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SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
Wow! I would think that the bug involving copying MIDI data from one track to another (copy-special), without having to make the receiving track the active track, would have gotten top priority.. I don't see this bug as being addressed! Why? This has been an issued since Platinum 22.8 and above. It seems to be a vitally important function, does CW not plan on fixing it? I have sent Problem Reports and I wrote to Noel Borthwick about it because copying and pasting is essential to using a DAW, regardless of whether you're a composer, songwriter, film scorer, or recording engineer. What in the world are the developers thinking, do they not consider this a bug???? Jerry www.jerrygerber.com
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/16 20:06:46
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They may be spending time making sure some long standing bugs don't get baked into the OSX version. Perhaps then they will retro fit them into the PC version. Just a guess, but I'd like it if bugs like this got top priority before we get another way to change the look and feel of the DAW.
Really unclear what drives the decision making process. It's kind of like painting a car with a blown head gasket and a flat tire. Looks real good, doesn't drive any better.
Merry Christmas Jerry!.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/16 20:28:49
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I feel your pain, Jerry, I really do...
As you know, I'd like to see the Staff View fixes happen for a variety of reasons. The last time I talked to the Bakers about Staff View I got the impression they preferred to fix multiple Staff View bugs at once because the code is ancient, and they want to avoid unintended consequences (like blowing up MIDI or something) as they venture into the swamp and start messing with its ecosystem. This was a couple months ago, so someone from CW can chime in if that's no longer correct.
As to when they'll make these changes, I have no idea - but it is on their radar, and I know they've been collecting a list of fixes.
Meanwhile, look on the bright side...at least the note head doesn't disappear any more when using the select tool. I presume all the Staff view fixes that have been done so far have not required venturing too far into the swamp.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/16 20:30:16
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I just updated my Sonar Platinum with this update and now I cant seem to located some plugins that I had purchased in the past. I cannot locate nor can find my Neutron advance, Ozone 7, my wave plugin purchases such as CLA 2, 3, and 76, my NX virtual mixroon plugin, and others. Unless it is listed now some where else in my DAW. Can someone help please?
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/17 01:06:17
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2017 - the year of draining the swamp? 
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/17 01:30:34
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I just updated my Sonar Platinum with this update and now I cant seem to located some plugins that I had purchased in the past. I cannot locate nor can find my Neutron advance, Ozone 7, my wave plugin purchases such as CLA 2, 3, and 76, my NX virtual mixroon plugin, and others. Unless it is listed now some where else in my DAW. Can someone help please?
I don't know how definitive my answer is, but my plug-in manager changed somehow awhile ago and I still don't have it sorted out, and I don't think I'm the only one. I'll give it a go in the morning and post back, but I'm getting annoyed with updates/"improvements" that change my setup without warning it's going to do it automatically.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/17 02:12:36
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I feel your pain, Jerry, I really do...
As you know, I'd like to see the Staff View fixes happen for a variety of reasons. The last time I talked to the Bakers about Staff View I got the impression they preferred to fix multiple Staff View bugs at once because the code is ancient, and they want to avoid unintended consequences (like blowing up MIDI or something) as they venture into the swamp and start messing with its ecosystem. This was a couple months ago, so someone from CW can chime in if that's no longer correct.
As to when they'll make these changes, I have no idea - but it is on their radar, and I know they've been collecting a list of fixes.
Meanwhile, look on the bright side...at least the note head doesn't disappear any more when using the select tool. I presume all the Staff view fixes that have been done so far have not required venturing too far into the swamp.
Hi Craig, It's not a staff view issue, it's a copy & paste issue that also happens when editing in the Event List as well. I've confirmed it and other have as well, that's how I found out that Platinum 22.7 is the last version where the paste-special command works correctly, as expected, and as it always has. The developers have already messed with MIDI, as cut, copy and paste operations have been solid for a long time. Jerry
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/17 03:47:46
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detrocky
I just updated my Sonar Platinum with this update and now I cant seem to located some plugins that I had purchased in the past. I cannot locate nor can find my Neutron advance, Ozone 7, my wave plugin purchases such as CLA 2, 3, and 76, my NX virtual mixroon plugin, and others. Unless it is listed now some where else in my DAW. Can someone help please?
Go into Plugin manager and do a Rescan. But before you do, do a RESET and make sure all the paths are correct in the Plugin Manager
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/17 10:15:50
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jsg
Hi Craig,
It's not a staff view issue, it's a copy & paste issue that also happens when editing in the Event List as well. I've confirmed it and other have as well, that's how I found out that Platinum 22.7 is the last version where the paste-special command works correctly, as expected, and as it always has. The developers have already messed with MIDI, as cut, copy and paste operations have been solid for a long time.
Thanks for the clarification, I'll ask what's up.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/17 13:44:30
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Super pleased to have Sonar working great after update!
I Couldn't get past a hung up vst scan - Melodyne region FX disappeared & couldn't load new plugins so I decided to try the pre release out of desperation.
Update was difficult with error 5 hung at scan set up. Went back to Oct update then back to Dec and finally all fell miraculously into place.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/17 20:25:28
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☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2016/12/17 20:56:04
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....Update was difficult with error 5 hung at scan set up. Went back to Oct update then back to Dec and finally all fell miraculously into place.
