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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 13:06:44 (permalink)
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GRACIAS MENK POR ESTE INCREIBLE SERVICIO, GRACIAS BANDLAB POR ESTA HERMOSURA DE CAKEWALK, PERO LA PREGUNTA ¿PORQUE NO RESPETARON EL IDIOMA ESPAÑOL EN ESTA VERSIÓN? SONAR PLATINUM YA LA TENÍA, SERIA DE AGRADECER FACILITARAN LA FORMA DE REGRESAR A MI IDIOMA ESPAÑOL... GRACIAS.


Hola, Enrique. Yo uso la versión en inglés, pero por lo que dicen arriba puedes probar a cambiar el idioma en las opciones del Cakewalk Control Center si lo tienes aún instalado.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 14:19:04 (permalink)
Hi
My view Is you get nothing for free and I am a little confused here.
There has got to be a payment somewhere down the line.
 
Do I now unload the Sonar Platinum Cakewalk centre and uninstall all my stuff to reload with Bandlab assistant.??
 
If I use the Bandlab assistant  and log in with facebook or Google, then all and sundrae can download a £400 program for free!!!! So where is the profit for Bandlab.
Surely the previous owners of Platinum will have a personal codes to enter.
I do not want to make a mistake on my new computer or mess up what I already have, so i need to be sure of what Is going on.
 
Surely only previous owners of Sonar can download this product and not open to all.
I keep hearing the word free and there has got to be a catch somewhere.TELL ME!!!.
I am not doubting Bandlabs Intentions, but I need some clarity and steps to take before being happy.
 
All the Best
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 14:36:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2018/04/15 16:46:11
Nothing is free - which is why BandLab seems to be stripping out FX/Synths that they can then sell as add ons.  I imagine they are thinking of a whole different market place - get people to download the free DAW, then sell them VST/VSTis, loops etc.  Much like Kontakt or live packs etc.   Their price is buying and writing off SONAR as a DAW only.  Except they can add a few extras like Rapt Pro II and SSL channel strip and sell that version of SONAR, hopefully to a whole lot more people enticed through the BandLab site.  And that are just some of my ideas, and I don't have an MBA.
 
Plus, they hope you use their website as social media where you are the product.  Are you happy know about how they could make money off you now and you still come out ahead and happy, John?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 15:30:36 (permalink)
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Hi
My view Is you get nothing for free and I am a little confused here.
There has got to be a payment somewhere down the line.
 
Do I now unload the Sonar Platinum Cakewalk centre and uninstall all my stuff to reload with Bandlab assistant.??
 
If I use the Bandlab assistant  and log in with facebook or Google, then all and sundrae can download a £400 program for free!!!! So where is the profit for Bandlab.
Surely the previous owners of Platinum will have a personal codes to enter.
I do not want to make a mistake on my new computer or mess up what I already have, so i need to be sure of what Is going on.
 
Surely only previous owners of Sonar can download this product and not open to all.
I keep hearing the word free and there has got to be a catch somewhere.TELL ME!!!.
I am not doubting Bandlabs Intentions, but I need some clarity and steps to take before being happy.
 
All the Best
John

 
No .. leave your SPLAT as is and CCC
 
Just load the BL Assistant app ( login with your Bandlab Account ) and install BL Cakewalk ONLY. Do not install the optional instruments, you have those already. BL Cakewalk installs in its own directory under program files seperate from SPLAT.
 
When creating a Bnadlab account use the same email address that you used for here - Cakewalk legacy account. Going forward this shows BL what software you bought from Cakewalk so as to probably offer paid upgrades to previous owners of those extra plugins you might own like Rapture, Z3TA etc. These were never going to be free anyway
 
 
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 15:31:14 (permalink)
Should I install additional content if I already have all that stuff on my system?  I'm sure this has been asked already somehwere.  Just haven't seen they answer yet.
 
Edit:  Looks like it was just answer above as soon as I posted. Lol.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 15:31:29 (permalink)
I couldn't get it out of Demo Mode despite repeatedly following the instructions. Yes I have an BandLab account. Yes I used the same email as my CW account. Yes I installed it exactly per instructions. However I have uninstalled the Bandlab Assistant and CW program due to its intrusive nature. This is from the Startup tab of the Win 10 Task Manager. Even after uninstalling everything I had to manually delete the Github updater and a lot of the leftover CW content (not personal files but generic content). I appreciate the generosity of Bandlab although I do already own Sonar X3 but it's pretty sloppy implementation. I do not need Bandlab Assistant and Github update program running at startup and yes I know I can block them from within Windows. Very intrusive setup and potentially a security risk (Github). I'd pay a small fee to upgrade my Sonar X3 but without all the bloatware.
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 16:01:07 (permalink)
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I got this too - I think it's referring to an update to the BandLab Assistant rather than CbB.
M.



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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 16:04:54 (permalink)
I have downloaded and installed Cakewalk by BandLab without issues, next to my existing - most recent - Platinum version. It seems to work all ok and is recognizing the Cakewalk Sonar only plugins such as Adaptive Limiter.
 
