MacFurse
When I first started with Cakewalk, years ago.....I mainly used it for midi, creating backing tracks. It was relatively easy and trouble free, but midi editing was still young, and not very good,

I guess if you are a guitarist, wind or string musician, you 'may' see midi as just a tool for creating a backing track. If your are keyboard player, then midi really is the gateway into a composition world. Midi for me has never been abut being a backing track. Midi editing hasn't really changed that much fr most users (That includes me, but nt say Sharke) in 25 years and was good back then too. Sure we have extra tools but we are generally achieving the same thing. The fact that it was set up so well in the 80's and 4 decades later it's essentially the same, kind of says that it's here for the foreseeable future, it does what we need and will need.
 
Adding midi capabilities is what BandLab users will be wanting really.

TheSteven

stickman393
Life's too short for this

Agreed, in the category of let's drop mouse support...
 

LOL 

I hope they keep it. I need it with my virtual samplers and any keys I want to record!

Phoen1xPJ
The MIDI people have spoken!

SUCH SWEET WORDS !!!

I can't live without MIDI - hardware synths and soft synths account for 75% of my tracks.  I started out syncing Cakewalk MIDI to an 8-track Tascam tape recorder using a PPS-1, moved on to syncing with a DA-88 and then went to heaven when Cakewalk Pro Audio came out. 
 
Don't change one hair for me,
Not if you care for me

scook

MacFurse
I guess I'm tongue in check suggesting it get dropped.. but the reality is that Cake has not put a lot into the midi side of the software for sometime.

There were quite a few changes to the MIDI side of SONAR last year. Maybe not the changes you wanted but it was receiving development time. Most of the releases from the first half of 2017 highlighted some MIDI development. Check out this page for the info. I am sure there are also entries in the fixes and enhancement sections too.

I think Cakewalk had always had powerful MIDI features and made really nice and obviously unnoticed improvements along the way from day one. Back in the days when I was using and syncing it to Pro Tools simply as a MIDI sequencer running on a Windows computer to replace my Roland MC 500. Pro Tools had zero MIDI editing support, just simple MMC and MTC support.
 The Roland sequencer only had 100,000 MIDI note capacity per song and songs where stored on floppy discs, a Windows computer had unlimited MIDI note capacity per song and songs where stored on a hard drive.
 I stopped using and experimenting with Cubase SX, because I noticed Cakewalk could always do anything Cubase could do, it just does it differently.
 
Believe me, now matter what it is, the BEST DAW in the world is the DAW you are most familiar with. The learning curve involved by switching DAW's could set you back years in productivity.
 And truth be told, SONAR has been awarded the most MEPA awards several years in a row for developing the most feature rich DAW in the world.
 So maybe it could be wiser to explore and learn how to use the features SONAR has that you haven't already before starting from scratch with another DAW.
 
The new MIDI editing features added in the past year are not only a major break through in editing and composition, in my opinion where a great leap forward for the most useful workflow improvements since Cakewalk added an arpeggio module to every MIDI track.
 
 The ability to click and stretch or lasso any section on the timeline and move it any where you want on the timeline combined with SONAR's latest audio take lane comp editing improvements makes composing and arranging a song quick and easy to place verse, chorus, and bridge sections exactly where I want them and shorten or stretch them out is mind blowing easy. Once I practiced a bit and figured it out.

I checked, its not April 1st, therefore this is a ridiculous thread.
 
 

exitthelemming
Creating original music on a DAW without MIDI support would be like trying to write a novel using just cut and paste from other people's writing. (unless you're recording live instruments of course)

Creating original music on a DAW without MIDI support would be like trying to play an instrument with all my fingers severed at the first knuckle.

WallyG
 
I'm both an audio and a heavy MIDI guy. I switched to Studio One when Sonar development bit the dust. I personally find Studio One's MIDI superior to Sonar. I've heard people bash Studio One's MIDI capabilities, but when I posted "WHY" on the SO site, no one could give specifics. Plenty of SO users love it, but NO specifics. SYSEDIT? Don't use it.
 
What in your opinion does SO miss some advanced MIDI editing capabilities?
 
Thanks,
 
Walt

For one, S1 doesn't support instrument files/definitions.  There were several threads about the issues with S1 Midi in December.  I tested both S1 and Cubase last December after the Sonar fiasco, and I chose Cubase based on its extensive Midi features. I haven't really looked back.  Even as a newcomer hobbyist, I find the Midi in Cubase far better overall than either Sonar or especially S1.  Different people have different needs though.

FAQ Reaper, you are on the wrong wave length. We are CAKEWALK!  And that's all we need for a Reason.
 
BTW, you and rewire Reason to SONAR, and good things happen. 

You can prise Midi only from my cold, dead fingers