Mod Bod
 
How many times have I had a specific beat in my head, gone off on a quest to find a beat to match and after a half dozen libraries give up and change my vision to match whatever beat I could find.
 

Yes! Exactly!
 
I have a song that I want it to go a certain way. It's almost a jazzy type feel I want, but with a definite pop rock beat. I have searched and searched, and I have recorded at least 4 different versions of this song, and they are still not what I want. Those versions are not my original song (that I still think is the best version). I just have no drum track with the feel I want to play it to. Everything I have come up with has been good, some versions better than the others, but all are compromises.
 
With the EZD2 I think I might be able to get what has been so elusive to me.
 
I'm in. I'd jump in even if there were no extra drum sounds given away. I would take it just on the program alone.
 
And I can see why Modbod was saying that he wouldn't go back to the old way (ezd) anymore! And I won't have a problem if EZD1 and EZD2 don't co-exist together. Nope, no problem with that at all!

Cheers, Mod. Keep up the good work.

I may not be the only convert after all!

Take the red pill, cclarry.  

We disagree on Addictive Drums.  The interface is nice but for the life of me, I can't get into the way the drums sound.  I installed it on my old computer to check it out and see if it would be cool to use but I don't have any interest in installing on my new machine.   But if I had to choose AD or Session Drummer as a SONAR X3 user, AD wins.

clintmartin
I'm 8 minutes in and know that I'm buying this!

clintmartin
Extremely impressive video! $99 doesn't seem to bad at all.

+$99

Dave,
 
I imagine that I could use my Alesis E-Kit on a created song to add accents etc. inside EZD 2 in standalone?
 
I'm not a solid drummer by any stretch but adding fills and accents are somewhat in my wheelhouse on my e-kit. 

mixmkr
I think it's nice.. owning both EZD and Superior2.  However, as easy as EZD is, Superior isn't like it's opening a 100 page book to use it.  Superior is MUCH more superior and I'd really like to see an upgrade of this magnitude, done to Superior.  This just kinda got EZD closer...especially with being able to tune the drums.  Seems many don't feel that aspect is that important.
 
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In a recent project, I tuned the UDU using EZD2 so that it was in the same key of the song.  I tuned it to the 5th of the scale and it fits in nicely with what I am playing on bass.  I've tuned cymbals as well.  Down tuning them to the point of where they are more like a ghostly gong.  Of course, in the past you had to do that in Superior 2.

I do most all my paid commercial broadcast (I.e. Advertising) projects using what works best/quickest. And that generally means EZD on about 75%. On my own or others musical producer jobs I go into more detail to make sure I'm definitely using what I deem best. And I'm very finicky. And I own most all of the top drum emulators. That said I bet 50% of my projects end up using EZD. Because it is very good, the EZXs cover a range of genres and I love working with program. I have SD2 as well and have even been forcing myself to use and learn it. And it is very, very good. But I still prefer EZD as it too is very, very good and I am one lazy assed sum****. YMMV.

With Superior .... just a quick list ....in no order...but you get attack/decay adjustments on the drums...(and the tuning which EZD2 now has) and a bunch of built in FX in the mixer section...nothing special but nice.  I think the biggest thing is the sound of the drums are better, imo and *if* you like "room sound"... you get piles of that, that you can add zero ...to as much as you want.  IOW, if you want to do the Led Zep monster kit in the hallway, you can approximate, where in EZD, I'm not sure you could replicate.  I think the MIDI grooves are a little more "tasty" overall.  That's hard to explain, but maybe like a better drummer, but playing still contained... HH stuff and side stick seems a little more "adult" for a lack of words.  Plus some extra mics, here and there, that you can blend to taste and the mixer...although waaaaay too many channels for the average use... now has busses and such that let you work inside the program, should you not want to do that in Sonar.  Nice presets too from Toontrack, from the full kits, to individual drum, HH sounds, etc
 
However..IMO...if you like the sound of drums recorded in a nice big, wooden wall'd, famous studio... you'll love the NY vol 1,2 and now 3...which to me are a couple notches above the kits EZD has.  Forget the reverb plugs...you won't need them unless you're doing something really wild.

oh... another big feature, is that you can layer drums... IOW stack several snares, kicks...whatever... to one MIDI note.  All within the program, versus another MIDI track in Sonar.   It's called the Xdrum feature...  not to mention having the bleed of one "studio" put on another kit recorded somewhere else.  Stuff like that, I don't really do, as room sound is room sound to me... but I do like the X drum feature.  A bit clunky to initiate, but you can come up with some nice sounds... just like you might layer synth sounds.
 

