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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/08/31 22:24:27 (permalink)
I'm sure they will take your money
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/01 22:04:21 (permalink)
Hi. I've just purchased Sonar 5 PE. Does this offer also apply to Australian customers as well? If so, then that's great and if not, why not? Or what upgrade offers are available to us?

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ATTN: Carl Jacobson 2006/09/02 14:39:22 (permalink)
Carl:
I have posted many times about my heartburn about the upgrade, since you have said that I can upgrade my V4PE to V6PE for
$179 this sounds like I will go for it. I had been planning to upgrade Vsampler and buy Wizzo W2 Co-reverb, I would rather just upgrade
Sonar. Losing the Pantheon Reverb is no big deal for me, I didn't use it anyway. So once I see V6 feature set will almost certainly upgrade
BTW, when you born in August of 1972, I was humping sand dunes with a full field pack and a heavy M1 WW2 rifle in basic training for the US Army
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RE: ATTN: Carl Jacobson 2006/09/02 17:09:01 (permalink)
(Message deleted; I didn't read the offer right.)
post edited by Shayne White - 2006/09/03 11:31:58
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RE: ATTN: Carl Jacobson SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS 2006/09/04 04:16:37 (permalink)
Carl,
You may have answered this before in the 13 pages of posts but please can you let me know the minimum and recommended system requirements for S6PE. Thanks

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C

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RE: ATTN: Carl Jacobson SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS 2006/09/04 18:21:45 (permalink)
Well, over a month after ordering Sonar5, it FINALLY shows up at my door (UK) Not even a single email / tracking number from Cakewalk.

I sure do hope they have this crap sorted out when it comes to sending my "free" Sonar6 upgrade!
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 11:37:48 (permalink)
So, anyone else here besides me staring at their copy of Sonar 5, wondering what the heck to do with it? :) I am running Sonar 4, and Sonar 6 is coming in a couple months, and I really have no need to use 5 right now. In fact, I just don't want to go through the install process just to use 5 for a couple months, then install 6 when it arrives.

What should I do with my copy of Sonar 5? I'd sell it, since it's a brand new sealed copy, but the serial# is tied to my Sonar 4 copy somehow I'm sure, and I don't want that out there in someone else's hands. So if anyone has any creative ideas on what to do with my copy of Sonar 5, let me know. Otherwise it's just going to gather dust in a storage room for all eternity.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 11:50:44 (permalink)
Sam --

Personally, I'd install Sonar 5 (with all updates) and start using it now.
Sonar 6 will probably ship in 5-7 weeks, but it's usually a good idea to wait a couple of months and let the dust clear (and perhaps wait for the first update/fix pack to be released). You can install both versions without conflicts (I have Sonar 3,4,5 all installed currently), and that gives you something of a 'safety net': if you have problems using Sonar 6, you can revert to Sonar 5 (or Sonar 4) until the problems are sorted out.

BTW -- I suspect you can't legally sell your Sonar 5 copy to anyone, since it's tied both to your Sonar 4 license and your forthcoming Sonar 6 upgrade. According to the license, I can't sell (or even give) my old copy of Sonar 4 to someone else, now that I'm using Sonar 5. (In any case, I'm still using plugins that came with Sonar 2 through 4 --- Timeworks, DR-008, VSampler, etc.)

- Jim
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 11:55:19 (permalink)
Jim,

Yeah I wouldn't want to sell any of my Sonar copies. If I had bought a brand new copy of Sonar (not an ugprade) and decided I didn't want it and it was still sealed, I could legally sell it. But that's not the case here.