Great to see that Sonar breaths again..!
 
Looking forward to see more from BandLab
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 16:36:54 (permalink)
I for one will not be installing Cakewalk by BandLab. It may be the New Yorker in me but none of this seems right. Meng comes across way too upbeat and positive. The sales pitch is way too hard. I hope I'm wrong and I hope no one gets burned in the process. The folks on this forum are a good bunch of people. I wish everyone the best!
 
Right after the Gibson/Cakewalk debacle, I tried Studio One and so far, it's been a good experience. I'll keep Sonar Platinum installed so I can move stems and Midi tracks over to Studio One if needed.
 
I still drop in from time to time though to read up on what's going on. This is definitely a fun forum! The PreSonus forum is very technical. No horsing around over there!

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 17:22:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2018/04/15 16:47:17
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Google, Windows 10, and Facebook are free. Get the picture?
Cakewalk users are not users anymore, they are now a product.



Windows 10 is most certainly not free.  It was free to all users of Windows 7 and 8 for a limited time offer.  It is now at least $120 to purchase brand new.  $200 if you want the pro version.  

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 17:32:22 (permalink)
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Google, Windows 10, and Facebook are free. Get the picture?
Cakewalk users are not users anymore, they are now a product.


Windows is not free. Android and iOS are free. (iOS you might be able to argue otherwise but all updates are certainly free. Whether you 'pay' for the first version installed on you mobile device is debatable.) What OS do you have on your phone???
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 17:33:27 (permalink)
Maybe BandLab is telling me that it’s time to upgrade my computer 🙂
I’m still 32 bit 🙂 that’s not free at all ;-)
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 17:36:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jps 2018/04/05 17:40:36
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Maybe BandLab is telling me that it’s time to upgrade my computer 🙂
I’m still 32 bit 🙂 that’s not free at all ;-)


If you have Windows 10 installed and your computer is 64 bit capable, you can install Windows 10 64-bit for free. Your license works with either version. You'll, of course, have to meet memory requirements but you probably do if you're using a DAW on the machine. To my knowledge, that is not true of Windows 7.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 17:45:24 (permalink)
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Maybe BandLab is telling me that it’s time to upgrade my computer 🙂
I’m still 32 bit 🙂 that’s not free at all ;-)



Here is some info that may be helpful to you, jps: https://www.howtogeek.com/228042/how-to-switch-from-32-bit-windows-10-to-64-bit-windows-10/
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 17:48:06 (permalink)
Thank you...i hope melodyne still works
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 18:01:03 (permalink)
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Thank you...i hope melodyne still works

It does and I have Melodyne Studio.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 18:47:29 (permalink)
I can not tell if he's good or not. I can not get him out of demo mode. I followed all the instructions the support team gave me. I lost a lot of time yesterday and today installing and uninstalling the application. I give up ... Maybe they will release an update to correct this ....
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 18:48:47 (permalink)
Waiting to see how much the NEXT update will cost when it comes out... and if this version will stop working when it does.
 
Meh... maybe not. I've moved on.
 
Also, why would you even want to install this when you already have the latest SPLAT if there is no new content, LESS content even? Were there bug fixes?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:05:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby astaub 2018/04/08 19:48:01
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When I rebooted this morning (new iLok drivers) Bandlab Assistant opened up (despite the fact I'd rather it didn't) and brought up this awesomely bad dialog.
 

 
Would it be too much to ask that software that asks to make changes to my computer identify itself in the title bar and ideally message text?  I hate having to guess what software is telling me a new update is available.


 
Wow, an "anonymous update" to your system!?!  This is a very poor practice, please change ASAP !!!   
 
Otherwise, I greatly appreciate what Bandlab seems to be doing to save Cakewalk.    Thanks

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:07:44 (permalink)
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Waiting to see how much the NEXT update will cost when it comes out... and if this version will stop working when it does.
 
Meh... maybe not. I've moved on.
 
Also, why would you even want to install this when you already have the latest SPLAT if there is no new content, LESS content even? Were there bug fixes?


Thanks for stopping by.
 
The NEXT update won't cost a thing from http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3745236
meng
Platform and future product updates will continue to be free, just like BandLab - innovation must push forward!

But don't expect Rapture Pro for example to be free when it is re-released :-) (except for those that have bought it before in some way or form and have already created a BandLab account)

 
Yes, there were updates in this release mentioned in the OP.
 
Bye for now.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:07:56 (permalink)
Thank you BandLab :) Everything installed smoothly here. It would be nice to have some install directory options etc
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:10:24 (permalink)
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At first glance, everyone should rejoice. But let's look carefully.
1. The new program in fact breaks compatibility with previous versions.
2. There is a legal problem that I immediately see. The company is reasonably accused of dumping and unfair competition and, as a consequence, will go bankrupt.
3. If you do not even go bankrupt, there will be no normally working support.
Hence the question: which young child took this decision?


