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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/11 12:48:39
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AnthonyMangos Now they accepted my serial number and I've installed the Addictive drums and the three packs that I get. Don't ask me. I copied the serial number last night too. I routed the 64 bit path to my desktop and then it installed.
lol... as I was typing. Glad you got it sorted. AD2 really does have some cool sounds. I got the Fairfax 1 kit, the Indie Kit and the Metal Kit. All quite useable for what they are. Have fun.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/12 02:04:32
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bapu I once had a horse and now I have a car. Where do I put the hay? Man I am confused.
Use Grass instead of Hay--And put in Gas Tank...
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/12 06:59:15
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Beepster It's just the installation and initial learning curve that's gonna be annoying.
Love it beepster. Alas, it's completely wrong.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/12 07:10:04
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bapu I once had a horse and now I have a car. Where do I put the hay? Man I am confused.
michaelw Use Grass instead of Hay--And put in Gas Tank...
Smoke the grass and eat the horse, will produce gas which you can use for your car.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/12 08:15:35
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Go to original post and you can edit the title there. Maybe change to something like: Sonar Professional .. new user issues might attract more hints and tips for other new users in the future + you could add more of your own workarounds and discoveries .. help others in the future :D
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/12 08:23:07
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williamcopper
Beepster It's just the installation and initial learning curve that's gonna be annoying.
Love it beepster. Alas, it's completely wrong.
For someone who wanted to be ignored you're sure going about it in a funny way.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/12 15:44:56
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AnthonyMangos Now can I change the title to 'Like Sonar Professional
OK, so do it (please).
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AnthonyMangos
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 06:37:39
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Well - I still haven't gotten a sound out of it. Started playing with session drummer. Programmed a beat at the bottom. Couldn't get playback. Closed the program and came back. Where before it had the drums labeled ( hh, kick, etc. ). Now they are labeled in notes?? C#, D, D#, etc. I honestly thought I'd be at the point of "should a quadruple track heavy guitars or just double track and copy those two parts?" Should I put compression on the bass and play with abandon or does it sound better to play the part at an even level without it? I was able to make pretty professional sounding stuff with PA9. I just don't see myself ever getting to that point right now with this. I really really miss recording.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 07:21:06
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AnthonyMangos Well - I still haven't gotten a sound out of it. Started playing with session drummer. Programmed a beat at the bottom. Couldn't get playback. Closed the program and came back. Where before it had the drums labeled ( hh, kick, etc. ). Now they are labeled in notes?? C#, D, D#, etc. I honestly thought I'd be at the point of "should a quadruple track heavy guitars or just double track and copy those two parts?" Should I put compression on the bass and play with abandon or does it sound better to play the part at an even level without it? I was able to make pretty professional sounding stuff with PA9. I just don't see myself ever getting to that point right now with this. I really really miss recording.
You really need to do a groove3 course. www.groove3.com Seriously! I AM trying to be helpful. Cheers.
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AnthonyMangos
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 07:39:50
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Please don't read tone into anything, I call it like it is....... I just went to that sight - I have to buy the course? To program and get one measure of one beat? At this time I was laying harmony guitars on PA9. By the next week, I was putting envelope filters on tracks and mixing with record automation in the Console View. I'm getting sick of listening to 10 year old Plus recordings.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 07:55:44
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Up to you if you want to learn Sonar or not. It would be probably be of huge benefit to you.. But then I'm not 'you'.
Most of us haven't learned this product or other DAWs to get poor results. Sonar can be regarded as an emulation of a standard recording studio... If you don't want to get into this then get a tape recorder.
The analagy is .. If you decided to buy and fly a fighter jet would you expect be able to fly it straight away? Answer is yes... If you read the manual... You probably could take off first time, but after that you will probably crash it without training yourself up.
If you set aside 6 to 12 hours of your life you will benefit. If you are prepared, if you aren't then you arent, stay where you are... Do not pass go..... Are you prepared to learn a skillset or not?
There are free YouTube vids available, but I strongly recommend a groove3 subscription. Black Friday coming up. Nobody has to do anything of course that's your bag!
