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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4 Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
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☄ Helpfulby Rocsee70 2016/06/06 04:33:03
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So many sad little people... glad I'm not one of them....
Yup. Upgrade to lifetime or not. You have the money or you don't. Simples.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 00:40:01
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Blades Beware: Long post is a comin'...it's not a bunch of negative complaining though, so if you have a few minutes of reading time, I'd appreciate your ear/eyes and input. I am one of the folks who got sidetracked away from my music hobby. I've been so busy running my business, working IN that business, working ON that business, learning new things about writing/creating websites and the like, and just having too little time left to dedicate to music that I've forgotten a lot of what I knew, from how to use Sonar to its fullest potential (or even creating videos teaching others how to use it) to how to play my instruments as well as I could, which aside from drums was already a challenge for me to get through. I stopped at X3, but realistically, I got through 8.5, knowing it really well, got on the X1 bandwagon and didn't use it a lot, skipped X2 for many of the reasons above but also because it just didn't seem that the X generation of the application was fully baked and still stammering, then went to X3 with the intention of getting "back into it", which I basically have not. When the rolling updates of Platinum and monthly or yearly subscription fees came along, I didn't nay-say like many - at least not completely. I was watching with interest as new stuff got added, developments came out, many good, some sort of "what the heck is that and why would I care" (especially with the modules Anderton released, where maybe I'm just missing the bus, but seemed like "well we have to add SOMETHING this month..."). I also saw some of the items getting added that I think would not qualify as Core updates, like the bass loops that got added early on, described as "get these now or if you sign up later, they won't be added in the package". These are the sorts of things that I don't really care anything about and the kind of things that I was concerned would make up a lot of the rolling updates plan. I think I was wrong here. So now I look through what all has changed with the Core of the program on the rolling updates page, plus the things that got added that I think would fall into that description in the Updates for Life plan even if they aren't actually Core like Notepad is Core to Windows. So now I'm presented with a great deal: $199 for forever updates. In the "old" non-subscription model, I'd have paid $179 in any given year to get to the new version. I think there was one $99 time and one or two $199 times, but the jist of it is that for the most part, the $199 I'd pay now to upgrade for Lifetime updates is not that dissimilar to what I used to pay for a year. If I were to go with monthly payments (like I considered when the subscriptions started), I'd have paid $180/year at $15/month. I wouldn't have to go much past a year at the new model to make it worthwhile. Likewise, if I had paid the $99 upfront for a year of updates, I'd only have to have done that for the two years since I stopped updating to have spent the $199. Now I can spend that same $199 and get it for good. Granted, I didn't get any use of any of those updates for the past two+ years, but it still seems like a pretty good deal to me. But only if I use it. I am still trying to wrap my head around all that will get updated compared to my X3 version, how many new features will pile onto an already somewhat unfamiliar feature-set (of X3 that I can use but not as fluently as I'd prefer), how many bugs will be fixed. I also wonder if I'll even notice many of these things, like the subtle changes in the Prochannel, the workflow changes in things like comping that are coming (I was still an old "layers guy who never really adopted the full capabilities of comping"), the additions of Melodyne Editor when I don't really think I've used Essentials over the old V-Vocal, the addition of Addictive Drums 2 when I didn't use the AD except for fiddling around, etc. I see that a ton of bugs have been fixed, but are the ones that I have addressed? It seems that each update I've seen since quite some time has carried forward all of the bugs that have bothered me with no response as to even acknowledge that they exist. I still see that there are many things that hold onto the old interfaces, like the Drum Map Manager for example. Hideous and still somewhat problematic in the display as far as the maps themselves (and you all know that I'm a huge Drum Map advocate). It all sorks fine, just seems really disjointed from the rest of the interface that moved forward. I see that there are issues with the