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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/21 14:41:42 (permalink)
If anyone from the UK is thinking of ordering the upgrade, I received the following email from Cakewalk today after I contacted them enquiring when I would receive my order:

"There is a slight delay in shipping of software as we run out of remaining stock for the software we have to do some shifting of stock between the US and Euro stores. Thank you for your patience."

I've already been waiting almost 2 weeks and there's no indication of how much longer it will take

I guess the number of users going for the upgrade has really taken them by surprise.


Mont
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/21 14:55:50 (permalink)
OK, how about this then:

I bought SONAR 5 back in March. I'm in the UK but moving to Australia in October (possibly a moot point - but I may not actually upgrade until after that). I'd like to know what it would cost me to upgrade to SONAR 6. Presumably this is just going to be the "normal" price of upgrading, which is....?
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/21 15:22:25 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Mont

If anyone from the UK is thinking of ordering the upgrade, I received the following email from Cakewalk today after I contacted them enquiring when I would receive my order:

"There is a slight delay in shipping of software as we run out of remaining stock for the software we have to do some shifting of stock between the US and Euro stores. Thank you for your patience."

I've already been waiting almost 2 weeks and there's no indication of how much longer it will take

I guess the number of users going for the upgrade has really taken them by surprise.


Mont


About 10 minutes after I posted this, I got another email from Cakewalk stating that my order will be shipped out from Ireland by the 23rd at the latest...........waheyyyyyyyyy.......can't wait
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/21 15:48:09 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: scadh

I read through this long thread but didn't see my particular question specifically addressed. Does anyone know if the free Sonar 6 upgrade applies to a Sonar 5 Competitive Upgrade purchase made this month? I use a popular competing product but want to switch to Sonar for several reasons (V-Vocal and 64-bit architecture among them). Zzounds sells the Sonar 5 Competitive Upgrade for $399. If I purchased it, would I still be eligible for the $100 rebate and upgrade to Sonar 6 when it becomes available?

Thank you.


The rebates at retailers are only for full retail copies of the software, not upgrades. You would be eligible for the free upgrade to version 6. But you would need to contact Cakewalk customer service to receive it, it would not be automatically sent to you.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/21 17:57:04 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Mont

If anyone from the UK is thinking of ordering the upgrade, I received the following email from Cakewalk today after I contacted them enquiring when I would receive my order:

"There is a slight delay in shipping of software as we run out of remaining stock for the software we have to do some shifting of stock between the US and Euro stores. Thank you for your patience."

I've already been waiting almost 2 weeks and there's no indication of how much longer it will take

I guess the number of users going for the upgrade has really taken them by surprise.


Mont


Well hell, I ordered the 6 upgrade on the 2nd and received no acknowledgement of any kind (other than the serial etc.) Then I emailed to CANCEL my order on the 10th and STILL zero coms from Cakewalk to this day!.

Now I don't know if it's still on order, or if they have cancelled or what!?! Terrible, terrible customer service...

If one of the admin want to check it out, my order number is / was CW118407.

EDIT : STILL no word on this one... Customer service? What's that?
post edited by ReValveiT - 2006/08/22 12:42:06
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/22 01:12:28 (permalink)
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/22 14:39:13 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Carl Jacobson [Cakewalk]

The rebates at retailers are only for full retail copies of the software, not upgrades. You would be eligible for the free upgrade to version 6. But you would need to contact Cakewalk customer service to receive it, it would not be automatically sent to you.


Hi Carl,

Thanks for your reply. I want to be sure I'm following you, though, because it seemed a tiny bit ambiguous:

You said the rebate at retailers is not for upgrades, only full-version purchases. But then in the following sentence you said I *would* be eligible for the free upgrade to Sonar 6.

By that do you mean that if I buy the Sonar 5 Producer Competitive Upgrade from Zzounds ($399), the rebate form I get from them will be valid for $100, but that in order to receive the free upgrade to Sonar 6 Producer I'll need to contact Cakewalk directly?

If the answer to that question is "yes", then this is a terrific deal that I will not be able to pass up -- and I'll be placing my order this week. I hope that's the case! You'll be able to chalk up one more customer for Cakewalk, and one less for that other company whose name escapes me...
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/22 14:54:16 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: scadh

Hi Carl,

Thanks for your reply. I want to be sure I'm following you, though, because it seemed a tiny bit ambiguous:

You said the rebate at retailers is not for upgrades, only full-version purchases. But then in the following sentence you said I *would* be eligible for the free upgrade to Sonar 6.

