toddbooster
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 02:49:11
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☄ Helpfulby Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] 2018/02/26 04:43:54
I really don't expect the core functionality to change that much, BandLab already has a good set of cloud based collaboration tools for making music. What they don't have is a deeper more professional software product to sell to their customers who get hooked and want to go further and get more serious. Enter Cakewalk.
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 03:34:43
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2018/02/26 04:24:46
Sir Les
I understand nothing of jibberish....I bought a program, and rights to use the program under a licence agreement....I did not buy the company, or the company that bought the company!
This is real simple. Your license agreement was with a company named Cakewalk. Cakewalk has ceased operations. So in that sense, the "lifetime" of Cakewalk has expired. No more development, no more bug fixes. Done! BandLab did not buy the company. They simply bought the assets of a former company that is no longer doing business. As an act of goodwill, BandLab has offered current Sonar holders with a free crossgrade to their future flagship program, as well as the ability to continue activating and using their currently licensed programs. That seems very generous to me, considering that they would have had no legal obligation to do so. So instead of being left holding a dead program, we now have the possibility for a future! 
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 04:27:10
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/02/26 13:37:00
Sir Les
I understand nothing of jibberish....
There's an irony in there!
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 05:01:48
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Wow, I'm ecstatic!
I am no longer afraid to turn my laptop on online again!
Thank you so much Meng, and welcome to the community, so very happy to see that Noel and Ben are part of the acquisition team!
Looking forward to what the Sonar future holds for the best DAW in the world!
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 05:11:31
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This DAW has always been the most musician/producer oriented, hope it continues in that tradition!
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 05:24:03
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Great to see/hear from you Sir!
The positivity is gleaning again!
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Frank Harvey
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 09:04:13
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Well Meng,
Nearly 19,000 views ..............
Your fantastic announcement has stirred the masses.
And I dare say many...... (maybe the bulk ) of Cakewalkers .....are still oblivious to this wonderful news.
But then again................I dare say some Cakewalkers ....who are not 'tapped In' to the forums, etc (ie:too busy making music) ........perhaps new nothing of events of recent months :). LOL
Cheers
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 09:16:31
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☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2018/02/26 15:32:42
I also met with Meng at NAMM, and he definitely has a vision for Sonar and other applications.
This can only be great news for Cakewalk users and please give them some time to figure it all out.
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 10:16:05
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SigiZ58
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 10:40:30
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I just came in since 2 weeks first time & am happy to read this anouncement.
But on the other hand I did not get any mail and have no idea how to crossgrade now... Still have to read all through ?
I am happy on one side for the product renewing, but confused as I does not know what to do.
A clear mail with all options to the current Cakewalk product license owners would be the right way I think.
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telecharge
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 11:28:04
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SigiZ58
I just came in since 2 weeks first time & am happy to read this anouncement.
But on the other hand I did not get any mail and have no idea how to crossgrade now... Still have to read all through ?
I am happy on one side for the product renewing, but confused as I does not know what to do.
A clear mail with all options to the current Cakewalk product license owners would be the right way I think.
I don't think there's been any mail. At least, I haven't received any messages from Cakewalk/BandLab. The news of the acquisition was just made Friday. There is nothing yet to crossgrade to More info here: https://blog.bandlab.com/cakewalk-announcement-faq EDIT: There's also an option to subscribe here: https://cakewalk.bandlab.com
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 11:42:27
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Really intrigued and curious where this will lead Sonar. There will probably be some cloud integration, sending stems back and forth between the cloud DAW and the Sonar Desktop App.
One wonders what this means for the Apple Experiment of last year...
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Westside Steve Simmons
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 11:43:22
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It may be covered here somewhere but I'm just curious as to which of the soft synthesizers and plugins are actually Cakewalk intellectual property and which ones aren't owned by cake but were just included as some sort of a partnership?
Im guessing Z3ta and dimension Pro and Studio instruments? And the Sonitus series of plugins?
Thanks
WSS
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SigiZ58
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 12:09:33
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Thank you telecharge this means I missed nothing yet.
The other things (supscription & reading FAQ) I did already, but honestly that opened more questions then answered.
I hope there will be a step-by-step howto for us current owners that cover all migration steps so that we will not loose or miss anything.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 13:41:35
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/02/26 13:42:24
Westside Steve Simmons
It may be covered here somewhere but I'm just curious as to which of the soft synthesizers and plugins are actually Cakewalk intellectual property and which ones aren't owned by cake but were just included as some sort of a partnership?
Im guessing Z3ta and dimension Pro and Studio instruments? And the Sonitus series of plugins?
Thanks
WSS
The above are all Cakewalk plugins. Most of the plugins listed here are all owned by Cakewalk with the exception of those that are bundles licensed from other companies like Overloud, Nomad factory, Celemony etc. More info will be shared later on on specifics.
