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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 22:46:25
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☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2018/04/15 17:02:41
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Opened my first piece, which was from 8.5 Studio, and it opened perfectly, pulling in everything for a full orchestra piece.
You mean that project was done in Sonar 8.5 Studio and it worked perfectly in the new Cakewalk? So is it so backwards compatible? Also BandLab should publish the exact, detailed list of features and VST/VSTi included.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 22:59:51
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☄ Helpfulby texasaurus rex 2018/04/06 06:59:03
Some people.... If you handed them a 20 dollar bill they would complain because it was wrinkled. I currently own 4 DAWs. Sonar has not been exclusively #1 for me for a while, even before the Cakewalk collapse. But I regard it as a capable and worthwhile product.
I told a musician friend who is interested in getting into recording about the Bandlab acquisition, and the opportunity to own a full featured DAW for FREE. Instead of enthusiasm, his reaction was suspicion. *shrug*
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 23:02:59
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I rely on CWAF heavily to clean up my project files. I just noticed that CWAF is displaying this message on any previous project that I saved with the new CbB: The following files were either unreadable by CWAF, or written by a newer version of SONAR than CWAF expects. Unless they were created by a different application, or known to be compatible, you should restore them from a backup copy before proceeding with any file operations. In the case of newer files, please verify that you have the latest version of CWAF from http://www.cakewalk.comCORRUPT or FUTURE Project file versions can cause false ORPHAN wave indications Please USE CARE! Then it lists the only two .cwp files that I recently saved with CbB
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 23:31:07
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Hello. I am Italian and I was a Sonar lifetime user. Will there ever be a version of Cakewalk by Bandlab in Italian or in general in multi-lingual as it was before Sonar?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 23:37:18
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☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/06 00:06:34
Multi-language support could not make this release but is planned for a future release.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 23:48:13
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Great news. I see a number of people already downloaded the "new" version. I have a few questions for you guys (especially those who had Platinum):
1) Can these two (Platinum and new cakewalk by BandLab) coexist on the same system?
2) Do I need to remove Platinum in order to put the new one?
3) During installation, can I decide where to put Cakewalk Content like I could with Platinum (I used separate drive for that...)
4) Is the installation fully automated once I tell it to install the additional content? (that's how far I got before canceling :) ) I generally do not like installations of large applications like this that are done without allowing user to confirm what is about to be installed... or automatically removing the installer executable once the installation completed.
I guess I would like to install this new one in parallel until I make sure my previous work would be possible to use without major effort at which point I could remove "old" SONAR.
I have an image of the system drive, etc., but I would hate to waste time putting it back if this installation messes up my current settings...
Any suggestions/comments?
Thanx,
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 23:51:11
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☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/06 00:07:14
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DeBro
I upgraded from Sonar Professional and opened a few existing projects and all played flawlessly. I then proceeded to master within a mix and when it came time to export to 16bit wav, I noticed there was no Pow-r Dithering. Oh well, I hope it can be a paid add-on sometime in the future.
Wow, good spot. This is a MAJOR issue. I'm going back to old Platinum until that's sorted. I don't understand; surely Pow-r Dithering wasn't a paid 3rd party add-on???? it's been in Sonar for aeons. What other items have disappeared? I don't want to just stumble across this sort of bad news. We should at least be told now what we can expect to have gone missing.
NOEL!! HELP!!
Why is Pow-r a major issue? Most users these days who care about dithering have some sort of mastering plugin at the end of the chain that has way more powerful dithering choices. The Pow-R licence couldn't transfer over to a free software model so we had to remove it. Nothing else was removed besides third party plugins whose licences wouldn't transfer to BandLab.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/05 23:55:50
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☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/06 00:07:33
Bassman002
Hi there:)
Can't install it:
>>A Java Script Error ocurred in the main process
>>no such file or directory, open
>>A:\OneDrive\dokumente\downloads\Cakewalk.exe
This directory doesn't exist, I have my download dir at a different drive. but there's no cakewalk.exe, can't find it!
Any help??
Thanks;)
Bassman.
Do you have OneDrive set up as your default downloads folder? This is likely a virtual drive and may not be compatible. Maybe disable OneDrive and try again?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 00:20:07
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craigr68
I rely on CWAF heavily to clean up my project files. I just noticed that CWAF is displaying this message on any previous project that I saved with the new CbB:
The following files were either unreadable by CWAF, or written by a newer version of SONAR than CWAF expects.
Unless they were created by a different application, or known to be compatible, you should restore them from a backup copy before proceeding with any file operations.