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 08:02:45
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SWA have uploaded the "Sonar X2 Complete" series to youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR1DLE2UIfM&list=PLKRYWdEpbc5PgUgvrNuSvVyfv5qkll0qj This is the reference I use to get a quick refresher on pretty much everything in Sonar (and BOUGHT from the Cake store). IMO... this series blows the Groove3 ones out of the water (but the groove3 ones are helpful, particularly the Eli Kransberg ones). Even though it's a couple versions old almost everything is done the same way (except for Comping). Now you have what you need to figure it all out. Only thing that can stop you now is you. Enjoy.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 08:19:36
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Beepster, Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. Doktor, to be clear, Cakewalk PA9 was the old 'Sonar'. It did everything I needed and was a recording studio. So the tape recorder reference is not apt. My 2002 Dell crashed and I was forced to upgrade everything. The Delta 1010 soundcard was no longer supported by Windows 10 and I wasn't sure if PA9 would still work with a new computer, etc. It was probably time. I have spent 6 - 12 hours. As for the fighter jet analogy, so climbing in the cockpit for 6 - 12 hours and going for it with a groove3 video tutorial is the way to go? I'll read a good manual first before even going to the hangar. These days I need to find youtube links, tutorials, etc. Only needed one book to get going before. Right now I just need basic recording, and mixing. All of the advanced editing, bells and whistles I don't need. - I can score a drum part and play the guitar and bass.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 08:27:05
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AnthonyMangos Beepster, Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. Doktor, to be clear, Cakewalk PA9 was the old 'Sonar'. It did everything I needed and was a recording studio. So the tape recorder reference is not apt. My 2002 Dell crashed and I was forced to upgrade everything. The Delta 1010 soundcard was no longer supported by Windows 10 and I wasn't sure if PA9 would still work with a new computer, etc. It was probably time.  I have spent 6 - 12 hours. As for the fighter jet analogy, so climbing in the cockpit for 6 - 12 hours and going for it with a groove3 video tutorial is the way to go? I'll read a good manual first before even going to the hangar.  These days I need to find youtube links, tutorials, etc. Only needed one book to get going before. Right now I just need basic recording, and mixing. All of the advanced editing, bells and whistles I don't need. - I can score a drum part and play the guitar and bass.
If you want one book that'll get you started: http://www.amazon.com/SONAR-X3-Power-Comprehensive-Guide/dp/1305090195/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447939538&sr=8-1&keywords=sonar+power It's for X3, not the latest version, but the things you are struggling with will be laid out for you. Regards, Dan
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 09:36:16
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Anthony, Just wanted to jump in and let you know that the 1010 does work in win10. I was a little surprised but did the upgrade to see if I needed a new interface. Win 10 took it and ran. That I can verify. Stick with it my man. Baby steps and it will get easier and easier.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 09:38:17
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@Anthony. Fair enough, you still have to learn it or not. Up to you if you want to or not. It's going to be harder and more time consuming for you in the long run though to search around and pick and choose the features you think you need (if you can find them), rather than go through a course sequentially. Take it from me... First year I scratched around the surface myself... Wasted a lot of time. Same boat as you (used other DAWs). You are still going to need to learn a new product... Or just don't.. Your choice.. Cheers.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/11/19 09:51:13
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 09:42:47
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AnthonyMangos Beepster, Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. Doktor, to be clear, Cakewalk PA9 was the old 'Sonar'. It did everything I needed and was a recording studio. So the tape recorder reference is not apt. My 2002 Dell crashed and I was forced to upgrade everything. The Delta 1010 soundcard was no longer supported by Windows 10 and I wasn't sure if PA9 would still work with a new computer, etc. It was probably time.  I have spent 6 - 12 hours. As for the fighter jet analogy, so climbing in the cockpit for 6 - 12 hours and going for it with a groove3 video tutorial is the way to go? I'll read a good manual first before even going to the hangar.  These days I need to find youtube links, tutorials, etc. Only needed one book to get going before. Right now I just need basic recording, and mixing. All of the advanced editing, bells and whistles I don't need. - I can score a drum part and play the guitar and bass.