Very good thoughts here.
This implies that there is a possibility that my current version of SPLAT might someday not be able to be installed on a new PC.

Is that how you see it?

Thank you!

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:10:28 (permalink)
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Google, Windows 10, and Facebook are free. Get the picture?
Cakewalk users are not users anymore, they are now a product.


Windows is not free. Android and iOS are free. (iOS you might be able to argue otherwise but all updates are certainly free. Whether you 'pay' for the first version installed on you mobile device is debatable.) What OS do you have on your phone???


 I still use windows phone :) :) :) Have an android crap thing too, I don't like it.
 
But to be serious - I wouldt compare Bandlab to YouTube. That means, they need content. Why not give users a great tool to create? The outstanding feature of Bandlab is to collaborate. I think, some users will be overchallenged with this new approach.
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:15:36 (permalink)
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I upgraded from Sonar Professional and opened a few existing projects and all played flawlessly. I then proceeded to master within a mix and when it came time to export to 16bit wav, I noticed there was no Pow-r Dithering. Oh well, I hope it can be a paid add-on sometime in the future. 


Ouch! This one hurts. I find the powr algo preferable. I guess I'll be doing my file exports from Sonar.

I think this issue needs some attention as I don't know of any way to add alternative dithering to Cake...

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:25:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2018/04/15 16:48:27
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I for one will not be installing Cakewalk by BandLab. It may be the New Yorker in me but none of this seems right. Meng comes across way too upbeat and positive. The sales pitch is way too hard. I hope I'm wrong and I hope no one gets burned in the process. The folks on this forum are a good bunch of people. I wish everyone the best!
 
Right after the Gibson/Cakewalk debacle, I tried Studio One and so far, it's been a good experience. I'll keep Sonar Platinum installed so I can move stems and Midi tracks over to Studio One if needed.
 
I still drop in from time to time though to read up on what's going on. This is definitely a fun forum! The PreSonus forum is very technical. No horsing around over there!
It's terrible isn't it? Somebody being upbeat and positive........I'd much rather the new proprietor was a miserable uninspiring dullard..........

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:27:06 (permalink)
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When I rebooted this morning (new iLok drivers) Bandlab Assistant opened up (despite the fact I'd rather it didn't) and brought up this awesomely bad dialog.
 

 
Would it be too much to ask that software that asks to make changes to my computer identify itself in the title bar and ideally message text?  I hate having to guess what software is telling me a new update is available.


 
Wow, an "anonymous update" to your system!?!  This is a very poor practice, please change ASAP !!!   
 
Otherwise, I greatly appreciate what Bandlab seems to be doing to save Cakewalk.    Thanks




This is a very good point.  Please put in the title bar that this is for Bandlab rather than just saying Updates.  The first time I saw it, I had no idea what it was for either. 

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:38:59 (permalink)
Hi team,
 
All worked flawlessly, well done to Bandlab!
Personally I'm very happy we got rid of the bloatware, which has always annoyed me about Sonar.
I know that the Command Center tried to help with this but I still felt like too much content was thrown at us.
I want a slick easy to use straightforward DAW, that is it.
However, my entire software is no English, would love to be able to change it back to German.
 
Can anybody help me with this?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:39:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby astaub 2018/04/08 19:50:02
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Waiting to see how much the NEXT update will cost when it comes out... and if this version will stop working when it does.
 
Meh... maybe not. I've moved on.
 
Also, why would you even want to install this when you already have the latest SPLAT if there is no new content, LESS content even? Were there bug fixes?


Thanks for stopping by.
 
The NEXT update won't cost a thing from http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3745236
meng
Platform and future product updates will continue to be free, just like BandLab - innovation must push forward!

But don't expect Rapture Pro for example to be free when it is re-released :-) (except for those that have bought it before in some way or form and have already created a BandLab account)

 
Yes, there were updates in this release mentioned in the OP.
 
Bye for now.




OK well thanks for the reply and the pointer to the post but if that is going to be the model... free tools for the users of BandLab's main offering... well where's the incentive to make this the best DAW on the market beyond the point Meng sells-out or launches the new model?
 
As far as I can tell, BandLab is going with the Facebook/YouTube model... make it all free-and-clear and then when the user base is big enough and hooked enough, sell advertisements, sell product advancements (ranked higher on searches, guaranteed hits in "random" playlists, etc.), user "subscriptions" that allow bypassing ads, sell mined profile data/targeted ads and then launch a big IPO or hope some larger company buys it out.
 
If and when that doesn't all work out? Well Cakewalk is once again kaput and the users are desperately hoping someone else will bail the product out yet again.
 
If I were using Cakewalk to make a living (I'm not) then I would give up for good and go with something in which you have at least reasonable security that it will be around for a while.
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:43:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby astaub 2018/04/08 19:50:19
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...would love to be able to change it back to German.

Localization is coming later. For now it's English-only. Hab Geduld.


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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/05 19:44:36 (permalink)
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