I believe the problems were fixed by 3.1 (which my copy is). One of the issues I remember reading was that it would ask for reauthorization on even the most trivial system changes, including changing your monitor resolution.

Hi Steve-

But this is getting away from the Sonar 6 frenzy, how can anyone resist such a deal?

You're right; sorry to go OT. But where's the SE6 box?

-Susan

My copy of Sonar 5 upgrade was ordered already three weeks ago and hasn't reached me yet. I got all the registration numbers and so on but the product is missing. Have you any idea if there could be any problem with the shipping in general?

EDIT: I live in Finland so I suppose that the copy is coming from Ireland.

I think the new features should be made public.
Ableton has a similar campaign, they are oferring free update to Live 6 if you buy Live 5. And all the new features are public, there are even promotional videos. I am tempted, as I own a Digidesign Lite Edition and the upgrade to the full version is not that much..

I can remember a couple of people ****in' and mounin' around about the challenge/response-copy protection, support, bugfixing,... it is a long time ago I don`t know the details anymore. It was annoying, especially since I had no problem at all
But I just used it for very uncritical missions, I used vsampler more as soundfont-player....

A lot of people were upset about it, me included. Cakewalk was always free of C/R copy protection schemes, and the VSampler one caught a lot of people off guard. Fortunately the problem was addressed and fixed--due to the deluge of people's complaints who *were* annoyed.

If you are annoyed by other people being annoyed that certainly doesn't annoy me.

Hi all-

Maybe it's posted here or somewhere and I missed it, but is there anything about upgrading to SP5 from SE5 and getting SP6 free going that route?

Thanks-

-Susan

ORIGINAL: HansDampf

I think the new features should be made public.

We all want that, don`t we? I don`t know when Ableton exactly announced the new features, but Live 6 will come in September so it is no surprise to me that the features are announced in August. Maybe the same will happen for Sonar 6. I don`t remember the way it was last year with the timespan between announcement and shipping, but I expect Sonar 6 to arrive in October. So we may see some announcement in 2 weeks or so. Hopefully.

And Samplitude 9 is coming out soon. There is lots of competition for my upgrade dollars. That's why Ineed to know what's in Sonar 6. I'm sure some things will be included or excluded in the final code as it get's close to crunch time, so I could understand not making any promises about features in 6. But come on, I can't upgrade just because it's the latest.

Cake, I hope you post something within the next 5 days.

OK, I've been doing a little searching and I actually found a place where I can get Sonar 5 PE for the same price as in the states. This may have been covered before but if I buy it here (in Denmark) can I still get the version 6 upgrade free or is it only for the US (I know the rebate is only US). Think I saw a post from Australia where they could get the upgrade free.

Hi Bill-

I'd call them, Susan.

Yes, that's what I'll do. I just figured with the flood of calls they're apparently getting I'd save us both some time if it was already posted and I missed it.

Thanks-

-Susan

I think we're losing the plot here. Sonar 6 has not been officially announced and that is why there is no feature list. I expect Cakewalk will do exactly what most other software vendors do and offer free upgrades for new purchases of Sonar 5 once Sonar 6 is announced.

What we are seeing here is simply a separate marketing excercise, where Cakewalk is offering a discount (in this case a free upgrade to 6 under circumstances where a free upgrade is not normally given) in order to get new customers or to tempt people to upgrade. The people who take up the offer are taking a gamble that Sonar 6 will be of benefit to them against the extra period of time they will have the use of Sonar 5. If the feature set of Sonar 6 is that important then wait till its announced, you'll get the free upgrade anyway, you just won't get the extra time with Sonar 5.

Nobody is going to benefit if the vendors give up providing inovative ways of discounting their products due to bad publicity.

ORIGINAL: Bill OConnell

ORIGINAL: neonknight

I think the new features should be made public.
Ableton has a similar campaign, they are oferring free update to Live 6 if you buy Live 5. And all the new features are public, there are even promotional videos. I am tempted, as I own a Digidesign Lite Edition and the upgrade to the full version is not that much..

I agree, Cakewalk *should* tell people what they are getting when they make an offer, IMO. Just because an offer seems very generous, doesn't make someone an ingrate for questioning it.

The "free" item is the motivator the makes the deal so attractive. So what exactly *is* this free item? All "Sonar 6" says is the version coming after Sonar 5.

I agree, Cakewalk *should* tell people what they are getting when they make an offer, IMO. Just because an offer seems very generous, doesn't make someone an ingrate for questioning it.

The "free" item is the motivator the makes the deal so attractive. So what exactly *is* this free item? All "Sonar 6" says is the version coming after Sonar 5.

As President Bush would likely say: "God wants all forums to be free."

Bush probably doesn't know what a forum is, and he was probably talking in the subjective anyway

On a serious note though, I am currently looking at scoring to video and S5PE isn't really sufficiently well developed to be used seriously for this - either feature-wise or bug-wise. However, if I were to told that S6PE could offer somewhat more by way of features (possibly) or bug-fixes (necessary) then I would hang around and avoid taking on a cross-grade offer for an alternative product - specifically for this purpose.

However, there's no guarantees that such offers will always be around or as financially attractive, which leads me to ask about S6PE in a general sense

All the best,

Brendan.

ORIGINAL: hellogoodbye

ORIGINAL: techtim
If the feature set of Sonar 6 is that important then wait till its announced, you'll get the free upgrade anyway, you just won't get the extra time with Sonar 5.

That's not true. By the time Cakewalk tells us what's in Sonar 6 you won't be able to benefit from the deal anymore: by then you will only be able to upgrade to or buy Sonar 6 (and not Sonar 5 anymore) and that will cost a lot more.

That's my problem: Cakewalk is tricking their customers into gambling. Shall I save money and buy now, with the chance I might be disappointed by the new version, or shall I play safe, wait and spend more money if Sonar is okay OR save a lot of money when Sonar 6 is not what I want?

They REALLY let us gamble, which isn't very nice imho.

That is not correct. You don`t buy Sonar 6 right now, you buy the upgrade to 5. The price of this update is the same as 2-3 month ago. But now you also get Sonar 6 automatically. If you still are on 3, you can now upgrade not only to 5, but also to 6 for the same 179 bucks. That is a fair deal. Period.

Hi Esen.

If not too expensive maybe try giving them a call to explore your options.

All the best (and good luck),

Brendan.

EDIT: Having tried contacting Cakewalk online on four separate occasions without success, it could be that phoning them is your best and only option in view of the time constraints. Worked for me

Someone wrote:

> My point is very simple. Don't say, "I deserve to get V6 for free too", because no-one
> is getting V6 for free. It's marketing spin. You pay for V6 and they give you an
> essentially worthless version of V5 while you wait.

I just got my Sonar 5 and the disk appears to be a blank DVD-R!!!!! Now that's what I call worthless!!!!

Others have pointed out that Sonar 5 is buggy. Some have even reverted to Sonar 4.

Based on this, I guess I should consider myself lucky that the blank DVD prompted me to check out what other users. Has anyone else had the problem of getting a blank DVD?

ok I bought producer in july never recieved an e mail or anything about this
and I registered it and everything..am I getting my free upgrade?