bitflipper
Yeh, you're right: you'd be wrong about that. Digital recording predates electronic music. Although that is likely the focus of most home DAW users today.
 
I'd also question the assertion that electronic music has never been as popular here as it is in Europe. If you're talking about the last decade, and specifically EDM, then yes. It's also extremely popular in Asia. But synthesizer-based music started in America with Switched On Bach and Snowflakes are Dancing (yes, the latter is a Japanese artist but no one in his home country knew what to do with him so he turned to Carlos' American distributor). And of course, the synthesizer itself was born in America.

 
I would question and refute both of these assertions. The first electronic music was created and performed in the first half of the 20th century, using weird precursors of the synthesizer like the theremin. Even Walter/Wendy Carlos's "Switch on Albums" were recorded on analog tape. Digital recording really didn't come about until the late 70s.
 
And, even though the true real commercial synthesizers were invented in the U.S., purely electronic music itself never caught on here. We never had the equivalent of Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream. Synthesizers were used as keyboards in numerous bands, but there were always guitars and basses and drums there as well. Even disco songs weren't electronic in nature--most of the hits were lushly orchestrated. There was never a huge demand for electronic music in the U.S. outside of  dance clubs, college radio stations or new age health spas. At best it had niche poprularity.  Even in the synth-heavy 1980s, all of those bands were either British or from the Continent. 
 

Yes, it does ripple editing, I think by default but you can toggle it off and on.

Yup. We've taken it for granted that we can create a tempo map from any old audio file. Going back to SONAR 6, IIRC. Probably won't be the last thing you'll miss from SONAR. I hope it gets implemented (just wait till we SONAR users get confident enough to start asking for things over there! Look out.), but fortunately it's not a showstopper for me.
 
Well, actually, nothing's a showstopper yet because SONAR remains my primary DAW. Samplitude's just a sideline project. But so far it's ticked all the boxes except for this one thing, which I hadn't noticed until your post over there. Figures, a drummer would pick up on that one but not a keyboard player.

Paul P
Having appreciated bitflipper and scook's contributions for so long, I felt compelled to follow their lead and go the Samplitude route for a replacement daw.
 
I just found out that Samplitude is about the only daw not supported by Nektar for their 'deep integration' software for my Impact LX88+ midi controller.
 
Not sure what I miss out on, but I've sent Nektar a question about this.
 

I just acquired the LX61+. I'd be interested in how Nektar responds to your note. I haven't tried it yet, but I believe Samplitude can be integrated with pretty much any controller through a MIDI learn process.

Larry Jones

Paul P
Having appreciated bitflipper and scook's contributions for so long, I felt compelled to follow their lead and go the Samplitude route for a replacement daw.
 
I just found out that Samplitude is about the only daw not supported by Nektar for their 'deep integration' software for my Impact LX88+ midi controller.
 
Not sure what I miss out on, but I've sent Nektar a question about this.
 

I just acquired the LX61+. I'd be interested in how Nektar responds to your note. I haven't tried it yet, but I believe Samplitude can be integrated with pretty much any controller through a MIDI learn process.

The controller editor in Samp is amazing. I have an LX88+ but I haven't set it up yet. I have however setup my ProjectMix (Mackie protocol) which was designed for and has built-in integration for Sonar, Cubase, PT, Logic, and Live. Using Samp's controller editor I was able to set the ProjectMix up to integrate far better with Samp than with any of the DAWs it was designed for. The same should be possible with The Nektar LX range, and using the controller editor you will probably get far better integration than Nektar are likely to provide - I wasn't impressed with their integration for Sonar, FL Studio or Studio One.

Ruben

mikedocy
More Discoveries 2:
 
You can add multiple vst/dx paths from the vst menu.
The vst menu makes it look like you can only add one user vst path but this is not the case:

"(multiple VST plug-in folders may be used).
Simply enter one VST plug-in folder path, then using the folder icon on the right, have Samplitude
scan this chosen folder. Then enter in a 2nd VST plug-in folder and rescan using the
folder icon. Now the contents of both VST plug-in folders are available. Samplitude
will automatically find new plug-ins that have been installed if they are present in the
specified folders."

 
Yes, I've never liked the way they did this in Samp - it's unintuitive to change the path to a new folder and then expect Samp to remember the previous path. But I understand that improving VST management is already a feature request for Samp.
 
BTW, good tips. 

This is one of the stranger conventions in Samplitude, as it's unlike any piece of software of any type that I've ever seen. Dropdown lists have historically represented a single piece of data. When you choose an item from a listbox, it's a little shocking when you realize you've just added a second selection rather than replacing the first.
 
As long as they're consistent, which they seem to be, you can get used to such annoyances, er, innovations. 
 
Just as we did when Windows first made us go to a Start button to stop the computer. We initially laughed at the recycle bin, where nothing actually gets thrown away without additional effort. That seemed over the top even here in green, recycle-obsessed Seattle. I still hate the Windows makes you hunt for system settings, but I suppose I'll eventually get used to that, too.

Brilliant thread!
 
A couple of things @Bitflipper:
 
1. Can you confirm that Samplitude can create a tempo map from freely recorded audio or midi? In the sales blurb for version 3 it suggests it can but I'm wondering how it works in practice.
 
2. Does the reference above to DX plugs mean that Samplitude will find all the lovely Sonitus plugs that are installed with Sonar?
 
Many thanks,

If NoDirectXInit=0 is added Sam_X64.ini or Sam.ini (the 32bit init file), probably want to append the [DirectX_Hide] section of  DxPlugins.ini with the names of the plug-ins to hide such as the synths (no DXi support in Samplitude), Cronus (V-Vocal) amd anything else that does not look useful.

35mm

mikedocy
Be aware that you cannot drag and drop an audio file onto the timeline to set the project tempo from the audio file,
like we can do in Sonar and SOP.
Kraznet did say he would send a feature request to the devs for this.
It is a competitive feature so I'm sure it will get implemented before too long.

Actually, I think you can but not just by dragging it on the timeline. I am sure I have seen something in the manual about conforming a project's tempo to an audio file. I haven't tried it and not sure where in the huge manual I saw it!

You can detect a fixed tempo of a track but cannot automatically detect a tempo that speeds up and slows down, like Sonar+Melodyne can do.
One fixed tempo is all you get for now.
You can edit the tempo automation and make the song speed up and slow down, but that is not what the orginal post was about.
 
 

TobyC
Brilliant thread!
 
A couple of things @Bitflipper:
 
1. Can you confirm that Samplitude can create a tempo map from freely recorded audio or midi? In the sales blurb for version 3 it suggests it can but I'm wondering how it works in practice.
 
2. Does the reference above to DX plugs mean that Samplitude will find all the lovely Sonitus plugs that are installed with Sonar?
 
Many thanks,

1. From what I understand at this point, it seems Samplitude lacks this functionality, at least as we know it. Somebody suggested a workaround, but it was a crude solution. Here's Mike's thread over on the Samplitude forum. 
2. Yes, you can use some - but not all - of the Sonitus suite. Sadly, everybody's favorite, the compressor, is not among the ones that seem to work. The multi-band compressor does, though.