Supercomposer

10Ten

Supercomposer


Well, CW is in serious trouble. So many users jump ship, its not looking too good for more future "X"

It sounds funny to use the word future and X in the same sentence.

Oh now I get it! Sonar is my future X-host. That makes me an Ex Sonar user, right?
 
Well last chance to try a re-install for testing will be X1b, if that does not deliver the goods I am outta here and leave the discussion to the fanbois

I was thinking that about 10 years ago calling stuff x whatever was really cool. Your's works too.

Bub


Man I'm starvin'. All this arguing has worked up my appetite.

I'll be back later for an update.

:)

I had pasgetti :D

All worked up over the game (shaking)

I think ...wicked summed it up correctly earlier in a post in this thread when it was written that the OP is just endeavoring to "...set the product (X1) up to fail."

I think the intention of the OP is to stir up negative responses from those who are displeased with X1 in it's current state.

I dont get the whole "americans are good programmers" statement,  I am sure Cakewalk has a lot of programmers from all different countries.

I am just not too sure they all speak the same language  :D

10Ten

thomasabarnes


I think ...wicked summed it up correctly earlier in a post in this thread when it was written that the OP is just endeavoring to "...set the product (X1) up to fail."

I think the intention of the OP is to stir up negative responses from those who are displeased with X1 in it's current state.

Instead he stirred up a lot of negative responses and personal attacks from the good enough crowd.

10Ten:
 
It's not hard for me to believe that's what you think because from reading your posts, mostly every disagreement, to you, is a personal attack. I think what makes me and you clash is that you don't know how to let up, ever, as far as I can see. Tsk, Tsk.

Another hoohaw thread....sigh.

-left hand: "just stop watching these threads, the bad guys are already blocked anyways
-right hand: "fight!"

I am fail

thomasabarnes

Mr Barnes, It would seem that you neglected to read any of this thread. I don't consider disagreement to be a personal attack, but calling people trolls and racists just for disagreeing is a personal attack

 
Some users are calling it as they see it.

And some simply aren't seeing anything.

10Ten

thomasabarnes

Mr Barnes, It would seem that you neglected to read any of this thread. I don't consider disagreement to be a personal attack, but calling people trolls and racists just for disagreeing is a personal attack

Some users are calling it as they see it.

And some simply aren't seeing anything.

And if they are not seeing anything? And so?

Crush


Pretty much a 2 part video showing how to make a full track and use the software. Geared towards ex FL users or newbs to a Sonar style DAW.

This is geared towards the electronic producer looking for the fastest, easiest way to make something in Sonar.

Some approval would be nice as I'm no expert myself. This is just the best way I've figured out how to use the software..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhkpYRQjqzE

Just watched your video-you do not have a clue as to what you are doing in Sonar-now I see the reason for the replies you received. you obviously did all this on purpose to razz1-no problem-Have fun 

thomasabarnes
It's not hard for me to believe that's what you think because from reading your posts, mostly every disagreement, to you, is a personal attack. I think what makes me and you clash is that you don't know how to let up, ever, as far as I can see. Tsk, Tsk. 

His history on this forum would seem to confirm that. He's very finger pointy.

Truth is the OP threw out some pretty wild and baseless statements, my fave being that Boston is actually located somewhere in the Asia I think. 

heheheee

thomasabarnes

Hey, at least he didn't call you guys a "****".

 
Bub:
 
I didn't call you a ****. First,  saying **** is slang, and to me a mockery of a truely mentally disabled person. ****ed is the colloquial term. I used the words "like a ****ed individual," to describe what I feel characterizes your and others behavior of the incessant voicing of the shortcomings of X1.
 
And I use the words "like a ****ed individual," as an attempt to bring to your attention that this repeated vocing of X1 shortcomings is old and commonly known around here, now. Which interprets to me saying, man, give it a break! Cakewalk is working on an update to address issues. If you really want something to be done about the issues you experience with X1, make sure you log a bug report, officially, to Cakewalk.
 

Fail

Just watched your video-you do not have a clue as to what you are doing in Sonar-now I see the reason for the replies you received. you obviously did all this on purpose to razz1-no problem-Have fun

Are you going to make me take a picture of my receipt that I bought this as a serious upgrade to FL (which I have big issues with also)? You think I'm here and upset for fun?