The thing is, I'm not working on any music projects right now (and don't even have time), and so installing 5 isn't a big deal for me. Also, I'm not even sure what new features 5 has over 4. Obviously nothing major enough for me, because I went through the feature list when it came out and decided not to buy it. I'll be disappointed if Sonar 6 doesn't have some great new stuff in it. I really want to see faster/better MIDI editing controls, personally, as a lot of my work in Sonar is MIDI tweaks/edits.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 12:11:20 (permalink)
I had a similar experience buying Sonar 5 -- no time for music (given family/work craziness, now mostly resolved), so I waited until January to buy the update to Sonar 5, and didn't install it until June. In retrospect, I should probably have just waited until the regular August 2-for-1 upgrade deal.
ORIGINAL: MDesigner
I really want to see faster/better MIDI editing controls, personally, as a lot of my work in Sonar is MIDI tweaks/edits.

Me too. I've been disappointed that Sonar hasn't evolved further in that area (nor has Project 5, really....).
A number of the older MIDI-only apps had some very innovative features that I'd love to see in Sonar (I'm thinking of FreeStyle here; also some of the Dr. T products ("Tiger" editor, I think it was called).

I'm waiting on more detail about Sonar 6. If it has a "Fit to Improvisation" feature that really works, I might go for it -- or if some of the controller mapping support (ACT) is enticing. The AudioSnap features sound nice, but I don't work with audio clips much, so I'm not sure how much I'd use them. Hmm. Looking again, there are a lot of things I might use, if I knew more about what they were.

Input! I need input !

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 13:02:22 (permalink)
I have installed Sonar 5 and updated it to V5.2, i updated from Homestudio 4 so i actually needed all the new features

Not sure what the difference is between S4 & 5 so i can´t comment on that one.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 14:57:01 (permalink)
Actually, in Sonar 5, they introduced advanced step recording options.. that's kinda nice. I do use step record for very fast string parts that I can't possibly play manually.. and they intro'd some nice features for that in version 5. So I guess I can't complain. :) Supposedly they made some changes to MIDI/audio editing, something about editing both in one spot? Also, some new MIDI FX plugins, not sure what they are yet.

Hopefully Sonar 6 will have even more new features.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 15:02:45 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: MDesigner

So, anyone else here besides me staring at their copy of Sonar 5, wondering what the heck to do with it? :) I am running Sonar 4, and Sonar 6 is coming in a couple months, and I really have no need to use 5 right now. In fact, I just don't want to go through the install process just to use 5 for a couple months, then install 6 when it arrives.


Install SONAR 5 because, if for no other reason, we already know that it contains the Lexicon Pantheon reverb plugin which will not be included in SONAR 6 when it is finally released. There may also be some "hidden agenda" technical issues if your SONAR 6 installation program is looking for an installation of SONAR 5 due to the upgrade offer from CW...

This may or may not be a problem, however, when I initally purchased Adobe Audition 1.5 after Adobe purchased Syntrillium (Cool Edit 2000, Cool Edit Pro) I was able to get the upgrade to Audition for little or no money (I honestly don't recall how the merger between the companies was structured). BUT, the installation CD's that I received from Adobe require that I enter the name I used and the serial number of my Syntrillium software as it was legitimately registered.

The actual prompt that comes up when I install Audition reads something like this:

"The serial number you have entered indicates that this is an upgrade from a previous registration of Cool Edit software. Please provide your registration information of that product in order to continue with this installation."

I'm sure this is all tied to an extensive database that includes such pertinent information on all of the customers that Adobe inherited when they purchased Syntrillium, but there's also the possibility (does anybody really know?) that software developers ship different versions of their product that are intrinsically tied to the "upgrade" offer that the buyer purchased. Therefore, if you haven't installed and registered the appropriate software that qualifies the buyer to be eligible for the upgrade, there's a possibility that you may have problems with the upgrade installation process.

What should I do with my copy of Sonar 5? I'd sell it, since it's a brand new sealed copy, but the serial# is tied to my Sonar 4 copy somehow I'm sure, and I don't want that out there in someone else's hands. So if anyone has any creative ideas on what to do with my copy of Sonar 5, let me know. Otherwise it's just going to gather dust in a storage room for all eternity.


