Supercomposer

.... yet others, mostly the known fanbois here who obviously do nothing than opening the program and look at it, but mostly work on their post count here at the forum. 

 
Harsh, but fair
 
 
I'm admiring your style a lot SC
 
 
 

Disturbed1


OK,

Thanks for all the help. I can't believe how many people are posting.

I'd like to fix X1 if I could, as I have $99 tied up in it. So I'm open to suggestions. Thing is, it's currently uninstalled on my workstation as I put Pro tools in it's place. I'll re-install it today, and give it another shot. Thamks again.

Chrisharbin: I'll change the name of the thread asap.

D

This really is a very helpful forum, with a LOT of talent.  
 
Hard to see that thru all the BS these days - from fanbois & trolls alike.   

shawnbulen

Disturbed1


OK,

Thanks for all the help. I can't believe how many people are posting.

I'd like to fix X1 if I could, as I have $99 tied up in it. So I'm open to suggestions. Thing is, it's currently uninstalled on my workstation as I put Pro tools in it's place. I'll re-install it today, and give it another shot. Thamks again.

Chrisharbin: I'll change the name of the thread asap.

D

This really is a very helpful forum, with a LOT of talent.  
 
Hard to see that thru all the BS these days - from fanbois & trolls alike.   

Yeah, sometimes it seems like a war of all against all here...


Hopefully someone will have something of a solution to this fellows problems...

You have SPE 8.5.3 running "Rock Solid". I have to assume that in a year you have tracks you've been working on so you have work committed to Sonar You "Buy" an upgrade and have trouble for a couple weeks. Cake Comes out with new versions annually so nobody in this community is waiting for updates as long as users of any other daw! Now rather than go back and continue to work in the "rock solid" 8.5.3 you spend another $600 to buy a program you don't even know how to use? Either you have time and money to burn or the bugs in x1 aren't your real reason or you never had 8.5.3 to begin.

Dude...a lot of us have never really had to post until X1! The majority of cake users have used  Cakewalk and Sonar for a very very long time and were "COMFORTABLE" with it because each upgrade was "CONSISTENT" with each version. X1 is not exactly consistent with the tools we have grown to know and love, and by the nature of the moans in this forum X1 really is something of a setback.  Sure under the hood is the same but playing games with you users by changing the way we get to things is very inconsiderate and ignorant on Cakewalks part if you want to keep your professional customers. Sonar is a musicians tool...not a fashion statement and should be treated as such. The way the classical guitar is built is consistent and has never changed. The way the toilet is built is consistent and has never changed. The way the human body is built is consistent and has never changed. Evolved? Yes...but on the inside...not the exterior.

 Maybe cakewalk should have introduced X1 step by step like they did from the Cakewalk 9 days thru Sonar 8.5.3. X1 is  a rushed and clumsy attempt and the posts and frustration of what looks like thousands of Sonar users  in this forum is obvious proof. So unless you get a paycheck from Roland or Cakewalk  ...being distracted by X1 doesn't hold water if you make a living at production. I want my classical guitar....(functional DAW)..not some cosmetic mess that does not hold a candle to its previous version. All I have to say is ...after this X1 joke ...X2 had better bugless be FREE!!!

Supercomposer

trimph1


I'm kind of puzzled about why it could work on essentially the same platform with some people and yet not do the same on someone else's..

 
People use different features, there are the users who throw in 5 tracks and import some urban techno dubstep triphow whatever loops and applaud how GREAT that works,  and others with 100 MIDI tracks running to VSTi having a chrash fest und find countless bugs, yet others, mostly the known fanbois here who obviously do nothing than opening the program and look at it, but mostly work on their post count here at the forum.
 
Still puzzled?

How could you possibly know that? You are one cynical individual. so any one who does not have issues does not use the program-Well, not like the great composer you are, of course. we know because you have told us so.
 
For myself, I have stated that I do not use ASnap, VVocal, PRV and the only plugs besides CW's are kontakt 4 with many, many libraries and Izotope and alloy. My projects normally are 30-40 midi tracks-3-4 live guitar tracks and 3-4 vocal tracks.
I have no show stopping issues in 853 or X1a. Have not learned or heavily used x1a and I won't until I have a better grasp on it. Never have. But in your eyes I am either lying or stupid.
 
You and others wonder why some of us get upset? Give me a break. Read your post a few times.
 
For Myself, I can say that when Dim Pro "out of tune" basses and such were first brought to the main focus I was livid. And so were many of the forum members you and others call fan boys.
It amazes me that folks who "seem" to have grasp on reality and a working mind post the crap they do.
 
You all may say what you will about those of us that do not insult, hate, despise,  cw.
But I cannot understand the hateful digust many of you display here. IU don't mean personal attacks. They are a company. Yes, as a paying customer you are entitled to **** about problems.
Maybe that's the difference between many of you and me.
I would be long gone if I was that upset and disgusted with Sonar. I just don't get the I'm just hanging around to put CW down and anyone who says they do not have an issue.
frickin' unbelievable.

