Not if they came from iTunes.

For your information there is iTunes Store and the iTunes Jukebox. again most of the music in peoples' iTunes Collection <-- note I did not say "Music in The iTunes Store" ...get it? no really do you get it??

People rip from CD (no DRM) into iTunes, or import MP3 (no DRM) so that the majority of the music in the iTunes Jukebox and/on iPods right now.... ...get it? no really do you get it??

...get it? no really do you get it??


...get it? no really do you get it??

wtf

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TOSS THAT JUNK INTO THE OFF-TOPIC BIN ALREADY?

thanks

ORIGINAL: stevec

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TOSS THAT JUNK INTO THE OFF-TOPIC BIN ALREADY?

It's not nice to call him junk...

ORIGINAL: bigweb

Axe will block you if you disagree with him.
There is no point debating anything with him
at all..

As said before he is this forums most successful
troll and I am amazed that the mods haven't banned him
by now....

Are there actually any mods on this forum?

You might want to step back and evaluate your behavior and then compare it to the rules of conduct to see who is pushing the envelope here.

Entering someone's thread and issuing personal attacks is not proper, mature or responsible behavior. Just think that over before going too far or issuing something you wish you could take back. Note IP's are logged and there is not as much anonymity as people lead themselves to believe. You are just as liable for you statements here as you would be in any public forum.

We have all have seen many of public apology on public forums by people that have gone too far. Making a public statement as part of a settlement or agreement to keep from being booted.

Good moderation would indeed remove users that cannot control their behavior in the forums.

As I have said, if you do not like the content of a thread, be an adult and move on.

I think all the hardware threads should be moved to the "Gear Forum" but they're not and litter this forum. I simply ignore them and move on as it's easier for everyone.



AXE

ORIGINAL: D.Triny


For your information there is iTunes Store and the iTunes Jukebox. again most of the music in peoples' iTunes Collection <-- note I did not say "Music in The iTunes Store" ...get it? no really do you get it??

People rip from CD (no DRM) into iTunes, or import MP3 (no DRM) so that the majority of the music in the iTunes Jukebox and/on iPods right now.... ...get it? no really do you get it??

...get it? no really do you get it??


...get it? no really do you get it??

wtf

I was only refering to what Apple iTunes offers for sale, which is protected by DRM. The fact that people add content from other sources into iTunes Jukebox is irrelevant. Jobs is still selling DRM protected content period.

I was only refering to what Apple iTunes offers for sale, which is protected by DRM. The fact that people add content from other sources into iTunes Jukebox is irrelevant. Jobs is still selling DRM protected content period.

The topic is about EMI dropping DRM, Steve is using the other content in the iTunes to help convince labels to drop DRM. Which makes it very relevant, and it makes your posts on the subject basic hateration. "Period".

D Triny

Hateration is not a word, it is a rather terrible mangling of the English langauge, please don't converse like some Pentagon flunky with a caffiene overdose .

Jobs wrote a mission statment, EMi took him up on it, I appluad EMI (although the fact they are on the brink of recievership makes me wonder if this is a last ditch attempt), and I appluad Jobs for writing his statement.

However microsoft are at exactly the same mercy of the music and video industries, okay they did not come out and say it in public, but I am sure they would rather not have DRM, but if having it means they can offer HD, then they will do it. Ther'e business model is increasingly bing built around the Home Station business model.

Ie you can now build a windows machine that acts as you Sky receiver and play it back in HD, it will play back your movies both DVD and HD, and it will play back your music, this can be wifi'd to different speakers through the house. Its pretty powerful what you can do now.

Seeing as this business model is based on the continued patronization of Microsoft by the Video/Music industry, i am not surprised they have built in DRM.


G

Utimately as the article above says, we should not be attacking Apple or Microsoft, but the Film and Record companies for enforcing the content stuff.

Microsoft are basically reacting to a set of constrictions placed on them, and trying to mitigate them so that the impact to there customers and therefore there business is minimized.

G

Hateration is not a word, it is a rather terrible mangling of the English langauge, please don't converse like some Pentagon flunky with a caffiene overdose .

Do you really want to get into how "words" find their way into language? Also, if you're going to try nail someone on the use of language please be sure to carefully check your spelling when doing so. I'm not even going to point out the word that you butchered.

Jobs wrote a mission statment, EMi took him up on it, I appluad EMI (although the fact they are on the brink of recievership makes me wonder if this is a last ditch attempt), and I appluad Jobs for writing his statement.

yeah I agree with this.

While I totally accept people should be free to express there opinion here, I have to question his motivations and his impact on this forum.

From my perspective his motivation is to see SONAR ported to MAC OSX. Which is a desire I share....and if the anti-mac, anti-osx, anti-steve jobs "hateration" on this forum were reduced by fifty percent I'm sure there would much less bickering to worry about.

Wow, how did this turn into a Mac vs PC thread?

Is it just something that randomly happens to unlucky threads? Like: "Hey, I've found a clip of Jimmy Page playing Dazed and Confused in the late 60's" "yeah, that's cos Macs are better than PCs".

ORIGINAL: Alndln

ORIGINAL: D.Triny


The topic is about EMI dropping DRM

Right, but somehow Apple seems to be taking the credit.

Steve is using the other content in the iTunes to help convince labels to drop DRM.

With the exception of Independant artists on iTunes and iMovies. Bravo. Do as I say, but not as I do.

it makes your posts on the subject basic hateration. "Period".

I don't hate Apple, but I don't particularly like them any more than Microsoft. I just happen to see and point out contradictions and back it up with links. "period".

Did you actually read Steve Job's open letter asking for the drop of DRM?

It's pretty clear in that message what Steve Job's feelings are on the matter and it was a pretty gutsy move. It has paid off initially but I am not sure how consumers will react to the additional cost of the higher quality media. At least you now have the choice of what you can purchase rather than having it dictated to you. That's a good thing right?

Like I said Apple is making all the right moves and it is evident by the press coverage. It may not be a bad idea to have a little Apple stock right now which is another indicator of "getting it right".

AXE

ORIGINAL: axe



Did you actually read Steve Job's open letter asking for the drop of DRM?

Yes, nice speech. Did you notice that DRM remains with Apples independant artists and iMovies? Apparently you choose to ignore this.

Rest assured my friend, if the DRM benefits far outweighed the costs, Mr. Jobs' manifesto would have explained how DRM protects artists from content thieves and how proud and eager Apple was to embrace such a system.

well, ok yeah. If the benefits "outweighed the costs"? duh? so it sounds like you are accusing him of being rational. lawdy.

The problem I have is that the 'manifesto' is often misrepresented as Steve Jobs' leading a 'victory for the people' and so forth when in reality it is just clever marketing.

or both? It's not a bad idea to try to hone in on what people really need or want to strike a good balance between customer satisfaction and company finances. Microsoft has what 40 billion in the bank?, there is no doubt that they will become a force in the digital media space, even if they have to buy it. Steve and Apple have to stay on their toes.