soens

bitflipper
Maybe I've just gotta think like a German!
 
Or maybe not. I lived in Germany for over two years and never got any of their jokes.

At least you knew they were joking, right?!

(Or were they?!)

:-)

 Teutones? Never ever 

35mm
I'm hoping that between us all we can move some of the wonderful Cake community friendliness over to the Sampliquoia forums. They are friendly but a little quiet compared to here. Perhaps us lot can give it the nudge it needs :)
 
The forums are the ones here, and not the ones on the main Magix consumer site.

Seeing that quite a few Cakewalker's are jumping on aboard, I'm sure we'll take this vibrant/active/great community and just "liven up" that place.  

soens
At least you knew they were joking, right?!

Most of the time, I think. 
 
I did discern one thing: the idea Germans don't get puns is a myth. One old guy made a pun on my surname (Townsend), something like "Wenn du ein tausend bist, ich bin eine Million!" OK, so maybe not a great pun. But I was encouraged. He also gave me pearls of poetic folk wisdom: "Hast du Hashish in der tasche, hast du immer etwas zu nasche."
 
(Pardon my rusty grammar; it's been awhile.)

35mm
The forums are the ones here, and not the ones on the main Magix consumer site.

Thanks for that. I was disappointed to find that I was initially barred from the Magix forum because I was not a registered user. That requirement has been suggested here, to keep out the riffraff, but I never supported the idea. It's such a great way for prospective users to kick the tires.
 
Studio One made my short list largely on the strength of its great forum (not coincidentally, I suspect, populated by many SONAR ex-pats). Reaper also has a lively forum, even if its SNR is a bit lower than I'd prefer.
 
Quality is pretty good at the Samplitude forum but it's a quiet neighborhood compared to this place. Heck, even kraznet himself, Mr. Samplitude, has only 5,000 posts. (Hah! says bapu.) Good to see a celebrity such as Bob Ohlsson there. Talk about a brain worth picking.

mikedocy

Beagle
I've been considering it as well.
does samplitude have an equivalent to Audio Snap?

Yes. It has very good audio snap. You can quantize recorded acoustic drums, etc.
From the manual:
 
"Quantization Audio Quantization Wizard  The quantization wizard also lets you apply the functions described above for transients and beat marker editing. These commands reflect the typical work process when adjusting a multitrack drum recording to the VIP grid and are applied to object selection. The "One click button" automatically executes the "Determine transients", "Consolidate transients", "Cut at transients", "Quantize object positions (AQ)", and "Remove gaps between objects" commands sequentially. During determination of transients, you can set the sensitivity of the detection with the "Sensitivity" controller. The higher the value, the more beat markers are created. Use the "Analyze again" and "Clear" buttons to recalculate or delete an already created audio material analysis.   If you would like to connect the slices you have created to crossfades, then enter the length of the fade into the respective field "Overlap (crossfade) length". Individual gaps between objects may be closed either by Object Time Stretching or by using the audio material from the slices to the right beside the gap.  Define transients Audio quantizing objects is particularly well suited for modifying multi track drum recordings.
  664    www.magix-audio.com "F3" and "F2" allow you to jump to the next or previous transients in the audio signal. By quantizing the VIP object position and dividing objects at beat markers/transient positions you have the option to perform highly flexible dynamic drum quantizations. All following commands refer to selected objects and can also be accessed using the Audio quantization wizard. "Specify transients" marks the peaks of the selected objects as "AQ" with special beat markers. A beat marker is an audio object marker, which is written into the audio file. To make these markers visible, turn on "Objects -> Transients (AQ)" ("Shift + Tab"). All other audio markers may be displayed via "Objects -> Audio markers".  Detailed information about audio markers can be found under "Menu > Play/Rec > Markers > Audio markers". Consolidate Transients Transients within a certain range (e.g. 20 ms) are moved to the first transient position with this command. The effect is that "Split at transients" doesn't create too many splices, especially if you have several tracks with slightly different transient positions for the same drum hit, i.e. due to microphone distance related signal latency. The time window may be specified with the audio quantization wizard. Create Groove "Create groove" button in the audio quantization wizard creates a groove template based on the AQ markers (transients) according to the selected audio objects in the selected range."

Thanks!

Snehankur
Reading all your posts/advice I have just availed the $149 offer.
I have downloaded the 4 MB Installer.
But my location where the DAW is doesn't have good internet connection.
How can I download all the contents of Samplitude at my work and bring them to my home?
 
Regards
Snehankur

Contact Samplitude support and see if they will ship you the disks

scook
Contact Samplitude support and see if they will ship you the disks

Thank you Steve.
I stay in a remote location for my work. Also getting a courier will draw some customs formalities may be duties as well.
Regards
Snehankur

Can anyone tell me anything about the Independence Sampler that comes with the package? 
 
I've got -6 DVDs labelled "Independence content" which I presume are all the extra sound libraries for Independence? But before I spend the 2+ hours and 70 gig space) on it, can anytime tell me whether these are worth it or not? I've already for Dimension Pro (which is becoming very long in the tooth), Arturia V, and several; other guitar and keyboard packages, plus several drum programs and several hardware ROMPLERs that are better than 95% of all the plug ins. Is installing this thing really going to blow my mind?

