I know I shouldn't but sometimes I just feel possessed to chime in on some of this:

i wanna make music WITHOUT ISSUE

ah...have you considered a TEAC 4 track ?

Bill -
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While the tone of the OP's diatribe is lacking, he has some points, which could have been make in a more acceptable manner:  
1)  It is noteworthy that some DAW software seems to be more forgiving of hardware configuration.
 
2)  Mixcraft is a great value for what it is... and it is not a "toy"
 
http://www.acoustica.com/mixcraft/pdf/Keyboard_Magazine_Review_Dec_2012.pdf
 
3)  The improvements from version 4 through 6 are quite remarkable
 
4)  They used a public beta program - smart move

Bub


I still have my cassette based Tascam 8-Track.

I can emphatically say, without a doubt, I have never lost a moments work in the 20 years I've owned it.

It's never once automatically rewound the tape, erased it, and left it blank.

;)

You obviously were not using the cakewalk one.


Just kidding cakewalk. 


But hardware does have its advantages. But disadvantages also. We still use a tascam msr24. Maintenance is expensive and difficult when something breaks which has happened. 

WDI

Bub


I still have my cassette based Tascam 8-Track.

I can emphatically say, without a doubt, I have never lost a moments work in the 20 years I've owned it.

It's never once automatically rewound the tape, erased it, and left it blank.

;)

You obviously were not using the cakewalk one.


Just kidding cakewalk. 


But hardware does have its advantages. But disadvantages also. We still use a tascam msr24. Maintenance is expensive and difficult when something breaks which has happened. 

@WDI,
 
You sig indicates that you are using Sonar 7 PE on XP.  That's pretty remarkable.
 
Other than the new releases of Sonar not providing anything you needed or that your setup is uber stable, why have you stayed on 7 PE, and is there anything which continues to work better for you than on newer releases?

Truth is that you simply wouldn't be a dope for using Reaper or Studio One or Mixcraft, those DAW's don't fu_k with your mix every day and get in the way of putting out the goods. But using Sonar, well hey, enjoy the incessant bugs and anomalies that just keep popping up day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, upgrade after upgrade, decade after decade. HULLOOOOO? Biff this sh_t until cakewalk stops taking you for a ride people, how long are you gonna let them keep yanking your chain. Clearly, going by Sonar's track-record for the last decade Cakewalk needs a new head-programmer and a proper team of coders who know what the hell they are doing. No DAW on the planet has the disgusting track-record that Sonar has, and continues to have. If i owned Cakewalk I would have sent the head-programmer out the door years ago, he's a total dud, and has amply proven that he's an amateur.  

I currently have a song running 19 individual softsynths each on their own track, plus 18 audio tracks, plus tonnes of realtime midi, and over 120 effects ALL RUNNING IN REALTIME STRAIGHT OFF THE CPU WITH NO CRACKS OR POPS AND AT ZERO LATENCY, and still my CPU IS ONLY AT 21%. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A PROFESSIONAL DAW. Oh hang-on, i forgot, we are fu_kwits for not doing a 5 year diploma in Windows configuration and hardware research LOL, you guys and your 2 cent come-backs are just a sad lot. The facts show that Sonar is a lemon, plain and simple, it has been from the start, and just keeps getting worse, but Mixcraft has shown itself to be a reliable competent full-fledged Pro DAW, which only costs $149 i might add; I don't need to use a multi-fader console, i make dance music with high-end analog-emulation software plugins and a midi controller, and all's good here.

And obviously as you can see by the KeyBoard magazine review, i ain't talking sh_t. And just wait until Mixcraft 7 comes out, ho ho ho.

Looks like all the gainsayers and cockroaches have gone quiet and run for cover; where are you? Oh, you downloaded the Mixcraft demo did you. Well all i can say is...EAT THAT!

When cakewalk takes it's customers seriously and starts to cull most of the bloat, and also gets a new programming team and totally redesigns the user-interface plus strips all the legacy-code out to make a brand-new DAW that actually works without a hitch and runs beautifully on standard computer soundcards, then i'll take another look, but by then it will be too late, I'll be rewiring Mixcraft 7 into Studio One III and thus Sonar will be utterly irrelevant, along with all its sub-par bullsh_t and antics. Pro DAW my ass, you guys need to get a new sense of humour (<Yes, that's British spelling) HeHeHe

Mr. Particle why are you here? What do you expect from us? Do you really believe you are going to recruit converts?