By that do you mean that if I buy the Sonar 5 Producer Competitive Upgrade from Zzounds ($399), the rebate form I get from them will be valid for $100, but that in order to receive the free upgrade to Sonar 6 Producer I'll need to contact Cakewalk directly?

If the answer to that question is "yes", then this is a terrific deal that I will not be able to pass up -- and I'll be placing my order this week. I hope that's the case! You'll be able to chalk up one more customer for Cakewalk, and one less for that other company whose name escapes me...


You will not get a $100 rebate on a competetive upgrade. The $399 price is the regular competitive upgrade price, and no rebate will be issued on that price. The details in the PDF for the rebate reads "full retail version" The Zzounds website does not make that clear, but the company processing the rebate forms would reject your rebate request.

Anyone who buys or upgrades to SONAR 5 in the month of August or September is elligible for for a free upgrade to SONAR 6. We will be automatically sending these out to customers who purchased directly from us, or to those who sent in the rebate form.

As this competetive upgrade version would not be accepted by the rebate house, you would not be automatically be sent the upgrade to version 6. You would still be entitled to it and would need to contact Cakewalk customer service to have it sent to you.

Please let me know if you have any more questions.

Best regards,

Carl





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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/22 14:59:13 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: ReValveiT

ORIGINAL: Mont

If anyone from the UK is thinking of ordering the upgrade, I received the following email from Cakewalk today after I contacted them enquiring when I would receive my order:

"There is a slight delay in shipping of software as we run out of remaining stock for the software we have to do some shifting of stock between the US and Euro stores. Thank you for your patience."

I've already been waiting almost 2 weeks and there's no indication of how much longer it will take

I guess the number of users going for the upgrade has really taken them by surprise.


Mont


Well hell, I ordered the 6 upgrade on the 2nd and received no acknowledgement of any kind (other than the serial etc.) Then I emailed to CANCEL my order on the 10th and STILL zero coms from Cakewalk to this day!.

Now I don't know if it's still on order, or if they have cancelled or what!?! Terrible, terrible customer service...

If one of the admin want to check it out, my order number is / was CW118407.

EDIT : STILL no word on this one... Customer service? What's that?


ReValveiT,

If you would like this matter resolved more quickly, I would suggest that you contact our customer service dept directly via phone: +1 617-423-9004. Support and customer service are receiving an abnormally high number of emails this month and they are behind on their responses. These emails are mostly from people asking about the features of Version 6, which unfortunately our CSR team is not at liberty to disclose at this time.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/22 22:30:49 (permalink)
You know. I remember when I posted about the same thing happening to me with Sonar 3 Pro. and 4 came out a month later. I got flamed by the forum users. Funny, how karma works.

I am curoius about 6, (3 to 6 upgrade is a good deal) but please Cakewalk, show some specs from S6P. We have to go on blind faith here.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 02:13:44 (permalink)
I just upgraded from Sonar 4 Producer Edition to Sonar 5 Producer Edition at Cakewalk Web site which entitles me for free upgrade to Sonar 6 Producer Edition when it comes out. I got an e-mail within 10 minutes with Serial & Registration number! How impressive.

Then I realized that it makes no sense to install Sonar 5 and within few months upgrade to Sonar 6 again. Is it possible not to install Sonar 5 and wait until Sonar 6 arrives, then install only Sonar 6? Or do I have to upgrade from current Sonar 4 to Sonar 5, then Sonar 6?
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 03:18:22 (permalink)
They all install completely independently. I would install SONAR 5 completely. At least install all the FX and extras on the install DVD...CW changes the "package" of added synths and fx with each release. For example, there is no guarantee that Perfect Space will be in SONAR 6.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 07:55:23 (permalink)
To add to what Andy said, you can also leave previous versions installed. I have SONAR version 1.* through 5.* all installed and it has never been a problem.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 14:35:11 (permalink)
Cakewalk,
I know I'm probably talking to the hand, but throw me a bone here. I want to upgrade from 4PE to 5PE for purposes of getting 6PE free, but can't really justify it without knowing more about 6 and any bonus software. With 5PE, I would mainly be interested in V-Vocal, but I'm hearing Melodyne is better, and it's available for $159 -- less than the price of the upgrade to 5PE. So, please, convince me that 6 will make it worthwhile for me to upgrade.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 15:33:15 (permalink)
I know I'm probably talking to the hand, but throw me a bone here. I want to upgrade from 4PE to 5PE for purposes of getting 6PE free, but can't really justify it without knowing more about 6 and any bonus software.