You can't sell it, period. It's a non-transferable license that only can used on your computer(s). Carefully read the EULA and that is specifically stated.

Just install the SONAR 5 program. All of your SONAR 4 projects will work fine using version 5, and you'll have a head start on what version 6 holds in store.

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Papa
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 15:19:25 (permalink)
Hi Papa-
we already know that it contains the Lexicon Pantheon reverb plugin which will not be included in SONAR 6 when it is finally released.


I believe it's only the Surround version of the Pantheon that won't be included in 6, but sure, why not install 5 now?

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 15:20:23 (permalink)
Thanks for the advice :) I suppose I'll just install it and mess around with it, can't hurt.

But installing it just for Pantheon is a moot point for me. I use Altiverb 5, which in my opinion pretty much blows away most other software based reverbs.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 17:19:50 (permalink)
It may be that the Sonar6 update is a TRUE upgrade program; as in, it needs Sonar5 installed in order to update it to Sonar6.

I hope they don't take this path, but they just might.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/05 19:40:12 (permalink)
I promised I let the group know when the non-blank DVD disk arrived (S5PE). It arrived. Now updating to 5.2.

The license was something I've never seen before--with check boxes saying (1) I know I can't sell or transfer the software and (2) I know I can only use the software on one machine at a time.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/06 03:01:19 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Susan G

Hi Papa-
we already know that it contains the Lexicon Pantheon reverb plugin which will not be included in SONAR 6 when it is finally released.


I believe it's only the Surround version of the Pantheon that won't be included in 6, but sure, why not install 5 now?

-Susan


Thanks for the clarification, Susan...I made my initial comment based on my recollection of Carl's post...Obviously, my memory functions are becoming a bit blurred in my old age!

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Papa
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/06 03:09:21 (permalink)
Hi Papa-
Obviously, my memory functions are becoming a bit blurred in my old age!

Tell me about it! Actually, I'd rather you didn't.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/06 09:06:22 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: DFusion

I have installed Sonar 5 and updated it to V5.2, i updated from Homestudio 4 so i actually needed all the new features

Not sure what the difference is between S4 & 5 so i can´t comment on that one.





there is a section in the Sonar 5 manual "What's new in Sonar 5"

I was looking at it last night....Always the first port of call for new versions ! It's near the back, but provides references to the relevant pages in the manual for details

 Yes.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/07 10:43:36 (permalink)
Hi there
I already own a copy of Sonar 5 Producer. Can I get the upgrade to Sonar 6 free? Is the offer free in the UK?
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/07 13:34:30 (permalink)
Hi Carl-
The only plug-in that is present in SONAR 5 Producer Edition that will be missing from SONAR 6 Producer Edition will be the Lexicon Pantheon Surround Reverb


The Lexicon Pantheon Reverb is listed under Producer Edition exclusives on the new web page. It doesn't say anything specifically about the Surround version, and I think most of us assumed that when you specified it in your quote that meant the regular version would be included in SE6.

I already own it so it's a moot point for me, but I'm wondering now if I (and others) have been misinforming people about this. Can you clarify, please?

Thanks-

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/07 13:46:33 (permalink)
Go ahead and install it. It's not that much trouble, and it's better than v.4.

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/07 16:59:22 (permalink)
Hi Carl-

I'm confused about this, so can you please clarify which version(s) of the Lexicon Pantheon reverb are included with which version(s) of S6 before it drops off the radar? I might have misread your initial post.

Thanks-

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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/08 07:55:44 (permalink)
Hi Everyone
Can ANYone clarify what the official procedure is going to be for us mooks that missed the freebie upgrade promo ?

