No, I'm not planning on getting the foot controller. I'm planning on using GR5 as a mixing tool inside of Sonar X1 only. I'm well aware that there is a foot controller available, but I'm not planning on playing out live anytime soon. I am planning on recording dry tracks and then adding the effects from GR5 to them. Like I said, having this program is like having a warehouse full of amps, cabinets, mics, effects, at my disposal. The effects sound great too !! Very responsive. Plus you can save your settings and it has a very powerful search engine so that you can find them right away.

I haven't even begun to work with the loop machine, or the container, ...this program is just loaded with cool stuff !!

That tuner is actually quite amazing. It's included in the GR4 LE package that comes X1 though too (unless there is an upgrade in 5GR). I've been tuning by ear for 20 years... and not the chincy 5th fret or harmonics stuff. I tune to perfect fourths (Major third for the B). I'll tune guits whose intonation are out geared toward the chord progressions. I'm master of twisting out of tune chords into tune just with my fingers on the fly. I've also used tons of high quality tuners for live and keep a BOSS TU-2 handy at all times. I have been the human tuner for many of my bands over the years... but the GR tuner? Holy *$%&^ is it ever precise. I used it a few weeks ago and I swear my axe has never been THAT in tune before EVER. I used to use the TU-2 to tune up for recording but that thing is gonna stay on the shelf now. Seriously, you think a tuner on something like GR is just an extra add on but that is one powerful tool that'll make everything sound WAY better just because of how accurate it is. The point is, when someone like me says I'm blown away by a tuner... it means something. It kind of made me angry that it was better than my own ear. lol

Vinny - I'm with you.  I love GR5 and all of its great sounds, but for my go to amp sounds I start with the Pod Farm selections. They are really authentic sounding.

I just bought it too,very nice upgrade from player.

However,I soon discovered there is ONE thing Amplitube does better,that is.......turn your guitar into a credible sounding BASS.

Yes,Iv'e been having amazing success,using Amplitubes "Pitch Shifter",but one must get rid of the reverb,and whammy pedal,from the -1 Octave preset,use the SVT amp,fiddle with the mic's,now I don't have to get a real Bass[yet].

The funny part was,I bought the pitch shifter/tube compressor from IK,for 10 jam points,and 20 cost me $7.99!

All the real Bassists out there will cringe,but I'm shocked at how good,these two units in AMP.3 make a standard guitar,sound like a Precision!

Bob

Well the race is on, it's Scuffham vrs. Pod Farm 2.5....

I've got two weeks to decided which one I want...

Right now it's neck and neck....

I see what you mean about the tuner being dead on accurate. I put the new strings on the D-18 and I tuned my D-18 and the Taylor 12 string to the tuner in GR5, and they both sounded better than ever. I played both thru GR5's Tweed amp and both sound fantastic. So rich and full sounding. My 12 string sounds like a whole orchestra coming at ya.

I have pickups in both acoustic guitars...a LR Baggs A1 in the D-18 and a Martin Goldline pickup in the Taylor. Both sound great.

This Guitar Rig 5 is just what I needed.

you might even say, it is ni's "pro channel" ;)

just chiming in but you should really try Peavy revalver. It has really good tone when mixed with redwirez IR cabs. Even better disable cab simulation and hook revalver > power amp > cab. Has been compared to the axe fx. And you can even edit the electronics. pre tubes, power tubes, wattage, character of the tubes. Add more tubes. Fun stuff!

Guess there's just so many things you can buy - despite a terrible affliction of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) I've just go too much guitar stuff with GR5 including Guitar Rig Kontrol + Amplitube 3 including StealthPedal + Line 6 POD farm 2.5 including PODXT Live, not to mention a Roland FC200 MIDI pedal and I've still only got 2 feet - too much stuff and now I'm retired, between homes without a studio and everything in storage.

but I have heard good reports about the Peavey plugin. Had a few of their amps over the years...getting very late here and I'm just rabitting on now

Well if you are a registered owner of Guitar Rig 4, which comes with X1 Producer, you are eligible to upgrade to Guitar Rig 5 for $99. Street price is $199 so if you are eligible, you're getting $100 bucks off.

I've been checking out Pod Farm 2.5 and Scuffham programs which have some very sweet sounding presets, but with a little tweeking, I can usually duplicate them in GR5. I've been doing sound comparisons all weekend and my ears are fried right now. I gotta give them a break.

I have to start watching my spending, so I may just stick with GR5 for awhile.

Hey man keep have fun as this  is what  its all about.


And all this time I thought it was all about the Hokey Pokey....hmm I better upgrade too!

As you know, I've also been demo'ing Pod Farm 2.5 and Scuffham  programs as well. I went to the websites to read up on them and found that the Pod Farm 2.5 demo I downloaded is a free trial version. It only has two amps and a small selection of effects. The Standard version has 18 amps and a whole bunch more cabinets and effects, putting it in the same league as Guitar Rig 5 Pro.  So I now have to look at this a little differently. The Pod Farm I have now I can use for free, this gives me lots of access to many great sounds right now !! I looked over the stuff that comes with the Standard version for $99 bucks, and what peaked my interest is it said the "Neve"word with regards to their pre-amps.....hmmmm...

I have more sound checks to do tomorrow...I have to look into the chorus/delay effect in Scuffham...

Bub


I just pulled up the Guitar Rig 5 Pro web page. There's a link to click that takes you to your account and checks to see which update you qualify for. Also, you have to click Update rather than Upgrade, in the drop down menu.

"As an owner of GUITAR RIG 4 PRO you qualify to install and activate this version. Price: $79.00."

Looks like if you own GR4 Pro, you can get GR5 Pro for $79.00 bucks. That's a pretty good deal.

Yes that is odd that an update and an upgrade are two different prices. I sent an email to them to get an answer on the question and asked for a $20 refund.  

Now with regards to Pod Farm 2.5, you get basically the same deal. You get Pod Farm 2.5 Free version, then if you wish to upgrade that to the full Standard version it's also $99. The Platinum version is $299.

So in effect Pod Farm is offering a similar deal as Guitar Rig 5. Take your pick. Both have lots of amps and effects on which to chose from.

Scuffham is offering their package for $75. Only has three amps, but they are three very nice sounding amps, and again lots of nice effects.

djwayne

Apparently there's two GR4's out there GUITAR RIG 4 and GUITAR RIG 4 LE. The LE version is what comes with Sonar X1 Producer.  The GUITAR RIG 4 update is $79, and the UPGRADE from GUITAR RIG 4 LE is $99.

I am not eleigible for the $79 update because I only have the LE version..... got it ??

Ahh ha. Makes total sense now. Guitar Rig Pro 4 came bundled with the upgrade to Sonar 8.5 Producer Edition, that's how I got the full version. It was a heck of a deal too if I remember correctly.

I installed it from the version upgrade I downloaded from NI's site, so when I installed X1, I unchecked the GR4 installation because I already had the latest version. I didn't realize that was the LE version. Still though, $99.00 is a heck of a deal.