Mackie Control that never got fixed after the X series was released. They sent the dll out to the open source and except for AzSlow, nothing seems to have happened. And they are making a Mac version. Nice for them, but I would have preferred that they at least buttoned up some of the long term things as above, fixed some stuff that people have complained about incessantly like the staff view, and focused on the program from the perspective of the (I have to imagine) the great majority of folks who use Sonar because it's great but also because they have PCs and not Macs. I don't envision that people have PCs FOR Cakewalk as much as this other way around. I am sure there are cases of all examples, but my guess is that people use PCs for the most part because that's what they want to use. I also see things like the Contour Shuttle device that I bought from Cakewalk many years ago - abandoned. No more plugin past the version of Sonar that was available at that time. I understand that it was a third party product, but it was purchased from Cakewalk with software that integrated it INTO Cakewalk and then they chose not to develop that same software into their new version and now the device is far less useful and has been waiting for a miracle as it sits unplugged longing to be used again. I have a BCF2000, an Edirol PCR800, and a Frontier Design Tranzport, and none of them are as cool as the Contour Shuttle was when it was released for controlling all the transport functions. Just the scrub wheel not being usable at the "beat" level and instead only at the "measure" level kind of killed the device for me - seems really trivial but it was a great time saver and just worked better than any of these other devices because of its variable speed, spring-loaded wheel. I only bring up a few of these as the Devil's Advocate: How long before "lifetime" is the "lifetime of Sonar Platinum". How long before Melodyne gets dropped out of the integration because of Sonar updates? - just an example as a third party application integration. How the heck am I going to even find the things that are new, let alone learn them? This early-morning post has been coming for quite some time and I've just finally had a chance to sit down and write. So I'm sure it is a lot of rambling on a lot of topics, but I feel like I must be thinking some of the same things as many who have been around these forums for a long time as I have. I welcome any feedback anyone has about any of this. I'm likely to take advantage of this lifetime opportunity, but I sure would enjoy the encouragement!
Blades...I too have gotten sidetracked by other parts of life over the years... and struggled with all the updates for the past decade... but now I'm in hog heaven! If ur still on X3 and can afford the upgrade, IMO it's a NoBrainer... Do I use half of what came out monthly over the past year? NO...all the non core stuff? Never touched it... but all the core improvements>>> mix recall, aux tracks, record midi+audio simultaneously/print audio whenever... it is a LONG list... and the new stuff (themes, ripple editing, etc) are WAY COOL...I CAN'T IMAGINE EVER GOING BACK TO X3... NF'nW! You are obviously articulate and have a brain... you gotta couple months to save up... do it! Today I finally got paid and bought iZotopes vocal synth, the Lifetime deal, and as they were willing to include RapturePro for 39$, I bit... Rapture use to be my favorite synth in the old days and I DO like the name...she was my first love...and I'll get to know her again... Yummy evening!
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 02:34:41
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olive2sing I think us smokers should get a discount, our lifetime runs out sooner.
Now you have a reason to give up smoking - get more value out of your lifetime updates!
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 02:46:24
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On the website information page it states:“Act now! Lifetime Updates are available for purchase only until August 31st, 2016.” I have just read 5 pages of this forum thread and no one seems to be dealing with this statement. Are we talking a major game-changing announcement, or just a temporary one time only offer – a get in quick sale? It reads to me like the deal is off after August 31 and everybody goes back to the previous purchasing system. Or am I just misinterpreting the statement?
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 02:58:21
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Dilaco1 On the website information page it states:“Act now! Lifetime Updates are available for purchase only until August 31st, 2016.” I have just read 5 pages of this forum thread and no one seems to be dealing with this statement. Are we talking a major game-changing announcement, or just a temporary one time only offer – a get in quick sale? It reads to me like the deal is off after August 31 and everybody goes back to the previous purchasing system. Or am I just misinterpreting the statement?
