint by numbers too, but let them have that. If that's as far as creativity goes, good for them. 
    It's just that statements like the one you posted can be taken in a very bad way very quickly.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 04:18:26 (permalink)
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    Mixing Hip Hop is not true musical talent..... it is simply pseudo apparitions of musical talent. Do yourself and society as a whole a favor..... pursue real music..... it's not to be found in Hip Hop. 


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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 05:06:33 (permalink)
    Was that loops though? That sounded like real musicians to me. A worthy listin. Thanks for posting. 

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 05:14:25 (permalink)
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    Was that loops though? That sounded like real musicians to me. A worthy listin. Thanks for posting. 


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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 06:17:52 (permalink)
    "Mixing Hip Hop is not true musical talent..... it is simply pseudo apparitions of musical talent. Do yourself and society as a whole a favor..... pursue real music..... it's not to be found in Hip Hop." The RZA of the wu tang clan, said himself that up until about 1997 he couldnt of told you wat a "c" chord was, but between the years of 1993 and 1997, he must of produced about 7/8 multi platnum sellng albums, do the maths there
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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 06:42:44 (permalink)
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    Mixing Hip Hop is not true musical talent..... it is simply pseudo apparitions of musical talent. Do yourself and society as a whole a favor..... pursue real music..... it's not to be found in Hip Hop. 

    Man. I totally appreciate where your coming from but let's just appreciate the differences. I don't like Hip Hop either but the world would be a boring place if everyone liked the same thing.
     
    There's good and bad in all forms of art. Some people make art out of collage. Some people are actually good at it. I think it's hokey, but people buy it. I suppose there are people good at paint by numbers too, but let them have that. If that's as far as creativity goes, good for them. 
    It's just that statements like the one you posted can be taken in a very bad way very quickly.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 08:08:54 (permalink)
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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 08:42:22 (permalink)
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    Its a 4 step process: follow these steps and Jay Z will be rapping to your beats in no time.

    Step 1. Use your imagination to create an Intro, Verse, Hook, Pre Hook and Outro
    Step 2. Refer to step 1
    Step 3. Refer to step 2
    Step 4. Refer to step 3

    Staples has an Easy button when are you can just press one button and create the next #1 hit. You can try there also, but i prefer my steps.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 08:48:37 (permalink)
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    Mixing Hip Hop is not true musical talent..... it is simply pseudo apparitions of musical talent. Do yourself and society as a whole a favor..... pursue real music..... it's not to be found in Hip Hop. 
     
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    Its a 4 step process: follow these steps and Jay Z will be rapping to your beats in no time.

    Step 1. Use your imagination to create an Intro, Verse, Hook, Pre Hook and Outro
    Step 2. Refer to step 1
    Step 3. Refer to step 2
    Step 4. Refer to step 3

    Staples has an Easy button when are you can just press one button and create the next #1 hit. You can try there also, but i prefer my steps.
     
    Refering to the comments above....
    While I agree that this question would probably have been better served in a FL forum ... I find these approaches .... interesting.  I have read very informative posts from CJ and at first glance found the post amusing ...  until I realized that there lacked any attempt to address the question. My impression went then from light humor to sarcastic disdain based upon some unknown (unknown to me). However I could be in error in my impressions and if so I digress my comment.
     
    The first post however... is somewhtat offensive.  Offensive in what is overtly implied about the music genre (Folks in the 50s felt the same way about Rock, R&B ect) and offensive  in what is covertly expressed (at least to me) about the posters mindset (relating to the reasons folks in the 50s felt the way they did about the music genre's).
     
    I am not sure who decides what is talent and what is not or what is music and what is not.. But I am absolutely convinced that it is not a poster in a DAW forum.  May the apprecation and respect of deltas and differences shine throught the mire of intolerance and myopic boundaries.



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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 08:50:12 (permalink)
    To say that hip hop is not "real music" I think is to look with prejudice on what is arguably an art form. 

    I personally do not like it, don't listen to it, but appreciate the talent and skill needed to do it correctly. 

    As an experiment a few weeks back I decided to create something from the loops that came with X1. All I did was string together some wave samples and this is the result>>> http://www.soundclick.com...84&songID=11450431

    It took a bit of thought, and creativity to do this. And it was fun as well as interesting and educational.  The goal there was to use loops and not do anything that required a live keyboard..... I did play a simple one finger half & whole note synth line..... you hear it at the very beginning....through out and it's the last music in the end.... but it could easily have been moused in with staff or PRV. 


    For the OP.... I have seen a number of talented folks on youtube with a sequencer (DAW like X1) and a few synths and a small keyboard and they create some pretty cool things in a matter of a few minutes. 

    I'd search there if I was looking for instruction and guidance. 

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 08:59:13 (permalink)
    i write beats for kids in my hood who think they can sing.
     it takes about 5 min out of my life to bake a 4 min song.
    i know there art is in there words , and there is nothing ground breaking going on in the  hip hop beat world.
     wash beat, rince with new words,done hip hop 101

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 09:04:44 (permalink)
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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 16:32:05 (permalink)
      armour - that is one hell of an ignorant and misinformed comment you made. i am pretty confident you have no idea what you are talking about. On the mixing side of things you only have to look at some of the top professionals in the industry to get an idea of the skill and talent involved. Dave Pensado, and Pensado's place may teach you a thing or two. Ken Lewis does an incredible job of sample recreation, and musical arrangement for Kanye. On the production side of things, it can involve just about every genre and musician imaginable. While you may not enjoy the genre as a whole, it is extremely close minded of you to not appreciate it as music.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 16:53:57 (permalink)
    Your best bet is to experiment and then experiment some more. I'm assuming you can come up with ideas just by singing them and such the like. You'll just have to keep at it.

