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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 18:50:09 (permalink)
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maybe?
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 18:51:55 (permalink)
Sig doesn't seem to work(mine anyway), checked or not, and you can't see to who you replying  to.
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 19:06:01 (permalink)
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 19:28:35 (permalink)
When I reply and hit 'post message' I'd like to be directed back to the top of the forum like it used to work, instead of staying on the same page.  I have that option clicked in my preferences, but it's not working. 

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 19:33:04 (permalink)
Hey Willy,

You've done a great job so far on installing the new forum software upgrade. Very nice.

I have the theme set to 'Cakewalk', much better layout, such as I like the thread starter column, padding is nice and compact, page width is  good :-)

I have a suggestion; change the orange category headers to the same color as the links above (Products, Store, News, etc) so it blends in better.
post edited by SongCraft - 2009/07/23 19:35:35

 
 
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 19:46:29 (permalink)
Problem:
1) No matter how wide one makes a page, there's still a scroll bar across the bottom of the web page.
2) Incomplete inclusion of text in emailed notices - i.e. when an email notification of a post is received the additional text entered by the responder goes missing.

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 20:21:36 (permalink)
I suppose it's not a real big deal, but I preferred having the list of who's online at the top. 

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 20:23:12 (permalink)
Maybe I am missing it, but I can't figure out how to filter posts to show only threads that I have contributed to. Very useful in cutting through the new threads to see if followup is needed on a prior post. I have been doing this by forum search with a blank search field by author me, but that is way tedious.

On the plus side it is very easy to click on a post number and get a url that will link directly to that particular post (not the top post of the thread). This is very useful to include a link to an answer to a new question in an old thread, it can also be used as a kludge to replace in reply to, without having to quote the post you are replying to.
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 21:29:37 (permalink)
Sad, sad, sad...

I have several...dozens...of emails to myself in a special Outlook folder with urls to specific threads I want to reference periodically.

Those urls (if that's the right 'word') no longer work.  :-( 

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 22:10:29 (permalink)
OK, I've been tasered, wire-cuffed and moved to the detention center.  Hidy ya'll!  How's your momma an them?  Anywhoo, my "unruly-out-of-line-and-apparently-to-somebody-totally-off-topic-as-regards-Sonar-although-I-cain't-see-how-as-it's-about-nothin-but-Sonar-in-that-this-here-IS-the-Sonar-forum-ain't-it?" suggestion is why not have a simple "hide", "unhide" stickys button.  I mean now, with the new look an all, they are a forum unto themselves.  Or are they?

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 23:44:25 (permalink)
I just noticed that when you quote a post the quote does not say who is being quoted.
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/23 23:57:09 (permalink)
I just noticed that when you quote a post the quote does not say who is being quoted.


Your right
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 00:36:31 (permalink)
2) when a page loads in the thread, it loses the focus.  I have to click somewhere in the browser window (IE7 and not likely to change!) in order to get the scroll wheel to work.  I always hit the scroll wheel as soon as the post page loads, but now I have to click in the post somewhere BEFORE I do that.

I'm definitely not seeing this one at all, tried IE7 and IE8.
not sure why - but it does it to me every time. 

 
Same problem here using IE7.

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Re:The Text part of the "insert link" doesn't work... 2009/07/24 02:00:50 (permalink)


The GUI is too wide... I'm constantly scrolling back and fourth... 

I changed the minimum threshold for this so you should be in better shape now.

Thanks for the feedback.


I changed the minimum threshold for this so you should be in better shape now. Thanks for the feedback.



I think it needs one more tweak. It is still too wide for my screen - maybe a 1/2". ???

I like the fresh look and will get used to it in time. I do not like scrolling back and forth though. I'm using firefox.




 
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 02:40:18 (permalink)
zungle

I just noticed that when you quote a post the quote does not say who is being quoted.


Your right


This has been mentioned a few times, and is my biggest gripe with the new format at this point (see post #17, etc.).

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 06:43:24 (permalink)
Mamabear

Sad, sad, sad...

I have several...dozens...of emails to myself in a special Outlook folder with urls to specific threads I want to reference periodically.

Those urls (if that's the right 'word') no longer work.  :-(


Janet:
I did some comparisons between the two different url's and what I found was the following change:
The old url: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.asp?m=1770770
The new url: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1778076
Other than the number at the end, which indicates the thread number, the only obvious change I can see is the asp part changed to ashx. Now I'm not savvy enough to say what this all means - maybe someone like bitflipper or Willy can say - but I don't think it's something that can be changed with the new software.

Edit for additional info - if you change the above mentioned asp to ashx it will take you to the thread you want - a royal pain in the rump if you ask me.
post edited by jackn2mpu - 2009/07/24 06:45:43

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 07:59:48 (permalink)
it crashed out in firefox.. well got 2 dialog boxes up.. anyone else? client windows

the gap in the sigs is an odd one, sometimes it posts with them.. sometimes without.

oh and them spammers are back.. far less, but still..
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 09:37:04 (permalink)
Thank you Jack!  I'll try that.  I suppose from now on it would be better to just copy and paste the info I need, then I won't lose it.

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 11:47:25 (permalink)
I was one of the users that thought the old forum was very nice.

I was another one. The old Cakewalk forum was my favorite in terms of usability.

Most of my problems with this new forum have been mentioned already. The very first thing I missed was the "in reply to" feature. That is vital for good communication here.

On the list of threads, the link to "go to first unread message" is now on the right after the thread title. Previously, it was on the left. That made it simple to just run the mouse down the list simply in a vertical line, and middle-click (in firefox) to open the threads in new tabs right at the spot I left off.  Now I have to do horizontal mouse movement to get to that link. It's one of those things that goes to the heart of having a forum that is a breeze to use, and a forum that just wears you down with little minor annoyances. All the little extra mouse moving and annoyances adds up.