Nobody's talking about it because it's been pretty clear since the beginning of all this kafuffle. Yes, it is a time-limited offer, and on Sept 1 apparently everything will go back to the way it was before, except that those of us who have bought into the lifetime offer get Sonar Platinum updates indefinitely, without having to pay anything further. Anyone who has not done so will continue to pay monthly or yearly for whichever Sonar tier they want to, or not. The overall model has not changed. Of course, as with any such thing, Cakewalk may in fact decide to extend it, or offer it again in future, but for the moment as far as we know it's a temporary opportunity.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 09:34:11
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upgraded. And happy...well done guys... :)
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 10:00:39
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subtlearts
Nobody's talking about it because it's been pretty clear since the beginning of all this kafuffle. Yes, it is a time-limited offer, and on Sept 1 apparently everything will go back to the way it was before, except that those of us who have bought into the lifetime offer get Sonar Platinum updates indefinitely, without having to pay anything further. Anyone who has not done so will continue to pay monthly or yearly for whichever Sonar tier they want to, or not. The overall model has not changed. Of course, as with any such thing, Cakewalk may in fact decide to extend it, or offer it again in future, but for the moment as far as we know it's a temporary opportunity.
This just might be the reasoning behind the deal. Cakewalk gets a quick influx of money to support the additional costs of development of the Mac version which will, down the road, produce another influx of money. The 4Life deal will attract a good number of current subscribers and certainly may attract a decent number of new buyers. Since the industry seems to drifting toward the subscriber model, many might be attracted to a deal for a permanent license with updates for life. Then the offer ends. The subscribers who have not jumped on the offer will not still be paying the monthly or annual price which will probably have enough holdouts and people who have bought after August 31st to generate some income flow. Then what happens when they need another influx ... well they throw the offer out again in the future.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 12:01:55
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I can see a world (on or after Sept 1, 2016) where a new purchaser of Platinum (ONLY) automatically come with lifetime upgrades/fixes/enhancements. They are doing that in the store now. I imagine they will just continue with that. Future BIG sales will be "Upgrade your Artist/Professional to Platinum, with lifetime support, for $x/$y" IOW, ultimately all Platinum owners will be on lifetime support. That's what a pro studio would find VERY attractive.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 12:12:52
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I for one am not buying into this money grab to support MAC development. Part of your money will go toward this and not toward updating Sonar PC. I am not giving these guys $199 of my money without seeing what I am getting. How about a written guarantee they will continue monthly updates for at least the next two years and commit to adding x number of new vsts, other plug ins, and improvements. If they are truly 'listening', how about a list of features people are requesting you will commit to. They could at any time discontinue the current platinum product or reduce the frequency or quality of the updates. Once you give them your money, you give up control and choice. Also, why are they discontinuing this offer after August. FL Studio does not have a time limit to purchase their product with Lifetime updates. This is all very fishy to me and I don't care what Craig and the other paid employees come out here and say. There is a strategy behind all of this. What if after August they announce a new product line and you want to jump to this. Well, you've lost your money. Remember no company does this sort of thing unless they financially benefit by it. When they said big announcements coming, I thought this mean some great new products I would be willing to spend money on. What we got instead was a money grab called lifetime updates, a mac version which this funds the development that will be a losing proposition for them and take away from the pc version updating, and re-announcement of rolling updates which was already there. Really disappointed at this botched marketing attempt. They should have just announced the lifetime update thingy and the mac version separately so the connection was not so obvious, and forgot about the rolling updates - this is old news. By the way what happened to the Library update they were working on - disappeared on the list of future updates. Browsing of vst presets sucks in Sonar compared with others such as Cubase, not to mention midi and staff view editing and features. I hope this gets fixed at some point. As other people are doing, I will not renew my platinum membership and will wait and see what kind of updates they actually do and new products they bring out. If I see value a year or two down the road, then I'll jump back in. If not I have my $199 to put toward crossing over to another DAW. I will never pay for a product unseen. I know Cakewalk will offer great deals in the future and I don't feel the pressure that I will miss the boat on any of this.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 12:49:24
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bsantini99 I for one am not buying into this money grab to support MAC development...