    I don't like hip hop but I don't disrespect it. If you disrespect one form of music/art then you disrespect them all.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 16:58:37 (permalink)
    I WILL SAY THAT HIP HOP HAVE A LITTLE OF EVERYTHING , SO THERE IS NO LIMIT TO WHAT CAN BE DONE,
    you can sample  grass grow and get it in a loop. it takes work and effort and some talent to write the flows. and beats

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 17:52:27 (permalink)
    I don't personally care for Hip Hop as music (at least, not most of it). But as a working event-videographer I've developed an appreciation and respect for Hip Hop dancing. I enjoy watching a group of dancers make the same, complex moves at the same time. It reflects a good amout of practice and commitment.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 18:46:12 (permalink)
    to the OP. i think 1st you should identify with what style of "Hip-Hop" you want to make. there are many! find out who produces the style that you like and study them a little bit then put your own touch on that style. are you going to use samples? i think hip-hop is like any other style in that you have to feel it. i think alot of forum members dont agree with the negative messages being presented in main stream hip-hop but there are others like myself who bring a different light or message if you will to hip-hop. (Check my link below and have a listen to "One More Day") i have FL but i prefer to use Sonar for making Hip-Hop. FL is a pattern based sequencer but you can do that and more in Sonar, plus mixing is far more superior in Sonar so i just do it all here. some vst's were mentioned but i'd highly recommend adding Geist to your arsenal! it will take care of all of your drum needs and what ever drums you dont have you can just sample them. if i can help you be "productive" in anyway, get at me!

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 18:59:55 (permalink)
    To those who feel my comments were harsh, offensive, and came from a musically uneducated source that knows nothing about what he talks about.... I truly apologize if your feelings were hurt.
    If you agree with my statements..... then thanks for understanding and supporting my viewpoints.
    I am not against ANY musical genre....  I feel those that simply take someone else's musical talents, mixes them up, and refers to them as their own musical composition are doing nothing to enhance and encourage the individuals TRUE musical talent. Grab a rock, a stick, or pots and pans if that's what it takes to play an INSTRUMENT. That my friends.... is true musical talent.
    My point being is, if we resort to expecting others to provide the medium..... then those providing the medium will become extinct.
    Whatever it is you decide on.....  enjoy it. I would never want you to NOT enjoy what it is you do. Let's not defeat the gene pool wherein we eventually remove the true roots of musicianship.
    And yes....  I'm an old fart.... if I was my age in the 50's instead of being born then, I would have thought that Rock & Roll was a fad that would eventually go away.
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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 19:20:08 (permalink)
    I don't listen to a lot of hip hop but some of the, "good stuff" is extremely talented in both the lyrical and rhythmic sense and as for sampling other peoples music I have mixed feelings about that, I mean you can totally reinvent and create something quite different and wonderful by mixing up others peoples tunes but I sadly that's not the norm I know. I don't know what samples THIS came from but I can think of no finer example right now of what I call, "the good stuff".
    It's not just hip hop that steals other peoples tunes either but perhaps it was pioneered by hip hop. 

     
    What I abhor most in some of the stuff I hear is the rampant gratuitous, homophobia, misogyny,
    racism, sexism and violent macho **** (Cow dung?) but then I hear a lot of that in heavy metal too. 

    This is by no means hip hop but uses a sample from Bowies "suffragette City" to great effect although the timing is slightly adrift.

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 19:23:35 (permalink)
    Since when did banging out the most overused set of progressions ever, twanging strings attached to a plank with it's signal passed through the most elemental examples of early electronics become a qualification to speak on behalf of a musical community.

    There are many mansions in the musical kingdom, traditional methods all eventually pass into the passe.  Being stuck in a groove is just a cool sounding way of falling into a rut. Whether it's collage or paint, whatever gets produced is down to the artist.

    As an old friend once told me. "You ain't the nazz, you're just a buzz, some kind of temporary".

    Here, have a bang on this.....

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 19:30:35 (permalink)

    As an old friend once told me. "You ain't the nazz, you're just a buzz, some kind of temporary".

    Here, have a bang on this.....

    Well said that man.
    This old friend wouldn't have been a Mr Ziggy Stardust would he?
    I believe Mr Bowie claimed he was "the Nazz" 

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 19:57:46 (permalink)
    @ John Amour

    I'm sorry I haven't taken offence I just can't stop laughing, it is difficult for us gentlemen of a certain vintage.

    We were the only generation that didn't take into account that by rebelling against our parents telling us to grow-up all that's happened is that we've ended up with kids that are telling us to grow up even now.

    I feel for you man, but trust me it's better just to embrace the ol' curmudgeon badge and wear it with pride rather than keep fighting it.  I've saved myself the spectre of walking down the street in a leather jacket and drainpipe jeans thinking how cool I am in my head while the neighbours are laughing at the eccentric ol' buffoon strutting his stuff still by wising up some. (Hopefully... )

    It came as a shock at first but now I'm getting quite content with the fact that my parents were right about 'rock 'n roll'.  It ain't real music...but I like it.

    The kids are alright, especially when I give them my love instead of my ideas.  They seem to be making out better than I did anyway....

    Apologies to the OP also I clearly don't have a clue how to answer your question, I'm just here for the menopausal moment.

    Great thread though, it's cheered this ol' man up no end.
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/03/10 20:11:39

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    Re:DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE HIP HOP BEATS??? AND HOW DID YOU LEARN? A 2012/03/10 20:02:14 (permalink)
    The most amazing thing about hip hop, to me, is how the producers can sit thru the same monotonous beat and parts for hours and days and weeks and months  on end as they "create", and still come out at the end with cool (to some) freshness. Really, it would and does drive me nuts listening to the same thing over and over and over again. I think that's an artform.

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