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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 06:53:00
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Interesting, the compressor and the gate do not work. I wonder if it has anything to do with the side chain implementation?
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 07:22:18
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Just tonight I was experimenting with the Sonitus plugins in Samplitude. The plugins that work for me are Phase, Reverb, Modulator, SurroundComp, and Wahwah. Too bad about Compressor.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 07:25:53
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☄ Helpfulby ZincTrumpet 2017/12/18 15:26:50
Sonitus Surround (my favorite Sonitnus plug-in) works too
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 15:07:41
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I have been trying out Samplitude. Probably a simple question: on the opening page of Samplitude I can go into 'Audio Setup' and choose from a couple of different ASIO drivers for my VS-100. One of them is 'Magix Low Latency 2016.' When I do select this, I see a slightly lower reported latency, as opposed to selection of the regular VS-100 driver. Is this the one I should try?
Simple answer is try it and see how it performs. I can always switch back. Anyone have any experience using the Magix low latency ASIO drivers?
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 15:17:32
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Brilliant thread!
A couple of things @Bitflipper:
1. Can you confirm that Samplitude can create a tempo map from freely recorded audio or midi? In the sales blurb for version 3 it suggests it can but I'm wondering how it works in practice.
You should be able to use Melodyne to create a tempo map.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 16:11:04
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Simple answer is try it and see how it performs. I can always switch back. Anyone have any experience using the Magix low latency ASIO drivers?
I haven't done any objective test to compare the Magix driver to my regular Focusrite ASIO driver - too many variables - but "Magix Low-Latency" works fine. In Samplitude, anyway. When I switch back to SONAR, I have to change back to my Saffire driver in order to get any sound at all. So I just use that one for both DAWs.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 18:00:21
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Bit Flipper - I have had a license for Samplitude for a number of years ( Version 9 ) I think. I'm a Sonar guy and only did a few experiment type projects in Samplitude - but never really translated the efficiency of Sonars' use especially with midi projects. Yesterday I pulled up a very old project in Samplitude that required a ridiculous amount of track editing. - just splitting and micro moving chucks of track data for instrument alignment. I was blown away at how efficient and accurate micro editing is in Samplitude. The basics of getting around the track view is still a little kluge for me - there's just re-learning how to control the time line and zoom levels quickly as I'm used to in Sonar. Basically Samplitude does an amazing job for quickly editing wave forms. I set-up "keybindings" for [Shift- T - to select the active track and then Shift-G to glue the track. This ends up being just as quick as doing a bounce to clips in Sonar.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 18:50:41
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I've activated all of my products, and they are working fine, but when I log into my account at Magix, it is only showing Sound Forge as a registered product. Anybody know what I'm not doing? Thanks!
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 19:04:02
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Not logging into your Pro Audio account. It is different from your MAGIX consumer account showing SoundForge. Here is the US page with links to both accounts. The main support page is shown in the Samplitude About screen.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 19:09:26
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Thanks! I just figured that out. Isn't Sound Forge, Pro? Really strange they would have that in a different login.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 19:23:08
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2017/12/17 22:24:20
bitflipper
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Simple answer is try it and see how it performs. I can always switch back. Anyone have any experience using the Magix low latency ASIO drivers?
I haven't done any objective test to compare the Magix driver to my regular Focusrite ASIO driver - too many variables - but "Magix Low-Latency" works fine. In Samplitude, anyway. When I switch back to SONAR, I have to change back to my Saffire driver in order to get any sound at all. So I just use that one for both DAWs.
when you open the "Advanced" properties of that Magix ASIO driver it looks pretty much exactly like the ASIO4ALL GUI. I'm betting that's exactly what it is.   so I'm pretty sure that the Magix Low latency ASIO driver is a WDM wrapper since ASIO4ALL is a WDM wrapper and I'm pretty sure that the Magix ASIO driver is actually just ASIO4ALL.
post edited by Beagle - 2017/12/17 20:12:16
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 20:12:05
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You might want to do a "loop back" test if considering their "low latency" driver.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 20:54:30
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Thanks all! very interesting concerning the possibility of a WDM wrapper. I did notice that the Magix ASIO did not seem compatible when re-opening Sonar. DeeringAmps
You might want to do a "loop back" test if considering their "low latency" driver.
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How would I do a 'loop back' test in Samplitude? thanks
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 23:15:16
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Thanks all! very interesting concerning the possibility of a WDM wrapper. I did notice that the Magix ASIO did not seem compatible when re-opening Sonar.
DeeringAmps
You might want to do a "loop back" test if considering their "low latency" driver.
T
How would I do a 'loop back' test in Samplitude?
thanks
This would be the easiest way, IMO. http://centrance.com/downloads/ltu/measurement_instructions.shtml download the centrance software, then follow those instructions.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/17 23:19:24
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How would I do a 'loop back' test in Samplitude?The same as any DAW. Send a signal out on 1 and bring it back on 2. The two signals should "line up" perfectly. When using ASIO drivers the host should do this automatically. With WDM drivers you have to set the "compensation" manually. This is the "25 words or less" explanation. There was a very lengthy thread here years ago. Be forewarned, it'll take a day or two get thru; IIRC. T
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 03:11:46
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Simple answer is try it and see how it performs. I can always switch back. Anyone have any experience using the Magix low latency ASIO drivers?
I haven't done any objective test to compare the Magix driver to my regular Focusrite ASIO driver - too many variables - but "Magix Low-Latency" works fine. In Samplitude, anyway. When I switch back to SONAR, I have to change back to my Saffire driver in order to get any sound at all. So I just use that one for both DAWs.