I think that's a valid perspective. Over the last 15 months, I've spent $300 on Sonar Platinum. It's not clear that I have to spend any more to keep the core product supported and running. I believe this ultimately places the pressure back on Cakewalk to produce something I actually want to pay additional money for. That is courageous of Cakewalk, and that does take a fair amount of commitment and dedication. Otherwise, they've cut off customers like me that have happily paid for nearly 20 years. Allan
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 14:08:18
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I can see not spending money on Sonar updates if that is your choice. I am happy with the program as it has been as an annual subscription. With 4life, I am not obligated to spend another dime and I still get updates. This has never been true for any other DAW available although someone mentioned FL having a similar policy. Look at other DAWs most are now subscription and if you don't keep up the subscription, you can't use the product at all. I had Cubase many years ago and I liked the product, but the company had no regard for its users. I was told not to even discuss their policy of requiring a hardware key by their mods on their board. Also, they would not respond to tech support requests because the contacts were dead links. I gave up Cubase even though I liked the DAW just for those reasons. Besides Cubase the only other DAW I would consider is Pro Tools, but of course, that is too expensive and absolutely requires a subscription. If I didn't like the deal, I can't see jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. However, I am happy with the deal even if eventually the product fails. Let's face it, if they sold this plan and then dropped the product for another new incarnation in less than a few years, the hate generated would be their downfall.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 14:43:52
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The Yak and Sonar got hitched as well... Is it legal for Sonar to be married to so many people at the same time? I thought Cake was located in Boston, not Utah?... Next thing MTV is going to run a show called, Sonar Sister Wives... Anyway, Tuesday is my day with Craig, so back off b**ches!!!
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 16:12:20
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Certainly, it's anyone's individual choice to get the lifetime update deal or not. In my case, I have not made a Sonar purchase in about 2.5 years - X3. I got into the lifetime deal for $199. If I had paid that $99/year sub for the past two years, that's how much I would have spent. I HAVE now seen what the subscription would bring during those two years. As long as I see that as worth the $199 it was for my lifetime sub, even if they never did another thing, I still got what I wanted, knowing what I was getting, and paid the same amount as I would have anyway (in the period where I didn't know what was coming). So I look at it as anything they add from today forward, for me, is completely free. Meanwhile, if you want to keep paying the $99/year, good luck, I hope it works out for both of us. Either way, Cakewalk gets that money from both of us for the next two years (if you spread my lifetime payment over that period). What they do with it remains to be seen. If they do what's on the current rolling pipeline plus some other things they haven't announced, great! Folks - it's really not that hard! If it's a money grab, there's a business reason for it and if you think every dime you've given Cakewalk over the years wasn't to fuel a business, you are simply naïve. If it's not a money grab and they are just looking to retain loyalty and are bringing people back into the fold that used to be very active (like me), then "thanks Cakewalk, you brought me back". Enjoy your music making, whether you do it with your current version of Sonar and never update again, subscribe to the monthly, yearly, or lifetime model, or switch to another DAW that pleases you at the moment and inspires you to "do your thing"!