Has Cakewalk addressed the issues with the Nov update in the Dec update? I haven't seen any posts from Cakewalk talking about determining the root cause of all the crashes reported here with the Nov update. Walt
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/18 15:12:22
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/18 15:27:35
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Thanks for trying but when I click on links 2-12 I get the following:
Server Error in '/' Application.
Runtime Error Description: An exception occurred while processing your request. Additionally, another exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the first exception. The request has been terminated.
Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/18 15:31:52
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The URLs printed in the message are good, the links are not. If you really want to read the messages, copy the URL text and paste it into your browser location entry field.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/18 15:33:11
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Yep - links aren't working Craig
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/18 15:39:28
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scook
The URLs printed in the message are good, the links are not. If you really want to read the messages, copy the URL text and paste it into your browser location entry field.
I'll give that a shot. Thanks! regards, Rick
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/20 13:20:41
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jsg
Hi Craig,
It's not a staff view issue, it's a copy & paste issue that also happens when editing in the Event List as well. I've confirmed it and other have as well, that's how I found out that Platinum 22.7 is the last version where the paste-special command works correctly, as expected, and as it always has. The developers have already messed with MIDI, as cut, copy and paste operations have been solid for a long time.
Thanks for the clarification, I'll ask what's up.
Thanks. FYI, I wrote an email to Noel Borthwick about the copy and paste issues. It affects everyone, not just staff view users (weird that I have to write this, as if the staff view should get less attention, which it should not in any DAW that purports to be for professional musicians). Jerry
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/20 13:54:54
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jsg
Thanks. FYI, I wrote an email to Noel Borthwick about the copy and paste issues. It affects everyone, not just staff view users (weird that I have to write this, as if the staff view should get less attention, which it should not in any DAW that purports to be for professional musicians).
Jerry
Sonar is not for professional musicians ?
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/20 14:05:07
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Yep - links aren't working Craig
None of this is real anyway. matter of fact, im not even sure im typing on a computer right now. this could be a ham sandwich.  What is the copy / paste bug we are talking about anyway ? Not sure I've seen the effects of this bug myself. not to say its not there but I often copy midi from track to track (did it today) but didn't notice anything out of the norm.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/20 14:58:04
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chuckebaby
What is the copy / paste bug we are talking about anyway ? Not sure I've seen the effects of this bug myself.
not to say its not there but I often copy midi from track to track (did it today) but didn't notice anything out of the norm.
If you are interested, the documentation is in this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3506138. The bug is there, easy to reproduce, and affects anyone who uses Paste Special and the Destination Starting Track to paste clips, MIDI, or any event and expects the data to go to a track other than the Current track. Hope this helps, -- Ron
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/20 16:07:53
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They may be spending time making sure some long standing bugs don't get baked into the OSX version. Perhaps then they will retro fit them into the PC version.
This kind of concern about the diversion/dilution of Windows development in a port to Mac OS, was one of the main reasons that us old Windows curmudgeons thought a port would be undesirable. But I think we have been assured that Cakewalk is capable of walking and chewing gum simultaneously.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/20 17:39:53
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chuckebaby
What is the copy / paste bug we are talking about anyway ? Not sure I've seen the effects of this bug myself.
not to say its not there but I often copy midi from track to track (did it today) but didn't notice anything out of the norm.
If you are interested, the documentation is in this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3506138.
The bug is there, easy to reproduce, and affects anyone who uses Paste Special and the Destination Starting Track to paste clips, MIDI, or any event and expects the data to go to a track other than the Current track.
Hope this helps,
-- Ron
Thanks Ron. Possibly the reason I didn't see it. I don't often use Special Paste. The only reason I see using Special Paste is for repetitive Pastes, would this be accurate ?
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/20 18:30:08
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chuckebaby
What is the copy / paste bug we are talking about anyway ? Not sure I've seen the effects of this bug myself.
not to say its not there but I often copy midi from track to track (did it today) but didn't notice anything out of the norm.
If you are interested, the documentation is in this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3506138.
The bug is there, easy to reproduce, and affects anyone who uses Paste Special and the Destination Starting Track to paste clips, MIDI, or any event and expects the data to go to a track other than the Current track.
Hope this helps,
-- Ron
I might add that this error report is still in state New, so it hasn't even been opened. Let alone fixed.
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Re: SONAR 2016.12 Early Access is now available!
2016/12/22 12:20:05
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chuckebaby
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chuckebaby
What is the copy / paste bug we are talking about anyway ? Not sure I've seen the effects of this bug myself.
not to say its not there but I often copy midi from track to track (did it today) but didn't notice anything out of the norm.
If you are interested, the documentation is in this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3506138.
The bug is there, easy to reproduce, and affects anyone who uses Paste Special and the Destination Starting Track to paste clips, MIDI, or any event and expects the data to go to a track other than the Current track.
Hope this helps,
-- Ron
Thanks Ron.
Possibly the reason I didn't see it. I don't often use Special Paste.
The only reason I see using Special Paste is for repetitive Pastes, would this be accurate ?
The reason to use Special Paste is to paste material from one track to another, either at the same location or another location. If you you regular paste, you have to make sure the track you are pasting to is the active track, but with special paste you don't have to do that, as you choose the destination track in the paste dialogue box. Jerry www.jerrygerber.com
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