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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/13 23:52:51
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OK, John, gotcha. Yeh, instrument definitions were a big deal to me when I used outboard ROMplers a lot. But my Yamaha got stolen, so now I just have a Kurzweil (it was bolted into the rack so that's why it wasn't stolen) and a KORG Kronos. Instrument defs don't help much with the Kronos, since I move patches around often and there are literally thousands of them. It'd be like trying to make an instrument definition file for Omnisphere.
Of course Cubase only likes ASIO. It's their own creation. But pretty much every DAW seems to prefer ASIO nowadays. Even Cantabile, which isn't even a DAW, defaults to it. So does Samplitude.
A local SONAR user and forum member has recently switched to Cubase. I've told him I expect a demonstration once he gets comfortable with it. He might be able to change my mind, but at the moment Samplitude seems to be the top contender as a second marriage.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 01:04:08
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Q: Does the Samplitude license allow installation on two computers?
The EULA says it's based on the serial number and my serial numbers specify 2 (I think). I've installed it on my DAW, but not my laptop so I can't verify that.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 01:51:36
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Q: Does the Samplitude license allow installation on two computers?
3 The included Sony products allow 2. The Independence libraries can only be used in Samplitude.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 01:57:06
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I didn't know MAGIX has/had a sketchy reputation. I think their bread and butter is on the consumer side, and yes, there are restrictions/fees for using their consumer products and content commercially.
My nickel review is: Interface isn't very modern looking by comparison, instruments are average/effects are good with lots of both. plug-in management and organization is lacking, but compatibility is excellent.
I'm happy to try to answer any specific questions, but I am new to Pro X3 Suite/SpectraLayers (not new to Samplitude).
Only from their Music Maker series. They got bad review from CM. The free version people had difficulty with authorizing. It's night and day from Samplitude. I would have never known that when I got Samplitude Studio 6 at one time.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 02:01:46
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I think another thing that contributes to MAGIX reputation is how they acquire other software companies, then recycle the software without developing it. It's not completely true, as evidenced by Sound Forge Audio Studio 12, but that is a complaint I've seen from Yellowtools and Sony Creative software users.
It seems with Soundforge they changed the paint. Supposedly that brought some of the Sony development team with them. As for Yellow Tools, I wonder if that 38 page thread on KVR still exists about how bad they were. To me they are the shining example of developers spending more time on locking down their product instead of improving it.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 04:57:16
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I'm fairly sure Samplitude supports instrument definitions. I haven't tried that out but it has substantial support for external controllers, external instruments, and external effects.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 15:27:30
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Well, I decided I didn't really need that new string library I've been lusting after, so I put those saved pennies toward Samplitude instead. Downloading now...this will take awhile, I think, at 221 KB/s. Hopefully, I'll get it installed in time for the weekend.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 15:41:27
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bitflipper
Well, I decided I didn't really need that new string library I've been lusting after, so I put those saved pennies toward Samplitude instead. Downloading now...this will take awhile, I think, at 221 KB/s. Hopefully, I'll get it installed in time for the weekend.
Very nice Bit!! I'm almost there as well and planning on getting it this weekend. Your posts/reviews/questions/advice weighed heavily on my decision..... 
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 17:26:59
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Another Samplitude MIDI question, since I picked up the deal (mainly for Sound Forge), and am looking at Cubase as the "other" option.
I compose mainly in MIDI using external sound modules, with the occasional VST.
One feature I must have in any DAW I switch to is the equivalent of SPLAT's MIDI Event list and "Event Filters." I use this extensively to "search and replace" notes for things like MIDI rhythm tracks from from my Yamaha MOXF6. Or to fix tiny timing errors (easier to do than using the PRV as far as I'm concerned).
As far as I can tell, Studio One doesn't have such functionality (looks like you can view MIDI events, but not search and replace them). Cubase does have an Event list and a very sophisticated Event Filter like feature.
Does anyone know is Samplitude has such a feature? I'd like to know before I go through the hassle of installing it. Also, does it have great MIDI editing and effects capabilities (like the great quantize features CW has?)
If it can do 95% of what Sonar does MIDI-wise, I'm ready to give a seriously look as my "other" DAW.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 17:32:31
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That's a way of saying that I found Samplitude much easier to use for my work than SONAR. Frankly, I think most people would.
Nitpicking, but this is statement that one can't simply make. Simply too many ways of doing things and if even most people would find the same things good then we would not have such a variety of DAWs to choose from. :)
Carry on then, don't mind me griping.