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 16:24:19
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Hey Vastman - I made the jump yesterday to the Lifetime sub. I'm pretty excited to get going again. I just need to figure out where to start. I got everything installed yesterday, though I still need to do the Addictive Drums stuff. I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered. At least I found that there is a thread going about the issues with it and I hope that it is corrected soon, as I'd really like to be able to use it in place of the V-Vocal (which was also a pain to get back on the system, even though it was already working in X3 - it had to be installed to appear in Platinum). I was also disappointed that two bugs I've been watching be ignored for the last several years are still bugs. They are not big show-stoppers or anything, just the kind of things that you say "How is this still a problem? I can't be the only one who uses this feature that pretty clearly flat out doesn't work". So far (otherwise) so good, though. I plan on spending some time this evening getting AD installed and figuring out some things.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 16:42:13
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Blades Hey Vastman - I made the jump yesterday to the Lifetime sub. I'm pretty excited to get going again. I just need to figure out where to start. I got everything installed yesterday, though I still need to do the Addictive Drums stuff. I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered. At least I found that there is a thread going about the issues with it and I hope that it is corrected soon, as I'd really like to be able to use it in place of the V-Vocal (which was also a pain to get back on the system, even though it was already working in X3 - it had to be installed to appear in Platinum). I was also disappointed that two bugs I've been watching be ignored for the last several years are still bugs. They are not big show-stoppers or anything, just the kind of things that you say "How is this still a problem? I can't be the only one who uses this feature that pretty clearly flat out doesn't work". So far (otherwise) so good, though. I plan on spending some time this evening getting AD installed and figuring out some things.
Hey, Blades! You'll love it once u get sorted... if you haven't filed a bug report, do so... bakers have been cleaning up loads of um and the "squeaky wheel" syndrome is a fact of life! There's a whole forum for this now... it's good to flag the issues again, even if it's been done in the past. Go here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Problem-Reports-f77.aspx
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/05 18:15:26
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Blades I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.
Say wha? I am on the latest verison of Platinum and have yet to get any sort of crash with Melodyne, EVER. I'm am 64bit all the way, if that makes a difference I don't know.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 04:31:09
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bapu
Blades I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.
Say wha? I am on the latest verison of Platinum and have yet to get any sort of crash with Melodyne, EVER. I'm am 64bit all the way, if that makes a difference I don't know.
The thread on this issue has puzzled me too. I have had the same seamless experience as Bapu with Melodyne, and have the same versions of software installed. I feel for those with a melodyne issue, but the proIeblem isn't universal which no doubt makes it much harder to pin down.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 09:36:19
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bapu
Blades I was disappointed that Melodyne crashed at every turn, especially after dealing with the mess that they have in getting it registered.
Say wha? I am on the latest verison of Platinum and have yet to get any sort of crash with Melodyne, EVER. I'm am 64bit all the way, if that makes a difference I don't know.
Same here. No problems yet.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 09:49:30
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Hi. I opened 2 "cases" in the cakewalk pre-sales support without an answer. Can someone help me here? My problem is: my platinum subscription will end in a few days (I paid a full one-year subscription a year ago). I want to buy the Lifetime Upgrades but I don't have the money right now. If I let my platinum subscription expires, will I lose the option to buy the Lifetime Updates for $199 until Aug, 31? OTOH, if i renew my subscription in a pay-per-month basis (before it expires), will I still be able to buy the Lifetime Updates in the same promotion by August after that? And, if I buy it in this condition, will I have to keep paying the monthly parcels until the last one after that? It's confuse, I know. Cakewalk have not answered my questions (and I've posted days ago). Can someone help me? I need to know how to proceed. Thanks
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scook
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 09:54:38
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sergiosimoes If I let my platinum subscription expires, will I lose the option to buy the Lifetime Updates for $199 until Aug, 31?
No, the offer is good until Aug. 31 even if you let your membership expire.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 10:03:07
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Hey, thanks for the fast answer scook. I'll buy it in August then
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 11:39:57
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My question to Cakewalk (which they probably won't / can't answer)... What are the general future plans for Sonar? How long are they planning to update / support Sonar? That is the only way to define how good of a deal this is for their long-time users... Without quantifying this, I'm having a lot of trouble getting excited about this offer. If in two years they put Sonar to bed and roll out their new flagship DAW, this won't seem anything more than a Kickstarter for a Mac Sonar version.
I don't have an issue paying for additional content but what is the expected lifespan of Sonar?
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 12:12:05
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bsantini99 I for one am not buying into this money grab to support MAC development. Part of your money will go toward this and not toward updating Sonar PC. I am not giving these guys $199 of my money without seeing what I am getting.