Haven't done much in Samplitude, but yesterday I had to switch from the Magix Low-Latency driver to the Focusrite ASIO driver because monitoring electric guitar through a sim the latency was not low. It was high. MIDI monitoring was working well, though.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 05:33:26
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Simple answer is try it and see how it performs. I can always switch back. Anyone have any experience using the Magix low latency ASIO drivers?
I haven't done any objective test to compare the Magix driver to my regular Focusrite ASIO driver - too many variables - but "Magix Low-Latency" works fine. In Samplitude, anyway. When I switch back to SONAR, I have to change back to my Saffire driver in order to get any sound at all. So I just use that one for both DAWs.
when you open the "Advanced" properties of that Magix ASIO driver it looks pretty much exactly like the ASIO4ALL GUI. I'm betting that's exactly what it is.
so I'm pretty sure that the Magix Low latency ASIO driver is a WDM wrapper since ASIO4ALL is a WDM wrapper and I'm pretty sure that the Magix ASIO driver is actually just ASIO4ALL.
Yep just rebranded ASIO4ALL drivers.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 09:49:37
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So after getting Sonitus to work outside Sonar, it seems the reverb is quite similar to eFX_Reverb. It only has 4 presets but with a few knob twists I can't really tell much of a difference. AND.... for some reason Sonitus Compressor DOES work for me. Not sure why not for so many others. BTW, is there a way to manage a window full of plugins? Can't seem to dock them or even minimize them. Screen is getting crowded.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 12:40:15
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Trying to get Cakewalk released plugins to work today. At 1st Samp saw all of them. After authorizing TH3, Samp no longer even sees it. BREVERB has similar issues but I can't even get it to take the new s/n's.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 14:37:44
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Beagle
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Thanks all! very interesting concerning the possibility of a WDM wrapper. I did notice that the Magix ASIO did not seem compatible when re-opening Sonar.
DeeringAmps
You might want to do a "loop back" test if considering their "low latency" driver.
T
How would I do a 'loop back' test in Samplitude?
thanks
This would be the easiest way, IMO.
http://centrance.com/downloads/ltu/measurement_instructions.shtml
download the centrance software, then follow those instructions.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 14:55:18
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/12/18 15:40:31
Do not use the Magix ASIO driver, or any other generic driver. Always use the one that came with your audio interface.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 16:05:35
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Ran the centrance.com file on a spare computer without issue. Follow up antivirus scans show no issues.
I ran the latency tests with the native VS-100 ASIO and then the Magix Low Latency ASIO. The results were within a couple of milliseconds of each, with the Magix ASIO maybe 2 ms less.
Along with everyone's input, I will just go back to the native VS-100 ASIO, and avoid any potential downside to using Magix's. Thanks everyone.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 16:18:56
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Is Samplitude 32 & 64 bit? I installed 64 bit but the installer gave me no option.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 16:36:49
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Is Samplitude 32 & 64 bit? I installed 64 bit but the installer gave me no option.
both 32 and 64bit versions are available, but it only installs the version you need for the version of windows you're running. I don't know if there's a way to force it to install 32bit on a 64bit machine or not.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 16:59:15
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My office system remains 32 bit, but.
Even I have given up using the 32-bit versions on my StudioCat.
Just sayin'...
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/18 17:01:37
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/12/18 17:24:13
soens
AND.... for some reason Sonitus Compressor DOES work for me. Not sure why not for so many others. I can insert the Sonitus Compressor and the values display and adjust in the plugin window but the plugin has no effect on the track signal. :-/ soens
BTW, is there a way to manage a window full of plugins? Can't seem to dock them or even minimize them. Screen is getting crowded. As good as it is in many areas as a DAW, plugin management is not good in Samp. You can try playing with VstPlugins.ini but the results are limited. Kraznet has suggested organizing your plugins into folders, which will then be displayed on the VST menu. Another option is a small program written by a Samp user in Spain - you can read about it and download it here. I've tried it and it does help to organize plugins.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/19 13:45:56
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More questions about VST plugin finding:
Is there any way to "start the VST search from scratch?" I've reorganized a lot of plugs (for example, putting only the UA powered plug ins I use into a single folder), and deleted a lot of redundant folders. Yet, when I hit the "reset" button the scan again it loads all of the UA plugs into the folder. I'd like to simply limit the search to a few selected folders, but I can't figure out how to do it.
On similar lines, I seemed to have installed the Ozone mastering suite okay, but for the life of me I can't figure out where the are. They don't show up as choices in Samplitude even after re-VST-scanning.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/19 13:56:12
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see post #102 and #103 on page 4 of this thread.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/19 16:36:48
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On similar lines, I seemed to have installed the Ozone mastering suite okay, but for the life of me I can't figure out where the are. They don't show up as choices in Samplitude even after re-VST-scanning.
They are part of sound forge.
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Re: Tell me about Samplitude
2017/12/20 00:08:40
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BTW, is there a way to manage a window full of plugins? Can't seem to dock them or even minimize them. Screen is getting crowded.
As good as it is in many areas as a DAW, plugin management is not good in Samp. You can try playing with VstPlugins.ini but the results are limited. Kraznet has suggested organizing your plugins into folders, which will then be displayed on the VST menu. Another option is a small program written by a Samp user in Spain - you can read about it and download it here. I've tried it and it does help to organize plugins. Thanks, but I was referring to floating VST windows all over the screen with nowhere to go except moved to the 2nd screen where they're still in the way. They don't even have a minimize button. UGH!
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