Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton) Running stock voltages @ 2.37 Ghz with 431Mhz FSB.
My numbers don't vary like they do on my other computer.

M-Audio Delta 66 ASIO:

1.5 90%
2.9 57%
5.8 41%
8.7 35%
11.6 32%
23.2 28%
46.4 25%

ORIGINAL: Boogie

I can't download the test file anymore. Where'd it go??

Try again. The link seems to work fine for me.

-S

ORIGINAL: Scott Reams

ORIGINAL: Boogie

I can't download the test file anymore. Where'd it go??

Try again. The link seems to work fine for me.

-S

Do you have any updated graph with all the results? I'm planning to build a new DAW and I'm not decided on the CPU .

OK, here's a shootout between old computer and new:

OLD COMPUTER - Carillon AC-1, P4 2.0gHz, Intel 865, 1GB RDRAM, 40/120GB IDE drives, XP SP1, MOTU 896 WDM

46.4 = 48%
23.2 = 53%
11.6 = 62%
5.8 = 80%
2.9 = dead

NEW COMPUTER - AMD64 3500+ 939, ASUS A8V, 2 GB DDR, 80/250 SATA, XP SP1, 828mkII WDM

46.4 = 28%
23.2 = 30%
11.6 = 35%
5.8 = 42%
2.9 = 60%
1.5 = 71%

aahhhhhhhh

still not as good as some of the numbers posted here, but it's a HUGE improvement and I've yet to do any tweaks.

Is this test strictly for SONAR 3?
Or can I run it on my SONAR4SE ?
Thanks
Good stuff here for when I build my new DAW
E

Ok I did it!
here's the numbers ( don't laugh )

AOpen PIII, 866MHz, 1048M pc133 ram, ViaApolloPro133
44.1k / 24bit / 384 I/O
ASIO 5.8 msec / WDM 11.8 mSec
WinXP Pro SP1 tweaked ( musicXP & black viper)

it floats between 64 and 65% under ASIO
and 70-75% under WDM
with 2 efx though it goes into the red (I normally use outboard anyway )

EDIT: for WDM numbers, added chipset numbers
It works fine like this and I don't wanna change anything
PS: Good to see I'm not the only one pushing a PIII to it's limits

this is with HT, Multi-processing engine enabled.
XP Media Center sp1
ATI Mobility Radeon9700

46.4ms = 10-13%

Hmmm... something probably isn't right here. With this score, you've beat all of the systems, including the dual-CPU ones. Perhaps you are missing some plugins?

-Scott

ORIGINAL: Scott Reams

this is with HT, Multi-processing engine enabled.
XP Media Center sp1
ATI Mobility Radeon9700

46.4ms = 10-13%

Hmmm... something probably isn't right here. With this score, you've beat all of the systems, including the dual-CPU ones. Perhaps you are missing some plugins?

-Scott

Sorry Scott, really had it wrong!!!!! didn't see the link at first so I was trying to recreate according to the file description...Now here's my real score!

46.4 = 28-32%

34.8 = 30-33%

23.2 = 32-37%

17.4 = 33-40%

11.6 = 37-45%

8.7 = 40-52%

5.8 = 50-63%

4.4 = 58-87%

2.9 = Stops after 2 sec.

2.2 = Won't engage

Now that's more like it but I don't like it a bit!!!!

According to your graph I should get better results, what do you think?

Kind regards

Ben

ORIGINAL: Scott Reams

According to your graph I should get better results, what do you think?

Try ASIO. Looks like you are using WDM.

-S

I am using ASIO driver, I couldn't get good results with WDM, but that was a few months ago when I was a real Sonar newbie then, so...didn't do the test with WDM then since I didn't know about it, but I couldn't get latency lower than 23.2ms or 34.8ms (WDM). I get around 11.6 - 17.4ms with ASIO. This is with my basic template, to which we paste our old MIDI songs. Maybe I'm asking for too much!? Here's what it looks like:

4 audio tracks for Mics, input monitor, send to Cake verb, main outs.

1 audio track for electric guitar, input monitor, GuitRigDXi insert, send to out 7-8, main outs.

1 audio track for BV, input monitor, send to Cake verb, send to out 5-6, main outs.

1 audio track for acc.guits, input monitor, send to Cake verb, send to out 5-6, main outs.

1 TTS-1 instance with:

output 1 - instruments, send to out 5-6, main outs.

output 2 - Bass wGuitRigDXi insert, send to out 1-2, main outs.

1 TTS-1 instance with:

output 1 - drums, send to Lexicon verb, send to out 3-4, main outs.