Hi, Anthony, Your Delta 1010 should work on Windows 10. A forum mate stated that it's working fine and he hadn't any issues so far.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 10:27:54
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I already have the quad capture installed and my new computer didn't have the pin connection. I bought Garrigus Sonar X3 book and have read the first few chapters- the section on Session Drummer wasn't much help. Cakewalk Power was revelatory back in the day. The only suggestion Garrigus ever made in that book I didn't like was to use the sim amp plug ins on vocals. LOL. That didn't really work - but then again who sings through a Marshall? I'm setting aside 4 hours tonight to get Sonar routed through my sound card and playback working.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 10:59:11
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Anthony, What you are wanting to do, record audio, draw automation, just record... Those can be done just as easily on SPP as they were in PA9. I've been using this software since the original Pro Audio and would upgrade every 3 to 4 changes. PA to Sonar was a minor jump. Numbered Sonar to the "X" series was quite a leap, up in learning curve, down in quality. By X3 I had it figured out pretty well and the quality had risen. Platinum Pro is the best yet, and the subscription model (if you were a prior user and get the "deal") is a great way to stay updated and the wife does not have as bad a knee jerk over $15 a month as she did over $150-200 every year or two to buy it outright. Please, take the time to learn it. It is worth the effort. My suggestion is this; here is a link to the simplest way to use the help file in case you have not had a direct link posted yet (I did skip about the 4 pages of the thread so someone may have already posted this link) you can access this from your device or other computer to read like a book if needed: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=toc.htmlIf that does not give you the info you want I would do a google search on the the particular issue you are having, even if the result is for X2 or X3, watch the video, read the tutorial or written directions as it may unlock the "missing menu" step to help you unlock the missing link to what you are trying to accomplish. There are hundreds of instructional pieces out there that are FREE, be it from Cake TV's own videos or user created. You don't have to necessarily subscribe to Groove to find good instruction. As for session drummer 3, decent sounding, horrible implementation. I almost always "play" my drum parts on electronic drums, quantize and make my own loops. For triggered loops, Session Drummer is not bad and is often easier to make "sit in a mix" than the more ambitious AD turns out to be. I find AD is MUCH more user friendly in the realm of just drag and dropping pre-made grooves. Welcome to the modern Cakewalk family. We will remain here to help.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 12:27:10
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@Anthony... The Power book is indeed a great guide (I don't have the X3 one but if it's anything like previous editions it is good for getting going). However I still HIGHLY encourage you to watch the vids I linked to. They are not a walkthrough style tutorial that shows just one or two workflows or techniques (as most vids are). It is more like a very thorough guided tour of pretty much all the areas you are likely to use. It is dry, to the point and free of "opinion" type commentary/procedures. It is broken down into sections too so you don't have to watch through all 9 hours (or however long gone uploaded). For similar vids (from the same dude) about all the synths/instruments and effects there are two other video series that you'll probably have to buy (I don't think SWA has uploaded them to youtube). They can be found in the Cake store and go on sale from time to time. Just look for the SWA Producer Effects (for effects) and SWA Sonar Instruments (synths). Those aren't the exact names but I'm sure you'll find them. THose are also a little older but most of the instruments/effects remain and there have only been a few extra additions. I think SWA has put out some new vids for Sonar Platinum. Also if you haven't done it already go through the tutorials at the start of the Reference Guide that came with Sonar. It's pretty basic but will show you how to get around and get things done. You can then use that basic knowledge/experience to delve in deeper and use the terminology to ask more accurate questions about stuff here on the forum. As for routing to and from your interface with Sonar that is covered in the SWA X2 vids. You of course have to make sure the actual unit is installed properly first though before Sonar can do anything with it so look at the interface manual. Cheers.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 12:49:21