Here is what I could think off. I dont think they are stupid to announce Sonar OS X Alpha comming this fall without having the funds in hand. The money grab you are taking about. Of all the speculations I have heard. The best I could speculate is its going to the developement of the upcomming features. Cakewalk is trying to pace up the developement to make sonar look great for the mac release. Thats the best I cound speculate after thinking of all the possibilities and all the speculations in threads. That's the commitement to awesomeness they are proposing. How great these will come up largely depends of how sucessfull the Sonar4Live is for them.
post edited by sonarman1 - 2016/06/07 01:54:05
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 12:24:04
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Hey I bought the lifetime updates but I also have sonar Platinum loaded on the computer. Do I need to download anything from clever Bridge or just the fact that I purchased it means that my version is in the loop? Thank you.
WSS
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 12:27:28
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 12:40:36
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I think I paid for the year. Still have to cancel and recently up? WSS
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 12:48:24
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The monthly payment plan has no term. If you are on that plan, regardless of whether you take advantage of the lifetime updates currently offered, switch to the old one-time payment plan or just want cancel your membership, you would need to cancel the plan. If you previously purchased SONAR with the one-time payment plan and just purchased the lifetime updates, there is nothing to cancel.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 13:11:28
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Blades Beware: Long post is a comin'...it's not a bunch of negative complaining though, so if you have a few minutes of reading time, I'd appreciate your ear/eyes and input. How the heck am I going to even find the things that are new, let alone learn them? ....... This early-morning post has been coming for quite some time and I've just finally had a chance to sit down and write. So I'm sure it is a lot of rambling on a lot of topics, but I feel like I must be thinking some of the same things as many who have been around these forums for a long time as I have. I welcome any feedback anyone has about any of this. I'm likely to take advantage of this lifetime opportunity, but I sure would enjoy the encouragement!
If you are on X3, go to audiodeluxe.com and add the upgrade to Plat from any producer to your cart. The deal is better than $199. At your state, this should be more of a no-brainier than for most people, since you are getting all of the added functionality of the last 18 months in one swoop and getting everything going forward. No way you will use everything. But you say drums is a weak spot for you...doing the upgrade with give you 3 more AD kits, 3 more add packs and 3 set pieces. Buying that outside of this upgrade would actually cost more. Then you get things like drum replacer, which you might not use. Personally the added Rematrix Reverb was a really nice bonus to me and takes almost no time to start applying it to your mixes. They have just now added the much upgrades EQ and Comp mastering plugins. You can run this in non-liner mode as more normal plugs as well. There are a couple short videos on them that should give you enough to start using them in 10 minutes. Mix recall is pretty useful, which you don't have. You also get the lite version of Rapture Pro, if you need more good quality synth sounds. Keep in mind that this purchase also gives you some future proof on the product. Some windows update might mess up X3 at some point. Having the lifetime solves that problem. You can look at the rolling updates to see what you are going to get. Like you said, only the drum production video and the Loops and kick start pack that were put out for a particular release will not be included. I've found that Platinum actually has better support for some 32bit plugs when working in 64bit mode. This alone may have saved me some upgrade costs. The new Tempo Mapping with Melodyne 4 is HUGE if you like to play live without using a click track. For some of us, that is revolutionary.
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Re: Big announcement: #SONAR4Life, #SONAR4Mac, #SONAR4You
2016/06/06 13:16:53
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bsantini99 I for one am not buying into this money grab to support MAC development. Part of your money will go toward this and not toward updating Sonar PC. I am not giving these guys $199 of my money without seeing what I am getting.
Most of the development is clearly already done. As they have said, it already works on a MAC, it just needs more work. The plan is also that the MAC version will also increase their customer base which will give them even more money to develop the PC product to. This is exactly the kind of thing I want to support, even though I do not like MACs. It is smart business plain and simple. Long term plan. If you are paying $199 that also means you are on an older version, which means you do know some of what you would be getting.
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