Sorry, but what is the point? If you don`t really want 5PE, than don`t order the update now and wait til 6PE comes around. I can`t imagine that V-Vocal will be missing from 6. As by now you can upgrade even from 3PE to 6PE for 179 $/€, I cannot imagine that the upgrade cost from 4 to 6 will be higher after the Release of 6PE. And even if the upgrade cost will rise about 30-50 $, so what? The deal is still okay and you will know exactly if 6 offers something that is worth the update.

But on the other hand I am impatiently curios about Sonar 6, too
post edited by HansDampf - 2006/08/23 15:46:04
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 15:48:45 (permalink)
Just to be sure I don't miss the deadline...

I bought 5PE in July and want to take advantage of the $50 upgrade to 6PE.

When can I do this? When will you start "pre-selling" Sonar 6?

Thanks,

Seth

"Anyone who purchased in July got SONAR 5 at a discount that ranged from $20-$50. If you notice, those discounted prices are now gone, and the upgrade prices have been raised to their pre-July levels. The special offer on SONAR 6 that we will be making to SONAR 5 customers who purchased in July will be to sell you your SONAR 6 upgrade for the difference in price. So if you purchased SONAR 5 last month at a $50 discount, you will get an offer on SONAR 6 for $50.

This offer will be sent out when we start pre-selling SONAR 6."
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 15:50:01 (permalink)
The point is, I could live with the shortcomings of V-Vocal if 6 offered something of value to me. And there's no guarantee that V-Vocal will be included with 6. Again, something I need to know to make a decision.

And, yes, I'm impatiently curious, too!

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 17:02:31 (permalink)
The point is, I could live with the shortcomings of V-Vocal if 6 offered something of value to me. And there's no guarantee that V-Vocal will be included with 6. Again, something I need to know to make a decision.


Don`t get me wrong, in the end this is not my business, but Sonar 5 has some real useful workflow enhancements to offer. And besides V-Vocal you also get a good convolution reverb. You can try V-Vocals with the demo-version of SONAR 5. If V-Vocal is not good enough for you, than that`s the way it is wether SONAR 6 is interesting to you or not. I can use V-Vocal for small corrections and for checking my backing-vocals for some intervalls that may sound strange to some ears The Melodyne-bridge is not hassle-free as this forum shows, but the interface in itself is better.
audioMIDI.com has a good video-tutorial for V-Vocal: http://www.audiomidi.com/videos/sonar/
You can also download a demo for Melodyne at celemony.com.
If vocal-correction is that important to you, than you have to go for Melodyne. But that way you can wait for some SONAR 6 announcements. But I really recommend to tryout SONAR 5, it is not only about V-Vocal. Really not. If you can live with the shortcomings of V-Vocal in any way, than SONAR 5 is the only choice. just my2cents....



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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 18:40:46 (permalink)
I'm am surprised that many of you think Cakewalk isn't going to give 6 everything 5 already has (and then some). Look how long Dreamstation, Cyclone, and Cakewalk FX linger in these packages. Don't sweat it. If there is one thing I love about Cakewalk, it is that they are NEVER stingy with the extra goodies.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 23:29:48 (permalink)
not all the goodies are included. fx pad is missing, luckily i still have a copy of plasma installed so the fx pad shows up, but it's not included with studio 5.
about prices; it is $200 to upgrade from studio5 to producer 5, then ver.6.
regular studio to producer upgrade was 150 just a few weeks ago , so ver 5 to 6 studio to studio , or producer to same should be $50. unless we're being gouged. right?
on top of that a couple of months ago there was an upgrade special ; studio to producer- $100.
well, buying now we don't even know what it is we are buying. kind of silly , isn't it?
and csr Carl, did not answer my posted question(i know, i know ,he is terribly busy).
i called cakewalk with the same inquiry, was promised an e mail, never got any.

oh well, at any rate i think it is wiser to wait.
to recap - there are always special offers, (this one ain't that special)
and there is a lot of hype about.....the unknown.
but hey , judging by how the customer service is swamped and confused, i'd say a lot of people want the upgrade.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/23 23:46:20 (permalink)
Carl.. Or anyone else can answer me...

I ordered and received my upgrade in August from your distributor Intelliware in Australia...
Will they be shipping this offer for version 6.. Or do I have to organise it through Cakewalk..?
Or did I do the wroing thing by going through the Aussie distributor..?

