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RE: Free mixing template revised! 2009/10/01 05:55:30 (permalink)
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Oh yes, one question if I may? I loaded the template into Sonar 8 and read the release notes which mentioned that the Master Out was set to RMS and as such the mix should be around the -20 mark. I noticed that the demo song provided was peaking at just under 0db on the meters and wondered if this could have been reset by me using a new version of Sonar? Is there an easy way to set this back?

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Spence 

Hey there!
 
I'm not Jonas, but I can help you with your question.  The reason for the disparity is because you're reading the PEAK levels instead of the RMS (Root Median Square) levels as suggested.  To change this, click on the drop-down arrow found next to the Show/Hide All Meters button (It's to the right of the Snap to Grid button in the Tool Bar).  Go down to the end where it says "Bus Meter Options" and select "RMS".  That'll show you the average levels of the song, which is what Jonas was refering to.
 
 
HTH

Yes it does, that's great thanks!
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/10/03 19:39:40 (permalink)
Hi Jonas, thanks very much.
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/10/04 13:37:43 (permalink)
Hey Jonas

Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge - invaluable to relative newbies like myself ! It's a bit of a CPU muncher on my poor old system, but I'm learning loads from just pulling apart what you've set up. Top man, thank you !


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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/10/06 19:07:35 (permalink)
Many thanx for the template. I am a new user and it surely is a great place to start learning what mixing is all about.
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/10/07 07:41:22 (permalink)
Hell once again.
The Ozone presets do not seem to work in the latest Ozone 4. Has anyone got it working?
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/10/07 10:37:04 (permalink)
I created that Ozone preset long ago.  It was probably Ozone 1 or 2.  I don't have the new version, nor do I use it.  As I recall, the preset used very minimal processing, i.e. one or two bands of compression, EQ and single-band limiting.  I also turned off the exciters and wideners. 

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/10/16 05:27:34 (permalink)
the Ozone preset and mixing template are both fantastic, and very educational, so many thanks Jonas for sharing with the world.Top Man.

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/21 09:42:44 (permalink)
Hello Jonas

> I created that Ozone preset long ago.  It was probably Ozone 1 or 2.  I don't have the new version, nor do I use it. 

So, what are you now using in place of the ozone bits?

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/21 11:34:35 (permalink)
The Ozone preset was never used in the mixing template. 

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/21 20:48:43 (permalink)
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The Ozone preset was never used in the mixing template. 
Thank you for the response.
Good to know.
 
I was referring to your comment above about you not using Ozone.
 
If so, what are you preferring now?
 
J
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/23 12:28:49 (permalink)
Just to be clear, I've never used Ozone in my work, although I certainly could use the linear phase EQ for mastering without hesitation.  It can be a very effective tool for home-brew mastering, as long as it's not abused. 
 
These days, my mastering revolves around an Alan Smart C1 and a Manley Massive Passive.   Occasionally I'll get a project with the budget to rent a 2-inch tape machine, which is my favorite 'compressor'.  I also use the Algorythmix EQs when I need to do precise surgery.  On very rare occasions, I'll use a maul-da-band compressor, but only in desparation! 
 
For mixing, I use UAD plugins extensively.  The large variety of colors for compression and EQ have made mixing in the box a pleasure.   If UAD ever releases virtual versions of the Manley Vari-Mu and the Massive Passive, I will probably dispense of the mastering hardware.

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/24 12:57:54 (permalink)


First. Thank you Jonas!  A stunning eye opener for a total newbie...

It seems a rite of passage to find and download the template
You've finally joined the forum once you do and go "huh?"

I did the little drawing of the busses above to help myself start to sort it out.  Still working on the signal portion.  Hope it's accurate, and someone finds it useful!
post edited by NTO - 2009/11/24 13:50:27
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/24 13:48:36 (permalink)
Sheet 1 of the signal side...




post edited by NTO - 2009/11/24 14:01:02
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/24 13:59:52 (permalink)
Wow!  Those diagrams are cooler than the template itself!  Great job on this.

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/24 14:57:05 (permalink)
Thank you Sir.  It is an honor to contribute on your coat tails!

The rest of the signal routings...



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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/24 19:46:27 (permalink)
Thanks NTO, just like jsaras template this is a handy reference file.
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2009/11/28 10:25:24 (permalink)

For all my projects I have two tracks that are labeled as MIX 1 and MIX 2.

These route to the MAIN OUT bus,
    a bus with only a voxengo span and a vintage meter in the effects bin

The MASTER MIX bus is routed to the MAIN OUT bus.

This way, after bouncing to tracks for a mix, I can listen to the bounced track without having to change any outputs, or bypass any effects on the MASTER bus,...
 
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/04 18:09:49 (permalink)
bumpty dumpty!

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 01:43:40 (permalink)
Bump, how come this isn't a sticky post

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 07:33:49 (permalink)
If UAD ever releases virtual versions of the Manley Vari-Mu and the Massive Passive, I will probably dispense of the mastering hardware.

Jonas, I just saw a post from UA on facebook last night....
http://www.youtube.com/us...udio#p/u/0/xB534MIz9-0

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Re: RE: Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 10:01:11 (permalink)
Thanks man.  I missed the first one.  What was it?
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Re: RE: Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 13:24:57 (permalink)
Hello Jonas,

I just waded throught the *entire thread* on your *totally awesome* template.  This is a most exciting and educational project... thank you and major kudos for your time and effort! 

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Re: RE: Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 13:38:37 (permalink)
Thanks Jonas!! I'll definitley be using this template as a reference.

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Re: RE: Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 15:30:08 (permalink)
There's definitely some fun things within it.  Some of the routing may be over the top for simpler productions.  Even if you pick up just one or two new things you didn't know about before, it's worth the download.

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 15:49:29 (permalink)
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For mixing, I use UAD plugins extensively.  The large variety of colors for compression and EQ have made mixing in the box a pleasure.   If UAD ever releases virtual versions of the Manley Vari-Mu and the Massive Passive, I will probably dispense of the mastering hardware.


You just got half of your wish!  Go download UA v. 5.6 - it has the Manley Massive Passive EQ.



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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 15:56:42 (permalink)
Yes! A big thanks to Jonas for this. We use it as our standard template now. It's funny how often we say "Jonas" in our studio when talking about Sonar.
 
Great job!
 
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 18:03:13 (permalink)
You're embarassing me a bit here.  Glad you're getting good use from it.

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 20:16:08 (permalink)
Get that Manley!  It has the all-important transformer/inductor hysteresis!

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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 20:34:21 (permalink)
So when is a version of 'JSonar' gonna be released? (I can do some UI)....LOL xD
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Re:Free mixing template revised! 2010/03/18 21:57:20 (permalink)
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