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In addition to the SWA Complete SONAR X2 link Beepster gave you, ShellStaX posted the full list of chapters to make it easier to navigate (the YouTube list just has numbers). That set is a good reference for many things, although I freely admit I have little patience to watch videos end-to-end, and that set is over 9 hours of content. The local SONAR reference manual (pdf file which installs to the SONAR program directory from the CCC "SONAR Local Documentation" in the "SONAR Professional" tree when expanded (at the bottom of that tree)) I have made a shortcut to on my desktop as that is keyword searchable and often fastest for me to start with. [semi-rant] I can commiserate with the OP, as I tend to harp on the "ease of use" aspect for a totally new DAW user and someone who has used PA9 voicing the same issues just adds fuel to my fire. Your comment about just wanting to track drives the point even deeper, as no one buying a DAW first time should be facing "Oh yeah, spend X hours of intense research and you will be back to where you were in your 4-track days." It seems folks who have already invested 1000s of hours (no joke) seem to expect others to relive the same growing pains, when the average parent wants better for their children. It is often very easy to explain the parent/child analogy to anyone, but communicating a specific application often gets pushback as "foreign thought." [end rant] I am not sure if I caught all of the detail here, but getting your audio interface online (with good buffer settings for your system) and actually tracking is #1. Have you tried opening PA9 files you have made with SOANR? Those should open but may need the interface swapped (will prompt you on open). You can then save those with a new project name and look at tracks, etc., to see how SONAR "looks" for the same routing. For jumping into MIDI, a project template or even using a tutorial file as a template is a decent start - do not be shy to take an existing project file and deleting the audio/MIDI data from the tracks to save you routing time initially. Going forward, this forum is probably the fastest feedback you can get on things. With a good descriptive title (very important) and detailed description of your hardware (can put in your signature) and what you want to do, responses are often quick and equally detailed. Definitely make use of this to break out specific questions by post... as you can see from your first venture generic statements often pull erratic comments on you.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 12:58:36
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Thanks for the heads up on the list, mettelus. I had only heard tell of the series being on youtube (probably shellsta's post) and did a search for it this morning for Anthony. I didn't bother watching them/looking at the titles because I own the series (which has the titles attached to the vids). Honestly I'm surprised SWA released them for free on YT. I hope Karl is still getting paid for those. He obviously worked extremely hard putting them together.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 14:21:35
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mettelus [semi-rant] I can commiserate with the OP, as I tend to harp on the "ease of use" aspect for a totally new DAW user and someone who has used PA9 voicing the same issues just adds fuel to my fire. Your comment about just wanting to track drives the point even deeper, as no one buying a DAW first time should be facing "Oh yeah, spend X hours of intense research and you will be back to where you were in your 4-track days." It seems folks who have already invested 1000s of hours (no joke) seem to expect others to relive the same growing pains, when the average parent wants better for their children. It is often very easy to explain the parent/child analogy to anyone, but communicating a specific application often gets pushback as "foreign thought." [end rant]
Very, very well said.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/19 14:58:36
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FWIW... I was able to use Sonar (X1) as a simple tracker/mixer within a couple hours of having it installed (but I did have some hardware issues that had to be sorted out to avoid clicks and dropouts). The basics are not that hard to figure out IF you go through the tuts. Insert a track(s), set your inputs, arm the track(s), press record. Move the faders on the console to balance the levels of what you've recorded. Export from the master (which all the track outputs default to). It's actually way simpler than the old hardware multi trackers. No ping ponging, reading bizarro manuals that have been translated from Japanese to English, deciphering strange routing schemes, hooking up to external tape decks for export, etc... and getting much better results than the hissy/craptacular cassette tape output of those old units. To go deeper? Hellz ya. It's way more complicated... but it's a PRO piece of software. It's not supposed to be "easy". It's supposed to do WTF you need it to. The "easy" factor is there as much as it can be but if you dumb it down too much it will no longer be able to accomplish the "pro" level results. And yeah... I do think some things could be easier/more straightforward but I'm not the one coding this behemoth nor can I anticipate the extremely broad needs of Cake's user base. I also don't expect to install a pro video editing program and immediately become Coppola overnight either. This sh*t is hard and requires patience/study/work. That's just the way it is. No DAW worth its salt is going to be any different. Cheers.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
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☄ Helpfulby robert_e_bone 2015/11/19 22:32:21
Man, I have felt his pain. When first starting with an ancient Cakewalk years ago - about pulled my hair out figuring it out. With a few of the upgrades along the way - about pulled my hair out. When we switched all our home computers from PC to Mac (apart from my computer for Sonar) - about put my fist through the screen several times. But in the end - I loved each product more than its predecessor, and the steep steep learning curve made me way better at using it because I hung in and figured it out. For each of those I used manuals - written or on-line, whatever I had - and eventually muddled through. But to me the single biggest benefit of Sonar is this forum - John Then when you get stuck come here and ask a question. We are here 24 7.