Thankyou
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 02:32:46 (permalink)
I'm am surprised that many of you think Cakewalk isn't going to give 6 everything 5 already has (and then some)


I wouldn`t be so sure about it. Sometimes some extras are left out at the next version. See the "V-Sampler"-fiasco for example. You also don`t know the contracts between Cakewalk and Roland concerning V-Vocal. Maybe they licensed it for just one year to see how things work out. But now Cakewalk may prefer to spend their budget on something else or Roland has raised the license fee up to the sky. Who knows. But as far as we customers can judge the situation I am pretty sure that V-Vocal will still be part of Sonar 6. All in all the reviews were positive, Cakewalk and Roland/Edirol are working close together anyway and V-Vocal is a strong marketing-issue.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 05:13:10 (permalink)
I just bought [August] SONAR5 Producer in the UK from a UK retailer - are any of the offers on free Sonar6 available to me?
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 12:57:03 (permalink)
Hi Trusty-
I'm am surprised that many of you think Cakewalk isn't going to give 6 everything 5 already has (and then some).

Things do get dropped from one version to the next. HansDampf mentioned VSampler, but the Timeworks Compressor & EQ and DR-008 come to mind as well. OTOH, I doubt very much they'll drop V-Vocal unless as someone mentioned there's a licensing issue, since I think this was one of the big selling points for PE5, whereas the things I mentioned weren't quite so much.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 13:00:52 (permalink)
Here's something for y'all to drool over while you wait...


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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 13:13:58 (permalink)

Where's Carl when you need him? If I knew V-Vocal was going to be included with 6, I could just wait -- I won't need it for a few months anyway. But if it's not going to be included, that would probably cinch it for me to upgrade now and benefit from whatever 6 brings as well.

BTW, I think they are including some kind of talent search feature with Sonar 6. Could be interesting -- check it out.
http://www.sonar6.com/documents/sonar6_in_pictures.pdf#search=%22sonar%206%22
(Obviously, I've been Googling "Sonar 6." )
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 13:50:31 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Susan G

Things do get dropped from one version to the next. HansDampf mentioned VSampler, but the Timeworks Compressor & EQ and DR-008 come to mind as well. OTOH, I doubt very much they'll drop V-Vocal unless as someone mentioned there's a licensing issue, since I think this was one of the big selling points for PE5, whereas the things I mentioned weren't quite so much.



Especially since the timeworks effects were replaced by the Sonitus FX-Suite. I cannot remember anyone missing them. On the other hand the vsampler was a strong selling point for Sonar 3, too. But too many people had problems with it and the copy protection was not accepted at all. One strong selling point for Cakewalk-software has always been the hassle-free copy protection.

Still: If you are serious about pitch-correction and harmonizing, then melodyne is the way to go. Period. V-Vocal should be compared to auto-tune, not melodyne. With a melodyne-version other than UNO you even can get audio-to-midi-conversion. Although I never tried it.

@mwall:
I just got an email today that the upgrade price from SONAR 3 to 6 will rise from 179 to 249 € after August. Surely the dollar-price will rise the same. You may check your mail or subscribe to the newsletter. Maybe by doing so you can get information about 4-to-6 prices.
post edited by HansDampf - 2006/08/24 14:08:00
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 13:58:05 (permalink)
Hi HansDampf-
Especially since the timeworks effects were replaced by the Sonitus FX-Suite. I cannot remember anyone missing them.

I have to disagree with you there. A lot of people still use and swear by the Timeworks FX.

On the other hand the vsampler was a strong selling point for Sonar 3, too. But too many people had problems with it and the copy protection was not accepted at all.

It's probably moot at this point, but what copy protection problems were there? I never had any, and I've used it with every version of SONAR and FLS since, and I've upgraded a few times, too (though never to the "full" version, just the DXi that shipped with S3).

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/24 14:13:06 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Susan G

Hi HansDampf-
On the other hand the vsampler was a strong selling point for Sonar 3, too. But too many people had problems with it and the copy protection was not accepted at all.

It's probably moot at this point, but what copy protection problems were there? I never had any, and I've used it with every version of SONAR and FLS since, and I've upgraded a few times, too (though never to the "full" version, just the DXi that shipped with S3).

Thanks-

-Susan

The full version of VSampler had to be activated with an extremely long key (128 chars?) that was delivered by email. It did not seem like a very big deal to me.

But this is getting away from the Sonar 6 frenzy, how can anyone resist such a deal?
post edited by scook - 2006/08/24 14:25:51
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