It's an opinion, not a "statement that one can't simply make." It may be true, or it may be false, but I have every right to state my opinion. I'll state it again: If there was a contest between Samplitude and SONAR, I think most people would agree that Samplitude is easier for their work. There are quite a number of reasons why I say this, but I have better things to do than explain how I come to this conclusion.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 17:33:46
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Samplitude does have an event list, and it's even better-implemented than SONAR's. I haven't used it yet, but I've watched a video on it and it looks like you can do everything there that you could do in SONAR's event view. I'm still waiting on my download, so all I know is what I've seen in Kraznet's (excellent) tutorials. But I've watched all the MIDI tutorials and haven't noticed anything Samplitude's MIDI editor can't do. The PRV looks a lot like SONAR's.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 18:03:09
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Native support for the Frontier Tranzport and AlphaTrack.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 20:02:16
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That's a way of saying that I found Samplitude much easier to use for my work than SONAR. Frankly, I think most people would.
Nitpicking, but this is statement that one can't simply make. Simply too many ways of doing things and if even most people would find the same things good then we would not have such a variety of DAWs to choose from. :)
Carry on then, don't mind me griping.
It's an opinion, not a "statement that one can't simply make." It may be true, or it may be false, but I have every right to state my opinion. I'll state it again: If there was a contest between Samplitude and SONAR, I think most people would agree that Samplitude is easier for their work. There are quite a number of reasons why I say this, but I have better things to do than explain how I come to this conclusion.
I'm sorry but I will have to disagree and I stand by my opinion that one cannot make such statements. But opinion are just that, personal taste things. They are not based on anything else. You prefer Samplitude, that is your taste. Substantiate your claim if you make such statements as facts.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 21:00:44
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SpectraLayers will not register phone support actually hangs up on you after 30 seconds of being on hold. edit... after resetting my password 2 times it finally allowed me to register. Hanging up on telephone support is odd though.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 22:06:16
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Native support for the Frontier Tranzport and AlphaTrack.
When I experimented with Samplitude, the functionality of my Alphatrack was only partial. Transport controls, volume, pan, mute, solo, arm, track increment/decrement, loop and punch all seemed to work. They had even programmed the flip button to toggle the mixer view on/off, which I thought was kind of cool. But pressing the send, eq and plug-in buttons and then trying to control those things gave unpredictable results at best, and often times seemed to confuse the communication between Samplitude and the Alphatrack, especially as far as the Alphatrack display was concerned. It was simply not useable for those modes. That was my experience, YMMV. I didn't test my Tranzport in Samplitude, but I'm assuming it would work fine, since the things it controls are more straightforward.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/14 22:52:08
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/12/14 22:54:36
Dave I truly hope you will be happy with Samplitude. It is a very deep and powerful DAW. It may in fact be more like Sonar than other DAWs.
It does have a lot going for it.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 00:18:17
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At the rate the download's going, it'll be Saturday before I can get into it. I downloaded an entire 9 GB 8Dio string library while I was waiting for Magix to send me just the 192 MB Cinematic Soundscapes. Fortunately, I'm not getting Independence at this time, just the little ones.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 00:53:41
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I wanted to drop in and thank everyone for their comments and advice on this and other related threads. I had heard of Samplitude Pro X3 but knew nothing about it. After watching/reading this thread, viewing several of the great kraznet videos, and playing with the demo I intend to grab this great pricing.
I believe I read that Majix is hiring developers, so I'm guessing that a new version update may be coming relatively soon. One of their reps may have said when a new version was coming, but I missed it. Current Suite Upgrade looks to be $299.00US. Does anyone have recollection of past upgrade offers?
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 02:28:42
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bitflipper
Well, I decid ed I didn't really need that new string library I've been lusting after, so I put those saved pennies toward Samplitude instead. Downloading now...this will take awhile, I think, at 221 KB/s. Hopefully, I'll get it installed in time for the weekend.
How cool to have bitflipper on board.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 02:50:51
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I've been considering it as well.
does samplitude have an equivalent to Audio Snap?
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 02:51:04
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Bit is going to have it all figured out by Sunday evening and be able to answer all our questions. <humor and happiness to all>
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
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☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2017/12/15 15:02:40
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I've been considering it as well.
does samplitude have an equivalent to Audio Snap?
