Wnat to know a few fallacies about apple?

ORIGINAL: bigweb

I'm not anti Apple.
I'm anti stupidity.
I'm anti ignorance.
I'm anti troll.
I'm anti misinformation.

Macs can now run windows, so why bother?

ORIGINAL: SvenArne

ORIGINAL: axe

...but it only takes a few trolls to derail a thread....

OMG, do you even know what a troll is? It's basically someone who enters a forum with no intention other than stirring the anthill! Much like yourself!

Sven

The point I am trying to make is that people present him with arguments, or counter arguments, and he responds with meaningless statements as per above

ORIGINAL: D.Triny

The point I am trying to make is that people present him with arguments, or counter arguments, and he responds with meaningless statements as per above

part of the problem is that many of the counter-responses have included unreasonable and sometimes nonsensical elements and since some of the posters feel they have the majority "macs suck" opinion they get careless in the things they say.

There is just too much evidence of Apple's influence out there for people to try to categorically deny it's significance...those who try to do so appear to be the most frustrated IMO.

Just accept that Apple/OSX is a valid option along with Windows and the stress will go away.

and I don't think anyone else here is arguing that either

ORIGINAL: D.Triny

Truely insane which prooves that alot of Mac owners have more cents than sense.

along with all the fools who buy laptops eh? hope you don't have one

ORIGINAL: axe

Historically, the introduction of new ideas has always been met with harsh criticism and even extreme violence by those that are uncomfortable with change. In the end, the change still occurred.

ORIGINAL: axe

Really and your post is a public service announcement

What was the purpose of your post? It adds nothing, there is no intelligence in it? It can only be characterized as stirring the pot as you could have just gone but that's not your style now is it.

jb
Making light of the situation now that I've taken you to task
on some of the points you've raised is not the best way to
gain credibility on this forum.
You came across all serious when you were telling me what I could
or could not do ...now you talk of multiple personalities and other nonsense

Keep it up man if you want every one here to see what an idiot you are......

Remember it was you who attacked my credibility in the 1st place....

ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle

My answer was, no, we are not to 'take him seriously' as axe's comments often seem very much tongue in cheek but, if you really do take this seriously, so what? What's wrong with rolling your own being an important part of your life? It's too comical, too over-the-top to be a real insult, there's simply nothing to it unless you've checked your sense of humor at the door and, in that case, axe will continue to mock you.

it wasn't the comment about 'rolling my own' that irked me, it was

Original: axe
To be clear, I mean he brings disgrace on the Wales scene. You have to spell it out for some.

the comment about building my own just amused me.

ORIGINAL: inmazevo

Over-modded boards ARE bad, and I remember Steiny's very well.

However, there are several threads currently on Mac vs. PC, all pushed through by the same person/people...
There have been many attempts in other threads, on completely different topics, to take them to Mac vs. PC as well... and some successfully, also by the same person.
The same individual has also made comments about how long he's going to be here, and how many interesting discussions he plans to start.

I only saw 3 threads including this one and none of these are anywhere near as inflammatory as ones we used to see on a daily basis. I think it's a tribute to how well Sonar works for most of us that we have time to argue over such nonsense. That and judging by the low traffic lately I'd say the videos are doing their job and we no longer see so many posts from clueless users trying to use the latest features. But, it seems to me that this thread started off in a fairly benign way and that axe did not initiate the flaming so i think laying all the blame on him is unfair.

This IS getting particularly inappropriate and disrespectful.
People can say, just ignore it, but the same individual is now trying to move multiple other discussions to the same end, and has also moved this tactic to the P5 forum as well...
It's hard to just ignore 6 or 7 of them, and the stated plan is clearly to do more in the future.

I'm not sure what the problem is, or why there is this need to make this entire forum discuss this one topic, but its escalating, and causing arguments, and stirring everybody up...

But it takes two to tango and if axe is as ridiculous as you seem to think why bother responding?

I hate the Steiny forum as well, and agree that it's clearly over-policed, which is actually one of the many reasons I don't buy Steinberg software anymore.
However, this would NEVER go on this long over there.
Nor on many other forums but that's why they're not as good as this one.

It was too far the other direction, but for the first time in my Cakewalk forum life, I have to imagine that having ONE section of REQUIRED on-topic discussion of registered users only, where off-topic threads are closed, and people who cross the line are kicked back to the other "public" sections of the forum is a very good thing.

In fact, I think that's my next feature request.

Sad, but true.
If people can't police themselves and show more restraint... I'm all for a "forced respect" section.
Not the whole forum... just a little of it.

But the inability to 'police' oneself is a problem for more posters than just axe, no?

Never thought I'd say that, but I'm a rather firm believer that police are only unnecessary when people behave respectfully. Flip it around and you start getting anarchy, which on product forums gets in the way of things.
This is, after all, a Cakewalk forum... not a general computer audio forum. There are plenty of those to go to should one feel the need to go over the top with one subject.

Perhaps but that doesn't mean there haven't been and will continue to be plenty of threads about 'general computer audio.' I, for one, think the forum works pretty well. There's plenty of bs threads that, rather than contribute to the noise, I simply don't read. I don't see the need to wall them off.

Take care,
jb
- zevo

ORIGINAL: stevec

The same individual has also made comments about how long he's going to be here, and how many interesting discussions he plans to start.

IMHO, this says a lot regarding Axe's intent. Sure it's an open forum, and sure there are too many OT threads to count. But it seems that one individual has made it his goal to do nothing but make things "interesting"...and here is yet another example. Whether it started off benign is open to interpretation, but where it's ended is in another never-ending debate. I really do think it would be best if he were ignored altogether, but let's face is - he has a knack for getting responses.