I’ve been in email contact with Magix asking if they could send out the disc copies of the package if I paid for the shipping. From what I understand they only offer the download option in the USA and don’t have a way to include everything included in this deal in hard copy form for this neck of the woods. I decided I don’t need Independence- the rest of the deal is awesome as it is so I just purchased it. My internet options don’t work too well with these large files.

Just a thought, but wasn't the PC (including Mac) invented in the US? Then why is Sonar only one of very few DAWs made in the US. Most of the big contenders are from overseas. Not sure about the startups. Why is that? Seems the "good" stuff is always from "over there", including mobile apps.

Yeh, you're right: you'd be wrong about that. Digital recording predates electronic music. Although that is likely the focus of most home DAW users today.
 
I'd also question the assertion that electronic music has never been as popular here as it is in Europe. If you're talking about the last decade, and specifically EDM, then yes. It's also extremely popular in Asia. But synthesizer-based music started in America with Switched On Bach and Snowflakes are Dancing (yes, the latter is a Japanese artist but no one in his home country knew what to do with him so he turned to Carlos' American distributor). And of course, the synthesizer itself was born in America.

soens
Just a thought, but wasn't the PC (including Mac) invented in the US? Then why is Sonar only one of very few DAWs made in the US. Most of the big contenders are from overseas. Not sure about the startups. Why is that? Seems the "good" stuff is always from "over there", including mobile apps.

At the risk of getting political, innovation in the US has been hurt by the domination of large corporations over, well, everything. Finland, Sweden, Germany, The Netherlands - they still encourage entrepreneurship. Startups and small businesses have a hard time getting a foothold here, because they pay taxes like an individual. No Panamanian tax shelters for them, no sweetheart tax breaks, no tax credit handouts, no subsidies. And then there's the incessant burden of health care costs. All because small businesses have no political leverage.
 
Fortunately, businesses with very low barriers to entry can still succeed. Facebook, Amazon, Google. All started with nothing more than a computer and a couple smart fellows. OK, Amazon had some serious bucks from day 1, but initially they had no physical presence except an office. They didn't have to turn a profit for years and years.
 
And while those companies do employ a lot of programmers, they constitute a very small percentage of the workforce. Contrast that with a software-only company that depends mostly on high-priced and hard-to-find coders, and that won't see a dime of revenue for 2-3 years after forming.

Turn monitoring on. It's the speaker icon in the track header. There are also some relevant global settings. Press Y for the options dialog and look under the first item, Audio Setup. Make sure the Monitoring/Engine Mode slider is all the way to the right, and that Monitoring Behavior is set to "Tape Monitoring".

Terrible news about the demise of Sonar. I feel sorry for those of you that have supported it all these years.
 
I don't do nearly as much recording as I used to but, AFA Sam goes, I've been using it for several years so here are a few thoughts. 
 
I bought the inexpensive Magix Music Studio (sortof a Samplitude lite) years ago to use as a replacement for Cooledit (which Adobe wanted an arm and a leg to upgrade to Audition). I liked it so much that I bought Sam9. I personally don't think I have any use for SoundForge because Sam handles my audio needs well enough. I don't understand why Magix bought it.
 
Things I like about Sam vs Sonar:
 
* comparisonics wav display. Displays the wavform in color, with higher frequencies brighter colors. Makes it easier to zoom in on a particular part for editing. Here's a Kraznet video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go7a09fsI7c
 
* Opening/importing a wav file is much faster than Sonar. After a file is opened, auxiliary meta files are written to the same folder that make reopening/displaying the file again practically instantaneous. Even if Sam had never opened the wav file before, it's still very fast compared to Sonar.
 
* You can do several non-destructive edits on wav files. Then, you can just freeze/unfreeze the track or object. If I remember correctly, in Sonar pretty much everything to do with wav files was destructive.
 
* Many great sounding high quality plugins are included.
 
* It seems like things sound better in Sam. I know it's probably just psychological, but so what? It seems to sound clearer so I think that's a plus.
 
 
Things I don't like as much as Sonar:
 
* Comping feels more intuitive in Sonar. (My favorite comping was Project 5's)
 
* Liquid Mix never worked right in Sam but worked perfectly in Sonar. It stuttered horribly in Sam. That's irrelevant now that firewire is gone.
 
* The midi implementation is not as versatile as it is in Sonar. But it's pretty darn good though. I put in a feature request to use a scripting language like Python to manipulate midi files but nothing's come of it yet. CAL is bizarre but at least it's something..
 
* Sam's documentation is pretty poor. Lots of german-to-english translation mistakes, and some things are not described in depth. The forum and Kraznet's videos are invaluable.
 

bitflipper
Turn monitoring on. It's the speaker icon in the track header. There are also some relevant global settings. Press Y for the options dialog and look under the first item, Audio Setup. Make sure the Monitoring/Engine Mode slider is all the way to the right, and that Monitoring Behavior is set to "Tape Monitoring".

Ah!  thanks Dave!