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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/08 12:59:39 (permalink)
Hi Carl-
Susan, your initial thoughts on this were correct. The Surround version of the Lexicon Pantheon is not included in SONAR 6 Producer Edition. The Stereo version of the Lexicon Pantheon is still included.

And of course if you have SONAR 4 or 5 Producer Edition, and you keep the Pantheon Surround Reverb installed you can continue to use it in SONAR 6.

Thanks for the clarification.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/08 13:21:55 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: hydemusic

A few points... It looks like Cakewalk should rename Sonar 6 PE to just Sonar PE and charge $179. as your yearly license renewal. Symantec and Zone Alarm and the other software companies do. In reality it's the same thing...musicians aren't stupid but yet Cakewalk and most other audio companies seem to think we are like children and "got to have it now daddy" syndrome.



Please take this as the joke it is: What drugs are you on?

Seriously: Nobody, really nobody forces you to buy the upgrade. If you think the features of the upgrade are worth the price and learning curve, then buy it. If you don`t think so, then let it be. It`s your choice. With a license renewal-program you would have to. Also the upgrade offers of Cakewalk include not only the last version of Sonar, but the one before also to the same price. You pay $179 if you own Sonar 5 or Sonar 4. So you could skip one year/version without paying more. And if you can wait for some special offer like that in August you could jump from 3 to 6 for example. And even if you did so, you can keep your old version installed as long as you want or have the time to learn the new one.

Having said that, I would appreciate the possibility to join a rental program like Samplitude does. Especially the ones that run a business with Sonar can save taxes that way.


With Sonar5 PE, I always have to open a midi channel and an audio channel and set the parameters on each one.
I'm not trying to compare the two products and both have their places.


If you are opening a new synth there is a dialog with checkboxes offering you the possibility to create the appropriate MIDI and synth tracks automatically. So this functionality is there. The other way around you are right: If you close a synth those tracks remain and you have to delete them manually. At least as far as I know....

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/08 16:28:35 (permalink)
and when should we realistically expect our Free S6 upgrades to arrive ?
How will we be notified ?
Thanks

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/11 15:30:55 (permalink)
The lack of response to this question makes me wonder if sonar 6 will be dongled, paced, etc... or some such funny business. I hope this is not the case.

jam

Edit... found the answer... Great job Sonar!
post edited by jamminji - 2006/09/11 15:54:37

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/11 16:03:47 (permalink)
Hi jam-
The lack of response to this question makes me wonder if sonar 6 will be dongled, paced, etc... or some such funny business. I hope this is not the case.

I'm not sure why you would say that, since there was a reply from Carl Jacobsen about this just a little while ago: "You can expect the same level of copy protection that we had in Version 5."

-Susan

Edit: Sorry, jam, I was on the phone when you apparently found that, and sent the post off anyway!
post edited by Susan G - 2006/09/11 16:20:06

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/11 16:40:19 (permalink)
lol...No problem Susan... I ws just going to delete the post, but then thought that someone might have read it already, like you...;-), and wonde what I was talking about.

jam

ORIGINAL: Susan G

Hi jam-
The lack of response to this question makes me wonder if sonar 6 will be dongled, paced, etc... or some such funny business. I hope this is not the case.

I'm not sure why you would say that, since there was a reply from Carl Jacobsen about this just a little while ago: "You can expect the same level of copy protection that we had in Version 5."

-Susan

Edit: Sorry, jam, I was on the phone when you apparently found that, and sent the post off anyway!


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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/17 07:56:12 (permalink)
Also, although Cakewalk have decided not to reveal the forthcoming feature set (which I understand to a degree to maintain a competitive edge), can you please tell me whether Sonar 6 will offer significant added features and bug fixes over 5 when scoring to video?


Thanks in advance.

Brendan



Carl.

Are you now able to offer anything further regarding the above enquiry about bug-fixes? I note that the Cakewalk collage features an illustration of scoring to video though I recently fell foul of various bugs in Sonar 5 Pro when attempting this.