In the case of newer files, please verify that you have the latest version of CWAF from http://www.cakewalk.com
CORRUPT or FUTURE Project file versions can cause false ORPHAN wave indications Please USE CARE!
Then it lists the only two .cwp files that I recently saved with CbB
If i remeber correctly, there,s a ini for it wher you need to change the version number. As there have been no changes in file format, all will be well...
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 00:21:10
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☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/06 02:19:46
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Regarding the loss of the Powr-N dither options, I didn't even notice that until someone pointed it out to me. The reason: I haven't used SONAR for dithering in many years. My primary mastering limiters are Pro-L and Ozone, both of which offer their own dither options. As do most of the more popular limiters, e.g. Elephant and L2.
This ^ :)
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 00:23:49
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MarianoGF
I guess the DAW will always be for free (with the basic plugins) and that's great. Something like BandLab gives you the "Artist" version for free. What you will have to pay for is every advanced plugin, instrument or pack you want to become "Professional" or "Platinum". That is what I guess, maybe I'm wrong.
Except the artist version didn't have: all the prochannel modules in it that the free version of CbB has, Vocal Sync, and Surround Mixing which CbB does. But you're right that things like this will be for purchase https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/By-Category/ProChannel-Moduleshttps://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Rapture
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 00:26:12
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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DeBro
I upgraded from Sonar Professional and opened a few existing projects and all played flawlessly. I then proceeded to master within a mix and when it came time to export to 16bit wav, I noticed there was no Pow-r Dithering. Oh well, I hope it can be a paid add-on sometime in the future.
Wow, good spot. This is a MAJOR issue. I'm going back to old Platinum until that's sorted. I don't understand; surely Pow-r Dithering wasn't a paid 3rd party add-on???? it's been in Sonar for aeons. What other items have disappeared? I don't want to just stumble across this sort of bad news. We should at least be told now what we can expect to have gone missing.
NOEL!! HELP!!
Why is Pow-r a major issue? Most users these days who care about dithering have some sort of mastering plugin at the end of the chain that has way more powerful dithering choices. The Pow-R licence couldn't transfer over to a free software model so we had to remove it. Nothing else was removed besides third party plugins whose licences wouldn't transfer to BandLab.
True, but some of us don't. I use the old Sony CDArchitect for my assemby and burning, but my song files are already dithered. I rarely do any processing there as I prefer to dither during mastering in Sonar. The Powr algorhythms sound "better" to me than anything in the Sony program... So for now. I will record in Cakewalk and master in Sonar, then final assemby/burn from CDArchect I guess...
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 00:33:33
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2018/04/06 09:08:17
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Why is Pow-r a major issue? Most users these days who care about dithering have some sort of mastering plugin at the end of the chain that has way more powerful dithering choices. The Pow-R licence couldn't transfer over to a free software model so we had to remove it. Nothing else was removed besides third party plugins whose licences wouldn't transfer to BandLab. You were not asked to give a free stub. Give us a normal running program, a paid program. And let it be compatible with the previous ones. Otherwise, you simply killed the sonar with your wrong policy. This is exactly what I feared: the company's wrong policy.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 00:43:24
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If you want to make a program for fools, then only fools will use it. (Not my words)
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 00:45:57
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☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/06 00:51:14
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BTW, all the complaining, fear-mongering, and paranoia is annoying. Good thing I'm not a developer or owner otherwise I'd think "Wow, these people are unappreciative" and scrap the whole thing and deal with the losses.
Agreed! And I will second the 'unappreciative' group to that list. Everything that we are getting for free is from a team that was under no obligation whatsoever. Sheesh!!!
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 01:05:36
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He who is not busy being born is busy dying. - Bob Dylan
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 01:05:39
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getfr
You simply killed the sonar with your wrong policy.
This is exactly what I feared: the company's wrong policy.
Just watch how Cakewalk's customer base grow in the coming years and you'll see how 'wrong' the policy really is. getfr
If you want to make a program for fools, then only fools will use it. (Not my words)
Because only fools use Pro-L, Ozone, Elephant and L2? But you could ask that the new paid for version come with dithering, which Bandlab will be giving for free to previous Platinum customers with their old Cakewalk account linked up to their new Bandlab account. Sigh.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 01:05:49
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☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/06 02:18:48
We must all diff our caps to this young innovative team of entrepreneurs who see the multiple value in cakewalk. This is interesting to participate in and yes, whiners and nihilists should go meta on themselves and **** up for a few months. Proper bug issues and suggestions are always appreciated.