I try hard not to bother everyone with stuff I should figure out on my own - but when you need help, this is far and away the best forum of any software support group for any product (actually software OR otherwise) I've ever known. And I'll take immediate input from a bunch of active users over a manual that may or may not have the answer I need any day. I hope the OP gives it a shot - learning any new software is a major headache, but with great software like this it's absolutely worth it.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/23 18:51:43
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I'm making progress. I have sound!! Thanks Beepster, the SWA tutorials helped (watched parts 1 -3) - turns out I had everything installed and routed correctly - but for some reason the QuadCapture defaulted to MME32 and I changed it to ASIO. Without the tutorial I never would have figured that out. I have sound and can hear the addictive drums; that's the only thing I changed. My friend gave me a method to create a drum map. I now see drum names but the step sequencer is gone and its showing a timescale? (sigh)
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Cactus Music
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/23 20:50:13
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With any DAW new or old the first thing we do is go to the audio settings and make sure all is the way you want it. I only read this last page of the thread so sorry I might have missed details, but I'm supprised no body was listening when you said you didn't have sound. That's an easy one to fix and I'm glad you found the answer. The cool thing about Sonar is once you get one version set up, all your newer installations, (upgrades), copy all the old settings. There's lots to do after you first install it before you can start recording. I go down the preferance list in advanced mode, and open every tab and chack the settings. Something as dumb as sound on sound can screw you up if you don't want that setting... After hanging out here for a few years you catch on to the best settings and they start to actually make some kind of sense.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/23 21:07:32
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AnthonyMangos I'm making progress. I have sound!! Thanks Beepster, the SWA tutorials helped (watched parts 1 -3) - turns out I had everything installed and routed correctly - but for some reason the QuadCapture defaulted to MME32 and I changed it to ASIO. Without the tutorial I never would have figured that out. I have sound and can hear the addictive drums; that's the only thing I changed. My friend gave me a method to create a drum map. I now see drum names but the step sequencer is gone and its showing a timescale? (sigh)
Good stuff. Keep slamming through it. It gets easier. As for the missing step sequencer... it sounds like you are looking at the "Drum Pane" in the "Piano Roll View". That is a different input method than the "Step Sequencer". Click on the clip you want to mess with, go to the "Views" menu at the top left of the Sonar window (at the very top... the old Windows style menus) and select "Step Sequencer". If the clip is still actually a Step Sequencer clip then it should open up how you want. However it may now be a regular MIDI clip for whatever reason. Kind of hard to explain in text but look through those videos for the ones about "MIDI" and "Step Sequencer". Should clear a few things up. Cheers.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/24 00:26:54
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I'm going to give it a go tomorrow night, as long as it takes. Programming the drum beat looks easy once I get the drums named. I've also read through the Soft-Synth and Step Sequencer sections in Sonar X3 Power. I'm still not clear on how you go from the step sequencer to an audio track(s). Right now I'd just like to get the addictive drums on one track. I can pend a few weeks learning how to separate the kit pieces to simulate the studio mic'ing of a drum set. BTW, 'Cakewalk Help' politely responded to both of my help requests with genuine interest. Once I get the drumbeat, the bass should be like before. I record direct, so it should be a matter of arming the track and setting the punch in/out points. Please tell me that's it.
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Re: Don't Like Sonar Professional
2015/11/24 06:33:36
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I am glad you got sound (very important)! I noticed "naming" drum maps, and there are already resources to help you here... A couple things specific to AD2. First, there is a nice blog write up by Joey Adams with drum maps and templates for SONAR X3. Just follow his steps and replace "X3" with what he does with "Professional" when navigating, etc., as those templates also work with the new SONAR. After you insert AD2 into a project (or open his project template), if you change the Output of the MIDI track to "New Drum Map->AD2 Standard" the Step Sequencer notes should then have names. When you get a setup you like, saving as a track template is beneficial to quickly insert AD2 as you choose to see it in a new project (a track template is included above, but you can also modify and save it). Starting out it would be simpler to use the contents from the above blog post, but keep this in mind for the future.
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