That there's a cup of kool-aid you really don't need to drink Mod, ol pal.

mixmkr
With Superior .... just a quick list ....in no order...but you get attack/decay adjustments on the drums...(and the tuning which EZD2 now has) and a bunch of built in FX in the mixer section...nothing special but nice.  I think the biggest thing is the sound of the drums are better, imo and *if* you like "room sound"... you get piles of that, that you can add zero ...to as much as you want.  IOW, if you want to do the Led Zep monster kit in the hallway, you can approximate, where in EZD, I'm not sure you could replicate.  I think the MIDI grooves are a little more "tasty" overall.  That's hard to explain, but maybe like a better drummer, but playing still contained... HH stuff and side stick seems a little more "adult" for a lack of words.  Plus some extra mics, here and there, that you can blend to taste and the mixer...although waaaaay too many channels for the average use... now has busses and such that let you work inside the program, should you not want to do that in Sonar.  Nice presets too from Toontrack, from the full kits, to individual drum, HH sounds, etc
 
However..IMO...if you like the sound of drums recorded in a nice big, wooden wall'd, famous studio... you'll love the NY vol 1,2 and now 3...which to me are a couple notches above the kits EZD has.  Forget the reverb plugs...you won't need them unless you're doing something really wild.

Well I can see where having both would be best. (Thanks for the info) I will upgrade to EZD2, but I will be surprised if the added features and work flow are not added to SD3 at some point in the near future. It just doesn't make sense to allow yourself to get to far behind, when people will gladly pay for you to keep up.

clintmartin
 
Well I can see where having both would be best. (Thanks for the info) I will upgrade to EZD2, but I will be surprised if the added features and work flow are not added to SD3 at some point in the near future. It just doesn't make sense to allow yourself to get to far behind, when people will gladly pay for you to keep up.

I have to say...this is on par (almost) with SepticTank..and everyone is oo-ing and ah-ing...AGAIN.

8 years for a version update is ludicrous...

It's a great product, I've had it since the beginning, and at least it was somewhat updated...1.33 currently...
that's not a FAR leap in 8 years, it didn't even make it to 1.5,  but at least they went 64 bit a while ago...and they didn't skimp on the on add packs...but, then again, so was ST...at least Toontrack didn't make empty promises...

But I guess that's what GAS does...people don't seem to care about how companies treat them...
or what the company does...all they seem to care about is GAS and what they can spend their next
dollar on...sorry to be the cynic here...but someone has to see the forest for the trees...

Such is life!

Cclarry, take the Hateraide from your lips and pour it down the sink, Bro.  
 
Eight years and they released Superior 2, EZkeys and 4 libraries, EZmix and two dozen preset packs, 28 (or so) drum libraries, EZplayer, Beatstation, Drumtracker (OK, that one didn't seem to pan out so well) and a bunch of midi libraries as well - not to mention being the first 64 bit drum samplers to hit the market.

Dude, do you have an inkling of how much work is involved in these products?

{tongueInCheek}
According to twaddle there is no point in any other drompler. BFD/ECO/3 does it all.
{/tongueInCheek}
 
 
I just could not wrap my head around BFD2 or Eco (own them both) to make them my go to drompler. AD is fairly easy to and I've owned it for several years now. I wish I could really get into Jamstix3 since I own that too. I like Slate's sounds as well as all my NI Abbey Road kits (own them all)......
 
But again, as a hobbyist I find EZDrummer my go to while constructing a song and now EZD2 looks to be a step up for my purposes.
 
Like Dave says, after all is said and done I can always route the MIDI in SD2 (and one day SD3 I'll presume) when I want more control.
 
All in all I have used all my dropmlers in songs except Eco and Jamstix(2 or 3).