As has been mentioned: not being able to move the posting window outside of the browser. The posting window seems like it isn't even a proper browser window--oftentimes when posting I'll open a new tab in the posting window to go to google and look something up. Can't do that anymore.

Why on earth, if I'm using XP, does the posting window try to do a Vista/Aero thing? I shudder to think of the computing resources being wasted on that. It's not just the default theme that does this, the Cakewalk theme suffers the same issue. Why does the forum software feel the need to "look different".

As I said on the "plug-in manager" thread: A beautiful UI is vitally important. But if the beautiful UI comes at the expense of lowered usability (including speed) then it is worthless.
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 11:55:24 (permalink)
2) when a page loads in the thread, it loses the focus. I have to click somewhere in the browser window (IE7 and not likely to change!) in order to get the scroll wheel to work. I always hit the scroll wheel as soon as the post page loads, but now I have to click in the post somewhere BEFORE I do that.
 
 I'm definitely not seeing this one at all, tried IE7 and IE8.

 
Sorry Willy the loss of focus happening here two different PC's both running IE 8

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 12:05:24 (permalink)
 
Scroll wheel working fine now, I don't need to click in a thread.
 
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 12:44:07 (permalink)
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Hey Willy,

You've done a great job so far on installing the new forum software upgrade. Very nice.

I have the theme set to 'Cakewalk', much better layout, such as I like the thread starter column, padding is nice and compact, page width is  good :-)

I have a suggestion; change the orange category headers to the same color as the links above (Products, Store, News, etc) so it blends in better.


Having said that I will admit that this ASPlayground forum software is not the best! IMHO the most popular choice is PhpBB and it has seen greater improvements to prevent spam by having options question/answer options on all new registrations on the negative side it's also the biggest target for hackers which means it's vital to keep the software updated and install security patches regularly, the next popular is vBulletin but it's the most difficult to customize and most often you'll see sites use the default theme (look), the another popular choice is Invision Power Boards (IPB) forum software! Those are the three most popular choices but the problem is that this ASPlayground software may not be compatible for 'conversion' to other software forum  meaning that if Cakewalk had changed to a completely different software forum such as PhpBB, vBulletin or IPB then we would all have to start all over again including having to re-register on the forum. :-( So I guess we're stuck with what we've got (ASP), the compromise would be to turn this current forum into an archive and start fresh with another much better forum software software. IMHO vBulletin and IPB are probably the best choice followed closely by PhpBB, SMF, and MyBB , all are probably better than what we are using now (ASPlayground) but like most forum software each has their pro's and con's therefor it's a matter of what features are most important such as easy install/config, security, anti-spam options and user features that actually works well.

 
 
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 13:24:10 (permalink)
Hi Willy-

When I forward a post now all I get in the message is:

#body#

This used to work fine, I'd get the whole text of the message.

Thanks-

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 14:20:49 (permalink)
BTW Willy, some of the Links at the bottom of the page are not working, some that I found are "Audio and Midi Interfaces" under Record, "Windows Vista for Musicians" under Learn, "Pyro Audio Creator" under Products, "Audio Mixing" under Produce. Wow, hate to see you guys having to fight these fires, but I guess that's Life in the Digital Age

And a rather small one, in the Quick Reply, if I click a smiley at the end of my post, it puts the smiley at the beginning, waddup widdat?   (I've been dragging them over)
 
Edit: BTW2, I like having some colour here now.
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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 14:56:43 (permalink)
I have to ditto Beagle's observations. I use my work computer - the network that it's attached to has a fast dedicated line, but the workstations are aging. Most of us are still stuck with IE6, and we won't be upgrading our machines in the near future. The average loading time that I've run into when opening a thread is 30 seconds, then I have to click on an open space on a posting to get it focused so I can use my scroll wheel. Flipping thru the threads has just become a major chore. Maybe I can finagle longer lunch breaks to compensate.

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 14:58:58 (permalink)
Willy, I'm glad I'm not in your shoes with all of us whining.  :-)

But, one more thing...

Now when I get emails to subscriptions, I'm getting absolutely nothing in the email. 

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 15:02:41 (permalink)
Now when I get emails to subscriptions, I'm getting absolutely nothing in the email.

Ditto. It worked fine for one brief shining moment...

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 16:00:52 (permalink)
This has been mentioned a few times, and is my biggest gripe with the new format at this point (see post #17, etc.).
Susan G
 
Quoting the poster is working for me (see above). The problem I'm having (one of many) is that I can't just highlight a sentence or two, and have that be the only thing quoted as I did in the past. Now I get the whole post re-quoted along below the selection I made, and I have to delete that before submitting. Maybe the fact that I'm selecting what I want to quote is what's forcing the poster's attribution.
 
Also, for some reason, my reply to quoted text shows up in this italic font, so it almost looks like part of the quote instead of being in the normal new post font.




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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 16:08:30 (permalink)
Hi-

Yes, this works if you quote the (whole?) message, but oftentimes I don't want to do that, since it just takes up space. We used to have "In reply to <name>" in the lower right so it was clear to whom it was directed, whether the post was quoted or not.

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Re:Forum Enhancement Consolidation Thread 2009/07/24 16:13:52 (permalink)
The problem I'm having (one of many) is that I can't just highlight a sentence or two, and have that be the only thing quoted as I did in the past.

Actually, that part I think I have down!

Highlight what you want to quote, then click "Reply to Message" directly, neither of the options. When you do that, you'll get the section quoted, but you're right, with no attribution, which is why I miss the "In reply to...".

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