That is why I think a completely internet free system becomes almost a requirement on its own...although that could pose new issues...

stratman70

Supercomposer

trimph1


I'm kind of puzzled about why it could work on essentially the same platform with some people and yet not do the same on someone else's..

 
People use different features, there are the users who throw in 5 tracks and import some urban techno dubstep triphow whatever loops and applaud how GREAT that works,  and others with 100 MIDI tracks running to VSTi having a chrash fest und find countless bugs, yet others, mostly the known fanbois here who obviously do nothing than opening the program and look at it, but mostly work on their post count here at the forum.
 
Still puzzled?

How could you possibly know that? You are one cynical individual. so any one who does not have issues does not use the program-Well, not like the great composer you are, of course. we know because you have told us so.
 
For myself, I have stated that I do not use ASnap, VVocal, PRV and the only plugs besides CW's are kontakt 4 with many, many libraries and Izotope and alloy. My projects normally are 30-40 midi tracks-3-4 live guitar tracks and 3-4 vocal tracks.
I have no show stopping issues in 853 or X1a. Have not learned or heavily used x1a and I won't until I have a better grasp on it. Never have. But in your eyes I am either lying or stupid.
 
You and others wonder why some of us get upset? Give me a break. Read your post a few times.
 
For Myself, I can say that when Dim Pro "out of tune" basses and such were first brought to the main focus I was livid. And so were many of the forum members you and others call fan boys.
It amazes me that folks who "seem" to have grasp on reality and a working mind post the crap they do.
 
You all may say what you will about those of us that do not insult, hate, despise,  cw.
But I cannot understand the hateful digust many of you display here. IU don't mean personal attacks. I mean, it's like CW was your girlfriend and she F****d the whole football team.
Theuy are a company. Yes, as a paying customer you are entitled to **** about problems.
Maybe that's the difference between many of you and me.
I would be long gone if I was that upset and disgusted with Sonar. I just don't get the I'm just hanging around to put CW down and anyone who says they do not have an issue.
frickin' unbelievable.

But he tends to post about the software while you post about the people that post about the software.

Well, at least I've stayed out of this one so you can't blame it on the resident ret--- sorry, let me rephrase, you can't blame it on me.

Bub


Well, at least I've stayed out of this one so you can't blame it on the resident ret--- sorry, let me rephrase, you can't blame it on me.

Thanks a lot!! I almost lost my coffee up my nose!! 
 

trimph1

Bub


Well, at least I've stayed out of this one so you can't blame it on the resident ret--- sorry, let me rephrase, you can't blame it on me.

Thanks a lot!! I almost lost my coffee up my nose!! 

5 pages?

Would really like to see one of these crashing scenarios get solved. Unfortunately I can't offer anything more than has already been suggested. Delay memory lek came to mind but the symptoms don't take enough time. Either way good luck to the OP.

Still not 5 pages.

Depends on who you get to build it.... 


Now, if you were going to do it on your own....


Nuts...still not 5 pages... 

stratman70

Supercomposer

trimph1


I'm kind of puzzled about why it could work on essentially the same platform with some people and yet not do the same on someone else's..

 
People use different features, there are the users who throw in 5 tracks and import some urban techno dubstep triphow whatever loops and applaud how GREAT that works,  and others with 100 MIDI tracks running to VSTi having a chrash fest und find countless bugs, yet others, mostly the known fanbois here who obviously do nothing than opening the program and look at it, but mostly work on their post count here at the forum.
 
Still puzzled?

How could you possibly know that? You are one cynical individual. so any one who does not have issues does not use the program-Well, not like the great composer you are, of course
 
frickin' unbelievable.

Well thanks for the personal attack, but I did NOT say what you made out of it. I said exactly what I quoted, meaning if you use different features than the ones others use, or just do not push the program that hard AS OTHERS DO, you might NOT run into problems, fine. But if you use X1 under heavy workload, I am talking actually about a fu***** LONG time builiding a suitable template, with 20+ Kontakt instances, Vienna Ensemble Pro, East West Play, three different synths and imported video material, do THAT, and X1 will fail miserably, it WILL and it DOES fail, it perhaps does not fail for loop cutter hip hop beat boys, or people simply looking at the pretty GUI discussing button colors here, or some vocal or guitar recording + a handful synths, well, WOOOHOOO, which DAW can´t do all that in 2011??
 
X1 fails for my purpose, miserably, and I accept no arguing about that FACT.
And I am sure if I had the time to investigate and fu** around, days and days to blame my otherwise perfectly working system instead of the fu**** up code that X1 is, were industry leading software solutions JUST WORK OUT OF THE BOX like expected, then I´d probably start a 10 page thread, trying to get bug repros and "USER HELP" whereas the only help that (perhaps) makes sense is the PATCH X1B fixing X1A, but hey, I tell you something: I don´t have time for that  anymore.