EDITED:
NEVERmind- Went all the way back to page one and found my own answers. Sorry for the interruption. Back to regular programming


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post edited by CakeMaker - 2006/09/08 08:19:18
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RE: ATTN: Carl Jacobson 2006/09/08 10:13:59 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: bluespoet

Carl:
I have posted many times about my heartburn about the upgrade, since you have said that I can upgrade my V4PE to V6PE for
$179 this sounds like I will go for it. I had been planning to upgrade Vsampler and buy Wizzo W2 Co-reverb, I would rather just upgrade
Sonar. Losing the Pantheon Reverb is no big deal for me, I didn't use it anyway. So once I see V6 feature set will almost certainly upgrade
BTW, when you born in August of 1972, I was humping sand dunes with a full field pack and a heavy M1 WW2 rifle in basic training for the US Army


Thank you Bluespoet. BTW, I was not born in August, it was September.
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RE: ATTN: Carl Jacobson SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS 2006/09/08 10:15:06 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: chrismedway

Carl,
You may have answered this before in the 13 pages of posts but please can you let me know the minimum and recommended system requirements for S6PE. Thanks

Regards
C



You can find this on the product pages now: http://www.cakewalk.com/products/sonar/system.asp
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/08 10:18:24 (permalink)

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Hi Carl-

I'm confused about this, so can you please clarify which version(s) of the Lexicon Pantheon reverb are included with which version(s) of S6 before it drops off the radar? I might have misread your initial post.

Thanks-

-Susan


Susan, your initial thoughts on this were correct. The Surround version of the Lexicon Pantheon is not included in SONAR 6 Producer Edition. The Stereo version of the Lexicon Pantheon is still included.

And of course if you have SONAR 4 or 5 Producer Edition, and you keep the Pantheon Surround Reverb installed you can continue to use it in SONAR 6.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/08 10:28:00 (permalink)
A few points... It looks like Cakewalk should rename Sonar 6 PE to just Sonar PE and charge $179. as your yearly license renewal. Symantec and Zone Alarm and the other software companies do. In reality it's the same thing...musicians aren't stupid but yet Cakewalk and most other audio companies seem to think we are like children and "got to have it now daddy" syndrome.

Another point is just when you get used to all the controls, and finally get comfortable with it, you change to a new way to control things and now I need to relearn how to use Sonar which takes me some time to get up to speed. Most of us are not full time engineers, although we like to be, but are home studio users who have full time careers and don't always have the time to relearn things but just want to make music.

I still keep my Roland VS2480CD because it's fast and easy to use. I've been a Sonar user since Sonar 2 because when I learn it, I do like it, but at times when I just want to get up and go it can be diificult. For instance on Sony ACID 6, one of the convenient things is access to the soft synths which I use often. Using Acid 6, you just click soft synth and choose the one you want. With Sonar5 PE, I always have to open a midi channel and an audio channel and set the parameters on each one.
I'm not trying to compare the two products and both have their places. I'm just pointing out my obeservations. Sony Acid and other programs have a life longer than 12 months and will usually do 3-5 updates before a new release and charge a modest nominal fee to uprade for their loyal customers. I have Reason 3.0 as well, my other programs are soft synths so I don't think it's fair to include them in a sequencer comparison.

I also realize change is necessary as well, but please be gentle on us with your upgrades or wait longer between releases. Some will say and do the
"every other one" or "odd" / "even" release. In the end I will upgrade only to relearn it before Sonar 7 PE comes out next September for Vista and probably then we'll pay for an upgrade and also pay for a new operating system. That leads me to another observation that Sonar in the long run is trying to battle Pro Tools for supremecy and heading for the "high end" sector with 64 bit computing, Vista OS and Extreme Dual Core processors from AMD or Intell which would take the average home studio user out of the mix and allow Cakewalk market lesser versions of Sonar as Pro Tools does with "LE".

Thanks for letting me speak.
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RE: Free upgrade to SONAR 6 2006/09/08 12:51:17 (permalink)
Seems to be a glitch in the $50 offer for July purchasers of S5. I put my serial # in the box but the price for upgrade remains at $179. Anxiously awaiting a fix! Thanks.
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