mike_mccue


"My workflow speed has 'expanded' (<---- ) expotentially. "


Yes.


I was really fast already... and so, from my perspective, X1 cripples workflow... too much extra clicking for my style of getting it done.


I have imagined that you'd feel similar to how I feel if I were to announce to everyone that my new Honda 125cc has inspired me to ride faster than ever.


I guess all we can do is draw upon our personal perspectives and attempt share our thoughts on the matter.


all the best,
mike




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John T


You actually think a company like Roland gives enough of a monkeys about the griping in the backwaters of the Internet to have paid forum stooges?

Mystic38


some people need balance in their lives.

x1 cost you $99 for the upgrade... perhaps if you had spent full retail you would have read the manual and learned and adapted to the NEW program that it is.. you want the shortcuts back? program them. dont want multidock? dont use it....but if you want a program to work like 8.5.3 here is the scoop...you already had it... its SOnar 8.5.3

For my 2c, Cakewalk were strategically in a dead end street with 8.5.3.. the ONLY people it was popular with was prior owners of Sonar, those used to hundreds of dos style shortcuts and incoherent and obscure but reliable ways of doing things..to new adopters Sonar was a pig to use.
Cakewalk have massively increased the user friendliness of Sonar with X1, and with an upcoming MAC version have the ingredients to make a major push in market share.

So learn X1, go back to 8.5.3 or learn yet another program and jump ship. Cakewalk is going the right way. get on the train, get off the train or get out of the way..it aint stoppin.

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
]

pianodano

Yep!! I do think they have damge control helpers around here.
Feds do. All large companies do. Why wouldn't Roland. Do you really think that people are so naive that they can't see through you ?

This is a USERS forum. Who gives a rats butt what Roland thinks anyhow. Obviously they do'nt care what decades of dedicated Cakewalk users think. I spent tens of thousands on their limited llifespan junk hardware when they were king of the hill in the 80's. So I's paid my dues.

BTW, your're a smart aleck and nobody likes a smart aleck. Personally, I won't be reading anymore of your hot air.
Later.

Dan,


John T is not a, "damage control helper". I can assure you of that. We do not employ anyone to come on here who is not a member of the Cakewalk staff, and all Cakewalk staffers come here using their real names and identify as Cakewalk staff.


Also, Roland has literally nothing to do with these forums. These are our forums, not Roland's. 


SP

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
]

Also, Roland has literally nothing to do with these forums. These are our forums, not Roland's. 

Mystic38


This is an excellent example of the pot calling the kettle black as there is an equal if not more so number of members whose sole contribution in the X1 forum (repeat X1 forum) is to rubbish and deride X1 cakewalk and its staff.. this quoted post included..
 
The not late breaking news is that Cakewalk's new DAW is X1..  and any crash and burn in cakewalk sales from your doom and gloom scenario would come primarily as a result of taking away the huge UI improvements introduced in X1...  and note your dollars are already NOT included in said stated sales success.
 
Given that X1 is a new product, you have exercised your personal right not to buy it, however luckily your 8.5.3 will continue to work perfectly for you, and, with a dedicated computer you will have a good ten years without having to learn or adapt to anything...
 
If you wish for ongoing support for 8.5.3 then there is a forum room where you can lobby for that... this room is for the X1 version of Sonar..
 
thank you.

pianodano

As a user myself that has spent years learning the complexities and ins and outs of Sonar prior to X1, I also think that it had a certain elegance and that it allowed power users to quickly and intituitvely do nearly anything with little effort.
 
There was a reason for that. It was because that it was developed and worked out over and with years of user feedback. That is important to understand. So now they serve up this complete redesign that was developed over a few months in some room by a few programmers that THINK they know what a DAW is supposed to look like.
 
They have made a grave mistake. The biggest car makers on earth had their clocks cleaned using the same thinking, ie; they knew what a car was supposed to look and perfom like. So people took their money elsewhere.
 
 I also think that what they have done has nothing to do with making a more sophisticated DAW. But rather instead, simply a dumbed down version of our great software that, as aleady stated, through the years dedicated users had provided untold thousands of hours of experience and feedback in efforts to get it where it was prior to X1.
 
So now from all reports, Cakewalk proudly states that X1 shows the biggest sales ever. As a businessman myself, I strongly believe that is spoken of as product turnover. Not gross sales.
 
In my mind, why anyone would even entertain the idea of converting somthing fabulous that was clearly worth much more than $500.00 retail, and turn it into something that offers gizmos  that most high end users would have zero use for, for a few bucks to generate revenue, is beyond belief.
The idea of selling more for less is completely foreign to me. The idea of business is to sell less for more.
  
But what really takes the Cake is to allow a few obnoxious forum members using some self perceived authority and grandiose sense of importance, free reign to repeatedly insult some of the very same longtime users that may have hung in there all those years though all the iterations of bugs and half baked starts to willfully show a callous disregard for serious customers.
 
What all this really tells me is that, they may have lost their way and that they don't even care if the established power user base to goes away; and that they (Cakewalk) have staked their future on the nickel and dime crowd. Well my experience tells me that is a fickle bunch of tightwads and in many cases, have to get the money from Mom or Dad.
 
But they can count on this. I'll only go away with a fight. I will be damned if I am going to willingly throw away nearly 10 years of Sonar experience without letting them know how I  (and I'd bet thousands of others likewise) feel about it.