Alan
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 01:08:18
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Opened my first piece, which was from 8.5 Studio, and it opened perfectly, pulling in everything for a full orchestra piece.
You mean that project was done in Sonar 8.5 Studio and it worked perfectly in the new Cakewalk?
So is it so backwards compatible?
Also BandLab should publish the exact, detailed list of features and VST/VSTi included.
Yes, at least as far back as 8.5.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 01:26:20
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Hey guys,
My music production computer does not have an internet connection. Is there any way to get this program up and running on that machine without one?
Thanks,
Steeps
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 01:51:18
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☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/06 02:18:29
I come from Sonar X2 & X3 Producer. The fact that Meng & Bandlab offered this to us for free is UNBELIEVABLY AWESOME !!!! Thank You So Much!!! That was very kind!!!!
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 02:03:41
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☄ Helpfulby texasaurus rex 2018/04/06 07:03:36
Steeps
Hey guys,
My music production computer does not have an internet connection. Is there any way to get this program up and running on that machine without one?
Thanks,
Steeps
Sign up for wireless internet for a month or ask a friend to bring his around to you. Meng said it won't expire, so you should only temporarily need internet for the install, however Meng said they will have a steady stream of updates in the future so you might want to consider getting a wireless internet plan. There are ways of streaming internet from your phone to your pc. If you'd like internet on your phone just get a good plan, bring your phone to your studio and hook them up together.
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getfr
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 02:16:25
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Daibhidh
Just watch how Cakewalk's customer base grow in the coming years
and you'll see how 'wrong' the policy really is.
Because only fools use Pro-L, Ozone, Elephant and L2?
But you could ask that the new paid for version come with dithering,
which Bandlab will be giving for free to previous Platinum customers
with their old Cakewalk account linked up to their new Bandlab account.
Sigh.
I said exactly what I wanted to say. Do not attribute to me anything extra, please. Thank you for your opinion.
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Steeps
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 02:18:35
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Daibhidh
Sign up for wireless internet for a month or ask a friend to bring his around to you. Meng said it won't expire, so you should only temporarily need internet for the install, however Meng said they will have a steady stream of updates in the future so you might want to consider getting a wireless internet plan. There are ways of streaming internet from your phone to your pc.
If you'd like internet on your phone just get a good plan, bring your phone to your studio and hook them up together.
Thanks for the reply. I have wireless internet at home, but I don't have a wireless modem on my music production computer and would rather avoid having to buy one just for this. I have internet on my phone but not sure how I would connect that to my computer, I'll have to look into that.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 02:22:03
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brandonc
I come from Sonar X2 & X3 Producer. The fact that Meng & Bandlab offered this to us for free is UNBELIEVABLY AWESOME !!!! Thank You So Much!!! That was very kind!!!!
While you don't have to, if you want to support the Bandlab company, you could become a backer and give a tip. I suggest going for the mug, if I had the money, I'd totally get the black Cakewalk mug. Long live Cakewalk!
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 02:29:47
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Steeps
I don't have a wireless modem on my music production computer and would rather avoid having to buy one just for this. I have internet on my phone but not sure how I would connect that to my computer, I'll have to look into that. Here's two YouTube videos on how to do it: https://youtu.be/hDxQSedfoKM?t=28shttps://youtu.be/wrvIYck5qtQ
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 02:55:56
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Mannymac
Hi team,
All worked flawlessly, well done to Bandlab!
Personally I'm very happy we got rid of the bloatware, which has always annoyed me about Sonar.
I know that the Command Center tried to help with this but I still felt like too much content was thrown at us.
I want a slick easy to use straightforward DAW, that is it.
However, my entire software is no English, would love to be able to change it back to German.
Can anybody help me with this?
Please tell us all what you consider bloatware that you got and wish you had not. Please.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 02:59:28
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igiwigi
Hi
My view Is you get nothing for free and I am a little confused here.
There has got to be a payment somewhere down the line.
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Surely only previous owners of Sonar can download this product and not open to all.
I keep hearing the word free and there has got to be a catch somewhere.TELL ME!!! .
I am not doubting Bandlabs Intentions, but I need some clarity and steps to take before being happy.
All the Best
John
Wrong. It is free. I sent the information and links to my St. Louis Musicians Meetup Group and one of them that I am aware of installed it and he's very happy. Not a former Cakewalk person. He is also already playing around on the BandLab site and is giving me some feedback.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 03:08:58
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018]
2018/04/06 03:21:49
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