Thanks,

Brendan.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/17 11:05:57 (permalink)
It is kind of funny. There are alot of people over at the Samplitude website upset about the upgrade pricinf policy too... Samml world I guess
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RE: ATTN: Carl Jacobson 2006/09/17 11:31:55 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: bluespoet

BTW, when you born in August of 1972, I was humping sand dunes with a full field pack and a heavy M1 WW2 rifle in basic training for the US Army


Boy I love these condesending comments from the old to the young. I guess I'm the same age as bluespoet and I remember fogies telling me similar things about stomping through the sand at Midway. So for all you younguns out there, if you get this kind of guff just reply like one young man did to me a few years ago, "And I'll be paying for your stinkin' social security check while you sit on the couch in your diaper no longer being productive old man" I've kept my big mouth shut since then.
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RE: ATTN: Carl Jacobson 2006/09/17 14:04:34 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: CAW
"And I'll be paying for your stinkin' social security check while you sit on the couch in your diaper no longer being productive old man"



Snappy reply #1: "You bet your a$$ so shut up and get back to work!".

Snappy reply #2: "And who's gonna pay for your ss check, punk?".


So, when's that Free upgrade comin'?
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/18 12:37:05 (permalink)
Please give us the bug fixes alone for SonarPE5. I dont want new features now. I will order my copy when sonar 7 is ready. Please dont ask a price for bug fixes. I dont want to be a guinea pig for trying out new versions and dont want to be a beta tester for new versions.

I hope the cakewalk will give us the bug fixes seperately as upgrade 5.3

Thanks

KMA
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/18 14:17:16 (permalink)
Hi KMA.

From the absence of response it looks like Cakewalk don't want to elaborate upon bug-fixes.

I first asked about this weeks ago, and then again five days ago. If paying customers can't get a heads-up on bug-fixes in new (sold) releases, then I doubt there'll be much support for customers not wishing to lay more money on the table. I'm waiting for an answer but it currently looks as though bug-sufferers are on their own.

Carl, Anyone! - Could you please reply regarding bug fixes in Sonar 6, and possible updates for Sonar 5 users? Surely this is possible with the feature-set disclosed and the release date imminent.


Brendan.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/18 15:58:22 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: brendantownsend
From the absence of response it looks like Cakewalk don't want to elaborate upon bug-fixes.

I first asked about this weeks ago, and then again five days ago. If paying customers can't get a heads-up on bug-fixes in new (sold) releases, then I doubt there'll be much support for customers not wishing to lay more money on the table. I'm waiting for an answer but it currently looks as though bug-sufferers are on their own.


Have patience. You can be sure that lots of bugs have been fixed in SONAR 6. And a few new ones added in there too . I would think that a whole load more have been fixed since the final release version of SONAR 6, and are just waiting to be released in a new 6.01 patch. And some poor programmer somewhere will have the miserable task of back-porting some of those bug fixes to SONAR 5, to keep people like you happy. But I wouldn't expect Cakewalk to make loud announcements like 79 bugs fixed in SONAR 6 as this is tantamount to admitting that SONAR 5 was bug-ridden. So wait for the early adopters to post their findings in the next few weeks and you will soon know what has been fixed and what hasn't.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/18 19:38:37 (permalink)
Thanks Mark.

Yes, I understand entirely what you are saying about the likelihood of many bug-fixes, though my question related to scoring to video. Regarding fixes to Sonar 5, I was just reiterating KMA's comments, though I am more of a paying upgrader myself for software that I enjoy and can run with

When I discovered very significant bugs it became almost unuseable as a serious video scoring tool, though the relatively few responses that I had merely confirmed my findings and similar opinions of others using Sonar 5 in the same way. However, the collage clearly shows Sonar 6 with the video bar - implying that it is also a useable video editing tool.

It's a real shame as for musical applications in general it's fantastic, though if someone were to confirm something like "Yes, we have improved upon video scoring features and addressed a number of reported issues" then that would be enough for me. For example, when you place markers to identify the starting frames when normally viewing video thumbnails, and simply changing/adding tempo results in many scattered markers duplicated dozens of times over (many with the same time, and others at different times), then anything to suggest that such fundamental issues have been improved upon would be great.

As you say - just a case of watch and hope I suppose


All the best,

Brendan.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/18 21:03:36 (permalink)
Carl,

I received my Sonar Producer 5 upgrade a few days ago that I purchased from directly Cakewalk to get the free upgrade to Sonar 6, order number WEB0076849. I just took it out of the box to install it. I find no serial number? What's the deal with that?

