Anderton
Maybe you go to secret design meetings to which i'm not privy, but I doubt it.

ouch! lol!

You know, the secret meetings they have where they burn composers at the stake after slaughtering the goats.. :)

swamptooth
I remember requesting something akin to mix recall at some point after cubase let me down with track versions...

Thanks, swamptooth.
I will search for that.
I just want to compare the Mix Recall buzz with the SV buzz and see if maybe there is some magic incantation within the MR requests which we could use for SV.

microapp

There were also multiple requests for the feature that ended up being Mix Recall.

Craig, can you point us to posts/threads which contain the user requests for Mix Recall ?

I don't make up stuff to prove points.
 
This is one of them. It started off with mixer recall, but starting with konradh's post, got into the mix recall concept.
 
Here's another one. This starts off immediately by describing exactly what mix recall does.
 
These requests go back to at least 2005. Here's a thread from then. Here's another oldie that mentions "Being able to recall a snapshot at any time or position during playback is a usefull feature. Epecially for A/B'ing different mix versions. Sonar's snapshots are more taylored towards automation than saving a mix scene for recalling later." And another one. To all of these kinds of threads, the answer was almost always "save as different projects."
 
Other threads reference this feature being in digital mixers like Yamaha's, and desirable. Here's a post wanting "mix versions" in a long SONAR wishlist thread.
 
It's hard to find threads using search right now because it brings up newer threads about the actual mix recall feature; this is what I could find within a couple minutes. If I really wanted to dedicate myself to the task, I could find more. But you get the idea.
 
Also bear in mind I've given a lot of workshops on using music software, not just SONAR. Feature requests that come up under Q&A sessions, even if not specifically for SONAR, count AFAIC.

microapp
 
For the most part this thread is about Cake listening to users and in particular the state of Staff view.
But here is a rough price comparison.
Bought outright by a new user
 
Sonar Platinum $499
Studio One Pro $399
Cubase 8 pro $549
Reason $399
Protools 11 $699
Digital Performer 8 $499
Logic Pro X $199
FL Studio $139
Reaper`$60
Ableton Live 9 $749
 
But on a strictly cost basis you should be using Reaper, yes?
 

To loop back to the topic...not if you want notation. Not only should you avoid Reaper if you want notation, you should also pass on Studio One Pro, Reason, FL Studio, and Ableton Live. in other words, half of the DAWs in that list DON'T have notation.
 
Also I realize you're not talking about costs going forward, but the list is not really fair to FL Studio, which gives free updates for life. Granted that doesn't give you access to everything, but it's still cool. And don't forget that when you buy SONAR, you get updates which for many other DAWs would be a paid update that occurs sometime after the initial release, so you need to factor that into the initial cost.

Anderton

microapp

There were also multiple requests for the feature that ended up being Mix Recall.

Craig, can you point us to posts/threads which contain the user requests for Mix Recall ?

I don't make up stuff to prove points.
 

I did not say or imply you made anything up.
I assumed there were examples.
I simply wanted to look at them.
You provided some, so thanks.

microapp

swamptooth
I remember requesting something akin to mix recall at some point after cubase let me down with track versions...

Thanks, swamptooth.
I will search for that.
I just want to compare the Mix Recall buzz with the SV buzz and see if maybe there is some magic incantation within the MR requests which we could use for SV.

The MR requests built on a relatively modern foundation. Furthermore, the process of implementing MR allowed fixing many other elements. For example, you can now copy bus automation, which was iffy at best before. That was an oft-requested feature as well. So, MR not only implemented mix recall, but implemented additional, requested "under the hood" features as part of the process. That made the feature even more desirable to implement.

microapp
I did not say or imply you made anything up.
I assumed there were examples.
I simply wanted to look at them.
You provided some, so thanks.

My apologies, you caught the flak from my dealing with fabricated "facts" and asking where they hell they came from. Given the sequence of posts, I thought that was being reflected back on me.
 
Yes, I'm upset but I really get upset when people make up stuff and pass it off as real. Don't know if they're just too lazy to actually research before they speak, have an agenda, or what. In any event I feel I have to say something or the misinformation will persist.
 
Sometimes I think there's a Gresham's Law of the Internet where bad information drives out good...

Anderton

microapp
 
For the most part this thread is about Cake listening to users and in particular the state of Staff view.
But here is a rough price comparison.
Bought outright by a new user
 
Sonar Platinum $499
Studio One Pro $399
Cubase 8 pro $549
Reason $399
Protools 11 $699
Digital Performer 8 $499
Logic Pro X $199
FL Studio $139
Reaper`$60
Ableton Live 9 $749
 
But on a strictly cost basis you should be using Reaper, yes?
 

To loop back to the topic...not if you want notation. Not only should you avoid Reaper and SONAR if you want notation, you should also pass on Studio One Pro, Reason, FL Studio, and Ableton Live. in other words, more than half of the DAWs in that list DON'T have notation.
 
Also I realize you're not talking about costs going forward, but the list is not really fair to FL Studio, which gives free updates for life. Granted that doesn't give you access to everything, but it's still cool. And don't forget that when you buy SONAR, you get updates which for many other DAWs would be a paid update that occurs sometime after the initial release, so you need to factor that into the initial cost.

Craig,
My point was that Sonar is reasonably priced and not cheap and that cost alone should not be the only reason for choosing a DAW.
I did see that FL Studio is updated free for life and this is impressive.
Also Reaper is rumored to be working on notation for the next release.