vintagevibe

Anderton
4. Sun collapses into a dwarf star. All life on earth ends. Forums become irrelevant.

Wow.  My next post could be the end of human kind.  That's a lot of pressure! 

thomasabarnes

mudgel
Noel's already explained that the way ARA works is not useful in something like notation either in entering MIDI data via notation or exporting a score via notation. ARA has a look ahead function for existing AUDIO data and that's how it works. At least that's my layman's understanding of what Noël said.

Hi Mudgel: In case you were replying to one of my posts: You may be misunderstanding me. What I'm saying is it would be great if Cakewalk could innovate some implementation embedded in SONAR whereby using the professional notation software ( such as Finale and Sibelius) in SONAR would be integrated as good as Cakewalk integrated ARA in SONAR to use the Celemony Melodyne software. And if Cakewalk could innovate such an implementation it would perhaps be easier to do that than to make a revision to the Staff View in an attempt to appease the years of user requests to update SONAR to have better and more professional notation features. This may be something that is super hard to do, but I'm just entertaining the thought. And, I still would like to see the Cakewalk MP3 Encoder updated to include an option for Average Bit Rate encoding, and if Cakewalk does that, they may as well, update to the most recent version of LAME version 3.99.5.

lawp
while I agree that the bang for buck is great for a user who doesn't have many 3rd party plugs already, I think the bundled stuff distracts from the daw itself

kitekrazy

lawp
while I agree that the bang for buck is great for a user who doesn't have many 3rd party plugs already, I think the bundled stuff distracts from the daw itself

 Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. 

Anderton
Not to drag this out any further, but here's how it works on the Interwebz. 1. Person A's post is misinterpreted as being out of line.2. Persons B, C, D, and E jump on Person A for being out of line.3. Person A, not realizing what he said could be considered out of line by rational people, gets defensive and attacks persons B, C, D, and E.4. Loop steps 2-3 multiple times. There are only four possible endings. 1. Deterioration into giant flame war. Moderator closes thread.2. Realization by one or more parties that things have gotten out of control. Apologies. Group hug.3. Person A really is a jerk and was not misinterpreted. If same crap continues to happen, person A gets banned eventually4. Sun collapses into a dwarf star. All life on earth ends. Forums become irrelevant. 

CakeAlexS

kitekrazy

lawp
while I agree that the bang for buck is great for a user who doesn't have many 3rd party plugs already, I think the bundled stuff distracts from the daw itself

 Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. 

Please let me know what plugin you would like as your prize (actually scratch that all you need is a cassette recorder).

CakeAlexS
Oh for heaven sake please lock the thread before I do something stupid :)

Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]

John
I would hope that the Staff View gets an upgrade soon. I think it will add a lot more to the value of the X series. 

I understand. We know this has been requested but there's a lot more involved. We'll discuss it of course.

mettelus
As far as "bait and switch" with Melodyne...
   1) Melodyne Essential will suit many user's needs without the upgrade to Editor.
   2) The upgrade to Editor was a bargain as well ($150 versus $300).
   3) Melodyne released a patch to improve the ARA functionality (with X3) so this partnership is a great one. X3 coming out of the chute with ARA on board and it being as nice as it is is rather impressive to me.

Jim Roseberry
 
I wouldn't base the decision to upgrade to X3 on "additional content"... but rather the improvements/enhancements to Sonar itself.
VST3, ARA, Colors, and Comping are all solid improvements that make hour-to-hour use of Sonar a better experience.  If those things are useful to you, then the $149 upgrade is easily justified.