I think, if you need a sampler, buy a 3rd party one or use a free one.
Cakewalk should use the resources to make the core audio, midi and notation side stronger.
Providing a sampler is not its core business.

coolbass
I think, if you need a sampler, buy a 3rd party one or use a free one.
Cakewalk should use the resources to make the core audio, midi and notation side stronger.
Providing a sampler is not its core business.

True.  No mention of "Samplers" here
 

coolbass
I think, if you need a sampler, buy a 3rd party one or use a free one.
Cakewalk should use the resources to make the core audio, midi and notation side stronger.
Providing a sampler is not its core business.

 
I do have a pretty nice sampler . It's called The ESX 24 and it does everything I want a sampler to do .
 
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coolbass
I think, if you need a sampler, buy a 3rd party one or use a free one.
Cakewalk should use the resources to make the core audio, midi and notation side stronger.
Providing a sampler is not its core business.

True.  No mention of "Samplers" here
 

A sampler can be an innovative virtual instrument. Cakewalk's "core business" is computer based music production, is it not?

That was meant as humor.  Or humour.

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chuckebaby
My main thing is how ?
where is Sonar supposed to come up with this Sampler ?
are they to make one from scratch ? use a 3rd party and pay a royalty fee ?
 
it might seem simple to do but designing any kind of plug in, to work well within Sonar isn't just a matter of throwing together a GUI with some buttons.
 
I think there is a little more to it than just "here is your Sampler'

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but one would hope the bakers could reuse code from Beatscape, Scratchpad (iOS), or even Kinetic -- as well as RXP ,SFZ, Drop Zone, and  mentioned previously. It seems to me the pieces are all there.
 
I find myself wondering how much the departure of René G. Ceballos (the rgc of rgc:audio that Cakewalk purchased in 2005) has affected the direction of Cakewalk? He had his hands on a lot of this stuff.

if those pieces are there, (Beatscape,Cyclone) then why not use them now ?
if your argument is "They are dated" then how are the Bakers supposed to reuse the code from these products ?
 
 

chuckebaby
 
if those pieces are there, (Beatscape,Cyclone) then why not use them now ?
if your argument is "They are dated" then how are the Bakers supposed to reuse the code from these products ?

I'm just offering suggestions here, Chuck, not a blueprint.
 
For my own use case...
 
1.) I don't own Beatscape, and I'm guessing most here don't either.
 
2.) Cyclone is only 32-bit. :(
 
Another suggestion, maybe Cakewalk could offer Beatscape as a Sonar Pro/Platinum benefit? Unsupported, of course.

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1.) I don't own Beatscape, and I'm guessing most here don't either.
 
 
 
 

If you have Sonar 8 Producer you do.

Maybe I am just too old school, but to me a sampler (in hardware terms) could record  a sample, edit a sanple and playback a sample. While a number of plug ins mentioned above will do the edit and playback, it will 90% of the time require a stand alone to record a sample whether it is live or as part of a stream of non copyrighted material.
For the last two pre-requisites, here are a lot of these about, I have just bought Iris 2 which will do two out of three, but also have numerous others including simpler which also does the same two out of three.
It is how you record the samples in the first place that is of interest for me who wants to create my own samples as opposed to using library stock.
 
Not exactly helpful I know, but it helps define the full scope of what is required from a sampler.
 
 

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2.) Cyclone is only 32-bit. :(
 

Cyclone cannot be 32bit only or it would be unavailable in 64bit SONAR. Cyclone is a DXi.

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scook
 
Cyclone cannot be 32bit only or it would be unavailable in 64bit SONAR. Cyclone is a DXi.

I stand corrected.

 
There's much bigger issues with Cyclone than that anyway, It's ridiculously buggy 

John
I think we need to clearly define what we mean by sampler. 

For my own use case, I would be perfectly happy with something along the lines of Ableton's Simpler or Studio One's SampleOne, as the OP suggested. Of course, if the bakers want to drop an integrated TX16WX on us, I welcome the opportunity to have at it.
 
I don't need any sample content/libraries, as I have plenty of loop/sample packs and I can create my own.

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abacab
Before you can create something, you would need to hammer out the functional requirements and design specifications.

OK, let me try:
- Ability to record samples within the plug-in
- Ability to slice, loop, cut ... (edit) the sample
- Support to create keymaps
- Stretching & transposing of samples
- synth functionality (excluding the OSC)
 
= basicly one of the great synth like Rapture with an additional window to do the first four points...

That's a pretty good summary.

a sampler is prime candidate for a paid add-on imo

Reason Essentials looks interesting for live sampling.  The NN-XT Sampler and Redrum drum computer are demonstrated in this short tutorial.
 
Reason Micro Tutorial - Live Sampling 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZp4ihGyrpM

BobF
After reading this thread, I checked and found I do have DropZone (x32) installed.  I instantiated it and played with a few presets.  Looks to be a cool little sampler.  I'm not sure how much work it would take, but if this was ported to x64 it might be a good one to add to Plat.

Maybe, but it seems to be missing a lot of "sampler" features.  It cannot record or do wave editing.  It's a basic sample playback synth.
 
I'm guessing that Dropzone would need a good bit of code added to even begin to look like TX16Wx, so if you are going to drag and drop your waves into a sampler, might as well use that.