Most of us use X2 Producer for reasons that go far beyond your requirements. The program you are touting is not even as good as X1 LE. And that is free. 

i aint download that,i have a proffessinal DAW in sonar x2.
where are these highly enginnered songs your producing.?
you can see in my sig,i have my songs there that i created in sonar x1/x2
id like to hear these mixcraft crations you haveth to offer ?
love to benchmark it then tell you why you only paid 150 for it...lol

no one cares about mix craft7,dont fool yourself.
your a very angry child trying to ruin any review cakewalk has on building a daw of the future.
no who's gone silient? you forget your meds man?
seriously.thats all a bunch of babble.like we care about mixcraft 7?
sorry,im not interested.

keep in mind,this forum was given to you by cakewalk to help you in solving problems not smearing your hate for cakewalk.
thats childish,you have hardware problems? deal with it and move on.
no need to fill these threads with childish babble of"i have a new girlfriend and she is sooo much better than you.

you need to grow up man.trying to help you by saying to.

i make edm, im not aggressive

He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!

Sven that boy is a total nutter, if he wasnt venting here he'd be out howling with the dogs, rabid and in heat

Ah well Cheer up, God.
 
You know what they say: some things in life are bad. They can really make you mad. Other things just make you swear and curse. When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble; give a whistle, and this'll help things turn out for the best. And... always look on the bright side of life...
 
Or install a new sound card or play World or Warcraft.

Hi godparticular,
you think to have a good sense for carnival jokes and the most of us 
are not aware, that it´s carnival season.
Many of us have really thought,you´re a ....ocksmoker,
but you are  trying hard to be funny.

Have fun !

Right, the esteemed Billy Arnell was a producer of fine EDM and people here had nothing but praise for his character. It's an age/generational thing. Godparticle comes across as a very childish person who is too immature to conduct himself in an amiable manner. 

sharke


Just 19 soft synths? I regularly run 25+ without problems. Really don't know what your point is there. But anyway, we're still waiting for you to post links to some of your work. Why not do it? Because at the minute you're just another hot headed Internet kiddie who's posturing behind a computer keyboard. 

SvenArne, I also don't know what it is about EDM producers. I myself dabble in EDM and I never had the urge to parade myself like such a prick on an Internet forum. I think it's a combination of Generation-Y (notoriously diva-like, with grossly inflated unearned self esteem and a desperate need to be seen as "urban" and "edgy") and an excessive amount of testosterone. I'm betting he has an ongoing acne problem. 

I had my dark electro/twisted EBM period. I was using Sonar at that time. Though people would sometimes brag about how Reason was better, or Cubase or whatever, upon hearing the results, they usually shut up. The first thing an incompetent or uninspired individual will blame is his tools.


Likewise, someone who's inspired or a pro will make the tool do what he want. My brother in law's studio is still running an old 2004 Mac G4 and Pro Tools TDM 5.8 IIRC. It's actually funny to speak to someone who's so unaffected by the new this and that and, rightfully, totally confident in his own abilities and his rig. He can literally pull off anything with his set up, which at first sight, really isn't optimized for certain genres. 


And the truth is, the records I've heard coming out of his studio put 99% of what I've heard on the web to shame.

Rain

sharke


Just 19 soft synths? I regularly run 25+ without problems. Really don't know what your point is there. But anyway, we're still waiting for you to post links to some of your work. Why not do it? Because at the minute you're just another hot headed Internet kiddie who's posturing behind a computer keyboard. 

SvenArne, I also don't know what it is about EDM producers. I myself dabble in EDM and I never had the urge to parade myself like such a prick on an Internet forum. I think it's a combination of Generation-Y (notoriously diva-like, with grossly inflated unearned self esteem and a desperate need to be seen as "urban" and "edgy") and an excessive amount of testosterone. I'm betting he has an ongoing acne problem. 

I had my dark electro/twisted EBM period. I was using Sonar at that time. Though people would sometimes brag about how Reason was better, or Cubase or whatever, upon hearing the results, they usually shut up. The first thing an incompetent or uninspired individual will blame is his tools.


Likewise, someone who's inspired or a pro will make the tool do what he want. My brother in law's studio is still running an old 2004 Mac G4 and Pro Tools TDM 5.8 IIRC. It's actually funny to speak to someone who's so unaffected by the new this and that and, rightfully, totally confident in his own abilities and his rig. He can literally pull off anything with his set up, which at first sight, really isn't optimized for certain genres. 


And the truth is, the records I've heard coming out of his studio put 99% of what I've heard on the web to shame.

I admire those who don't get caught up with the "latest and greates", and just continue to crank out great music with what they have.
 
It comes down to a stable environment and knowing your tools inside and out.