Yes. It has very good audio snap. You can quantize recorded acoustic drums, etc. From the manual: "Quantization Audio Quantization Wizard The quantization wizard also lets you apply the functions described above for transients and beat marker editing. These commands reflect the typical work process when adjusting a multitrack drum recording to the VIP grid and are applied to object selection. The "One click button" automatically executes the "Determine transients", "Consolidate transients", "Cut at transients", "Quantize object positions (AQ)", and "Remove gaps between objects" commands sequentially. During determination of transients, you can set the sensitivity of the detection with the "Sensitivity" controller. The higher the value, the more beat markers are created. Use the "Analyze again" and "Clear" buttons to recalculate or delete an already created audio material analysis. If you would like to connect the slices you have created to crossfades, then enter the length of the fade into the respective field "Overlap (crossfade) length". Individual gaps between objects may be closed either by Object Time Stretching or by using the audio material from the slices to the right beside the gap. Define transients Audio quantizing objects is particularly well suited for modifying multi track drum recordings. 664 www.magix-audio.com "F3" and "F2" allow you to jump to the next or previous transients in the audio signal. By quantizing the VIP object position and dividing objects at beat markers/transient positions you have the option to perform highly flexible dynamic drum quantizations. All following commands refer to selected objects and can also be accessed using the Audio quantization wizard. "Specify transients" marks the peaks of the selected objects as "AQ" with special beat markers. A beat marker is an audio object marker, which is written into the audio file. To make these markers visible, turn on "Objects -> Transients (AQ)" ("Shift + Tab"). All other audio markers may be displayed via "Objects -> Audio markers". Detailed information about audio markers can be found under "Menu > Play/Rec > Markers > Audio markers". Consolidate Transients Transients within a certain range (e.g. 20 ms) are moved to the first transient position with this command. The effect is that "Split at transients" doesn't create too many splices, especially if you have several tracks with slightly different transient positions for the same drum hit, i.e. due to microphone distance related signal latency. The time window may be specified with the audio quantization wizard. Create Groove "Create groove" button in the audio quantization wizard creates a groove template based on the AQ markers (transients) according to the selected audio objects in the selected range."
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 03:19:15
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OK, I finally got it installed (aborted the instruments download) and had a couple hours to play. So far it's going well. As others have commented, it is very snappy, especially when restoring a saved project with Kontakt instruments. (Must save an image, because I don't even see the nki's loading - they're just instantly there.)
I'm embarrassed to admit that it took me an hour to figure out how to float the MIDI editor and Transport windows! Sheesh, that's a bizarre scheme. But of course it makes sense - once you crack the code.
My own presumptions were making me run in circles, assuming there had to be a button or a context menu. Like SONAR does. Sometimes, you just have to set aside everything you know. Not just the SONAR way of doing things but also Windows and general UI conventions.
Maybe I've just gotta think like a German!
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 03:26:32
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When you get a layout that you like, make sure to save it as a workspace.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 03:34:02
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 03:43:00
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Took me a while to get used to the plug-in layout. It finally dawned on me it is similar to the old Default - All Plug-ins layout. VST3 sorted by Category and VST2 sorted by directory layout. The spin on it are the fixed MAGiX plug-in layouts at the top of the menu. They have third party VST3 categories embedded in them. At least they are all correct as of the most recent update.
I have been playing around with writing a program to manage the layout. What can be done is a little limited because of the way the VSTPlugins.ini is read by the program. Not sure if my program will get finished. Really hoping MAGIX adds a process to create custom layouts.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 03:50:46
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It sure is a lot of fun learning a new daw!
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 04:04:37
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When bit starts a thread he brings out people that have a deep thought process .
I'm enjoying reading this thread ....
that's all I want to say for now ...I don't want to embarrass myself ,
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 04:27:50
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Is the automation still imposed on the track or is it now able to be in lanes?
I didn't see it at Samplitude's web page nor on youtube videos if that has been added.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/15 05:55:45
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I've used Independence for a number of years - basically as a Rompler with minor editing, and I think a good 90% of the samples and patches are usable for finished production work. ( not sure how to describe it but -there is very little hype in their selection ).The biggest problem with Yellow Tools was their kluge installation schemes. The Library itself is top notch and has very deep editing. One of the best and most unique features in Independence is that it will host VST'I - you can do true synth stacks right inside Independence. From what I can tell - it will not host multy-timbral - multy-output synths - only single stereo or mono output synths. Samplitude has very good sounding effects and mastering tools. They don't look as nice graphically as UAD or whatever else looks the pertiest these days - but they are solid and well designed. The 149.00 deal is a true no-brainer ( it is a 1200.00 + deal ). I was going to upgrade from Pro X2 and get the rest - but I don't want to download and there seems there's no more offering for the boxed version. I like Sonar far better for the type of work I do, but Samplitude does have a great sound quality to it.
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