Thanks.
Clay
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/20 12:51:29 (permalink)
Hello guys !
First time poster on the board and I also would love a clarification regarding the free upgrade to v.6 Sonar. I've read through 10 pages of the topic and couldn't fins the answer to my question so here it is !
I have purchased the Sonar 5 PE on September 4 from Guitar Center. Registered it right away and sent the mail in rebate form and documents. Never gotten anything from Cakewalk with my upgrade S/N, code or anything. I checked today and my rebate made it OK to the rebate center, so here is my question. When and how do I get my code for the v6 upgrade ????? What is the procedure for new customers ???
Thanks a bunch.
Anxious to upgrade Sonar 5 user,
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/20 13:03:09 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: lahatte

Carl,

I received my Sonar Producer 5 upgrade a few days ago that I purchased from directly Cakewalk to get the free upgrade to Sonar 6, order number WEB0076849. I just took it out of the box to install it. I find no serial number? What's the deal with that?

Thanks.
Clay


Same with me - I didnt get the email that my ISP blocked
Call them - they'll hook you right up with the S/N

and can I guess that I'll have my free upgrade to Sonar6 by my birthday ?
post edited by stratcat33511 - 2006/09/20 13:18:33
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/20 13:52:08 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: lahatte

Carl,

I received my Sonar Producer 5 upgrade a few days ago that I purchased from directly Cakewalk to get the free upgrade to Sonar 6, order number WEB0076849. I just took it out of the box to install it. I find no serial number? What's the deal with that?

Thanks.
Clay


Look in your e-mail junk or spam folder. As the e-mail is from a no reply address, some spam filters throw it in the span or junk folder.

It comes within 5 to 20 minutes of ordering with the serial number.

It indicates that it is preregistered with Cakewalk, so that you don't need to go online an register it.

Hell you may have missed it in your inbox in all the excitement of ordering. That could be easy.

If you cannot find this, then it is suggested to call Cakewalk. Although to be honest they are probably as busy as an ants nest at the moment.



 Yes.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/23 23:37:20 (permalink)
Hi. I posted earlier regarding the free update offered to customers from PE 5 to 6. I asked why it's not available to Australian customers who have just bought the product in August. Apparently the free upgrade is only available if you buy it from the Cakewalk website...so I've just ordered the upgrade ($259 plus #16.50 shipping) from Intelliware here in Australia. Still, it would be supportive to have such freebies available to customers in all parts of the world; I mean where's the equality here? Also, what's with 'contact us'? I have sent 2 emails requesting information - I've tried to order/download SFZ Soundfont and my credit cards aren't being acknowledged and I've not had this problem ever with other software purchases in other parts of the world - and no response...this is over a week. Pretty poor response for such a large organisation...however I'm getting the ads for Sonar 6 coming through...2 with the same details mind you.

Come on Cakewalk, what's the points of offering bonuses to customers if 'some' of your customers are being ostracised in the process? And 'contact us' shouldn't be about 'we'll get back to you...umm, maybe someday when we have the time'.

Sorry this is not in reply to Bermuda.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/10/18 11:43:48 (permalink)
I have spent more time in solving my computer problems than doing music with SPE 5 and XP. Recently, I have downgraded my OS to WINDOWS 2000 and everything is just fine.

I hope the Calkwalk will give us all the bugfixes for SONAR PE 5 to be used with XP for people like me who have decided not to upgrade to SPE6 for the time being and for those who have purchased the SOftware from Calkwalk store before the free promotion period
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/10/18 14:40:42 (permalink)
Hi KMA.

Stating the obvious, overall stability depends on your hardware, configuration, drivers, applications, running processes, etc...etc... in combination.

There are so many variables that it's quite impossible to comment on a "one-fits all" solution, and regarding Sonar and the OS there will be many (like myself) who have dedicated DAWs running XP32 very reliably. I put my dedicated DAW system together earlier this year and following some early fine-tuning it has been as reliable as hell, never missing a beat - apart from the predictable (known) issues like Sonar hanging with a memory payload in the order of 1.5GHz.

Is your DAW a dedicated music system or do you have other applications installed? I'm guessing that it may have something to do with XP trying to allocate resources in a different fashion to Windows 2000, and if this were true then running processes need to be considered. On top of that there are so many other things that could cause certain types of problems, so I'm only blindly speculating without knowing your hardware or configuration.

Clearly you'll not want to revert to XP as your system is working well for you now, though I'm sure there's many experienced home-studio buffs who would be able to help you through trouble patches should you wish to switch back in the future.

Sonar has had its bugs alright, but as they say... "Better the devil you know..."


Best wishes,

Brendan.
post edited by brendantownsend - 2006/10/18 15:46:26

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