1 aux Cake verb (vox, BV)

1 aux Lexicon verb (drums)

1 aux Sonitus verb (sometimes used as replacement for the above or for extra inst.)

So this is about 10 audio tracks, 2 DXi inserts, 3 aux verbs, various count of MIDI tracks assigned to 2 TTS-1 using 3 outputs, nothing really big here, right???...

My numbers seem way high for my CPU and system. I think I must be doing some things wrong, but I'll start with my test results:

System:
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ running @ 2412
MSI K8N Neo Platinum mobo
2x 512kb Corsair DDR RAM
Win XP Pro SP2
M-Audio Delta 1010 WDM drivers
2x UAD-1 v3.7
Sonar 3.1.1 PE
ATi Radeon 9600 series video card w/128 MB

my results WDM
55-56 % @ 46.4ms
56-57 % @ 29ms
58-60 % @ 17.4ms
75% @ 5.8ms
i cannot slide below 5.8 ms and am not sure how you can do this. It does not go any lower.

my results ASIO
75% @ 5.8ms and the slider does not go lower nor does it move up higher.. the audio driver bit depth is greyed at 24bit and the file is 16bit / 44.1

Scott - or anyone who may know:
I have the ATi 9600SE model video card, which has 64-bit memory interface (not 128 as I had thought). Would this possibly be the culprit of my slow PC?

I have checked all my XP tweaks and disabled a few more app's I did not require (using blackviper as my guide). I think I down to hardware as my next investigation...

Thanks for the advice!

EUREKA!
It was in the BIOS config! I just selected 'USE OPTIMIZED SETTINGS" and voila! I have a Sonar3Test ASIO showing the numbers as others have tested. I will (at some point) get to the bottom of what setting(s) was the culprit, but as of now I can get back to mixing...

PS - and after all the digging I had done since last nights discovery, I now have a really streamlined rig! I had so much tweaking into this problem, that I ended up having to re-authorize Windows XP Pro

Thanks for the replies guys!

Standard PC
P4 1.8GHz
Gigabyte 845G Series P4 Titan 533FSB Motherboard
256Mb DDRAM (266MHz)
SBLive5.1 with kX drivers(v5.10.00.3537)
Western Digital 80Gb 8Mb cache 7200rpm
Onboard display adapter(Intel 82845GL 64Mb shared RAM)
LG52x CD-ROM
Philips DVDR1640p 16x DVD-RW

Windows XP Professional with ServicePack 2
Sonar4

WDM/KS (44KHz & 16bits)
40ms 50%
30ms 55%
20ms 63%
10ms 70%
below are not available

ASIO (SBLive locks itself with 48KHz & 16bits if asio selected)
42,66ms 49%
21,33ms 53%
10,07ms 64%
05,30ms 84%
02,70ms dropout immediately
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Hi ppl,

Are the results above average or do i need some tweakin? I need some upgrades lookin above, right? But due to the motherboard's docs my max upgrade should be a P4 2,4GHz. Does it worth it to buy? (1.8 -> 2.4 ?)

Or should i change both m.board and cpu? I need some suggestion about which one wins the war about the performance/price issue? AMD or Intel?

I usually run 16audio 8midi(sf2+DXi)tracks 3effects perchannel 21,33ms (asio) at an average of 70% cpu load. Mostly no d.outs, but sometimes drives me crazy. I only record guitars all the other things are samples, DXis, VSTis, mostly sf2s. I couldn't find a surround monitoring capable 24/96 pci audiocard with an affordable price, so stuck with SBLive.

I'd just ordered a 512Mb DDRAM (400MHz), i guess that will take care of most of the sf2 work.

I'm open for all of your suggestions. Thanks a lot...

The test file contains no audio.

I wanted to try the test, but there is no audio in the file. Can someone give a link to the full test project?

Here are mine:
MSI NEO2 Platinum Athlon 3500+ 1G DDR, RME Fireface 800

ASIO
48 - dropouts
64 - 79-81%
96 - 59-61%
128 - 51%
256 - 37%
512 - 30%
768 - 28%
1024 - 28%

WDM FF800 set at 64 samples in buffer
1.5 - 83% and audio stopped onit's own
2.9 - 55%
4.4 - 45%
5.8 - 40%
7.3 - 37%
8.7 - 35%
10.2 - 33-35%
11.6 - 32-33%
13.1 - 31-32%
15.4 - 30-32%
16 - 30%
17.4 29%
21.8 - 28%

I am thinking I can get better than this. I am not totally convinced my system is tweaked to the hilt yet.