At first I constantly had to research how to get things to work 'quickly' in order to put together a track based for hip hop production. I believe that I'm the first and only person to show how to do this with Sonar. All the other videos are laughable like the 7 part drum series. That is NOT suitable for hip hop production. Yes someone recommended the drop zone and that's what I was looking for.

Then when making the video I noticed all these bugs occurring. Then I kept thinking I was doing something wrong. Then unbelievably I come here to find people are having the same issues. I never would have thought in a million years that Cakewalk or any US based software house would release pretty much broken software. Especially with a reputation to uphold.

Someone made a good suggestion about the quantize and maybe I should have touched on the input quantize... (although when using 'process/quantize' I have to say it was suspicious.. never mind.. could be another bug).

Anyhow I stand by the video. My video is excellent for someone who wants to produce loop based, electronic music.

The answer is not to run in circles and create a spaghetti chain to get a simple drum to play on a tap. Hip Hop producers will not do this. Only 'sound engineer' type producers will. The more complex to do something simple, the more they like it.

I can tell you that Sony Vegas is a 10/10 excellent software. No doubt. I've used it for years and it's fast, reliable, and works.

I'm looking for that same in Audio software and I thought for sure Sonar would be that package. Instead it has this archaic, old-school, illogical work-flow. Not as bad as FL, but still bad enough when I simply cannot play drums.

Now I'm going to look for the Pro Tools m-audio thing and install it. I'll get to the bottom of this and find out which DAW is the best. *IT COULD BE SONAR*. Maybe they are all awful.

Remember I'm talking about hip hop. I need fast work-flow and speed. While FL might SEEM to be the king of this, arranging and mastering a track is terrible. Recording vocals? Forget it. It falls way too short. Especially considering it can't 'undo' half of the things.

In the hip hop game right now people are giving away music for free as the new standard. I have so many requests backed up right now and I can't make them any beats. When they ask, it's usually because they have a paid studio booking coming up and need things on short notice. I need to be able to 'whip' together tracks. This is throughout the modern hip hop world and lmost all are using FL.

I'd like to move away from it to SAVE time, but instead, amazingly, I see a 7 part series on how to mess up a drum sound (which he clearly did at the end of the video.. even my wife said so when I asked what 'sounded better').

The product was CLEARLY not designed with the electronic producer in mind. But that's fine. As long as the workflow does not get in the way of my creativity WHICH IT IS!

This explains the video I made and again I stand by it. I sampled the drums quick and whipped it together in a 2 part video. A video explaining Sonar X1, setup, loop creation, arrangement, vst, beats etc. I didn't touch on the input quantize and should have.

Also the snap is a major, major MAJOR issue for me so I'm going to try the recommendation.

If I find that m-audio Protools edition, I'm going to install it and do the exact same thing and see if it's more 'faster' and lets me do what I want to without the software getting in the way.

Here is a screen of Logic Studio. DOES IT LOOK FAMILIAR?



Edit: Here is someone who understand and wrote a GREAT article about DAW's. See, some of you
guys including myself put all eggs into one basket and since we dedicate so much time getting
comfortable with 1 software, we just stick with what we know. Here is a guy that has used multiple
DAW's and here's his observation:

Audio Editing

This is probably one of the biggest reasons I came back to Pro Tools. The audio editing is second to none. If I want to chop up a region and quickly fix timing issues, I can do it much faster in Pro Tools. Logic can do the exact same functions, but it requires you to use several different modifier keys and edit modes to do different types of edits.
For example, in Pro Tools if I want to simply select a portion of a region and move it, or delete it, I can highlight it with the mouse and press “Delete.” Done. With Logic, I have to select the Marquis tool to highlight the region. Then I have to select the Eraser tool to delete the region. Or I have to use the Scissor tool to make two cuts in the region, then select the newly formed section and press “Delete.”
Again, these aren’t difficult things to master, but Pro Tools takes the blue ribbon for me when it comes to audio editing. http://www.homestudiocorner.com/2009/06/10/why-i-use-pro-tools/

Fog



your from Canada .. name me DAW made there?  

IZ RADAR