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Westside Steve Simmons
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 13:45:06
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Westside Steve Simmons
It may be covered here somewhere but I'm just curious as to which of the soft synthesizers and plugins are actually Cakewalk intellectual property and which ones aren't owned by cake but were just included as some sort of a partnership?
Im guessing Z3ta and dimension Pro and Studio instruments? And the Sonitus series of plugins?
Thanks
WSS
The above are all Cakewalk plugins.
Most of the plugins listed here are all owned by Cakewalk with the exception of those that are bundles licensed from other companies like Overloud, Nomad factory, Celemony etc. More info will be shared later on on specifics.
Great! Thank you. PS extremely glad you are still on board! WSS
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MMontgomery
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 13:53:48
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Delighted that Sonar has found a new home. As a new user, only started out in Aug2017, I was a little concerned. Feeling more assured now that my investment, the learning curve and efforts thus far have not been wasted. Excited to see what develops in the future.
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Rasure
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 16:19:00
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Pleased to hear the news!
Although I have become rather fluent in S1 the past few months and loving it. Love the time stretching and how audio files (once you fill in the tempo field) stretch to the tempo automatically, with hardly any artifacts.
I do miss the ProChannel in Sonar though, especially the ProChannel EQ, that thing is just so smooth, haven't found another EQ that comes close to it yet, more so with the HP and LP filters. Will be watching with interest :-)
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 17:07:42
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telecharge
I don't think there's been any mail. At least, I haven't received any messages from Cakewalk/BandLab. The news of the acquisition was just made Friday. There is nothing yet to crossgrade to
I do hope a mass emailing does occur eventually. As noted by others, most users might still be oblivious to the turmoil. With the current activation process, hopefully all the Latest Generation users of SONAR Platinum family products can be contacted, assuming their email addresses they registered with are still (or ever were) valid. Short of some of Professor Xavier Cerebro type SONAR User detector, email is the best most likely way to reach us all. Once all the decisions and legal work have been done, that is.
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 17:10:18
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Rasure
I do miss the ProChannel in Sonar though, especially the ProChannel EQ, that thing is just so smooth, haven't found another EQ that comes close to it yet, more so with the HP and LP filters. Will be watching with interest :-)
I agree to 100%. The ProChannel EQ is the best one available today, because on the one hand it gives you a great overview to a channel's EQ setting and on the other hand it allows you quickly to see the details of the tracks frequencies for adjustment. And with ProChannel it is only one click to see the EQ of another track!
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 17:30:39
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I have been through so many adventures with this product and various owners over the years, I sincerely wish the new Owners all the best and hope this will be a better journey than the last, slightly bumpy ride.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 18:05:45
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Certainly as noted there are many Cakewalk users out there who are oblivious to what has happened. I'd say the majority of software users never join forums.
And please you folks who are still paranoid?? Why? And the folks making demands as lifetime purchasers?? I guess some people just don't "get it" no matter how many time this is explained.
One question I do have is what will become of Command Center? We can certainly live without it but it does make new installs go smoother than using manual. I guess it will live on sans any updates.
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abacab
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 18:20:05
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donwilliams
I also met with Meng at NAMM, and he definitely has a vision for Sonar and other applications.
This can only be great news for Cakewalk users and please give them some time to figure it all out.
Aha! Don the Overture guy... Thought I recognized that name! Picked up your Cakewalk crossgrade deal for Overture 5. Good stuff! Does this mean improved notation may be back on the table for Sonar? 
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 18:41:03
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/02/26 18:58:29
if so I think I just wet my pants 
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telecharge
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 18:47:23
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☄ Helpfulby SandlinJohn 2018/02/26 20:26:21
SandlinJohn
I do hope a mass emailing does occur eventually. As noted by others, most users might still be oblivious to the turmoil. With the current activation process, hopefully all the Latest Generation users of SONAR Platinum family products can be contacted, assuming their email addresses they registered with are still (or ever were) valid.
Short of some of Professor Xavier Cerebro type SONAR User detector, email is the best most likely way to reach us all. Once all the decisions and legal work have been done, that is.
I'm sure they're working on an email blast. I would expect them to push notifications to SONAR, as well, and perhaps make use of the Discover tab on the Start Screen.
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abacab
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 19:05:05
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Cactus Music
One question I do have is what will become of Command Center? We can certainly live without it but it does make new installs go smoother than using manual. I guess it will live on sans any updates.
I guess that is part of the puzzle of what all was included with the Cakewalk 'back-end' servers that BandLab bought. Most likely out of Gibson's reach now, in any case. My take is that the Command Center app is linked with and goes with the Cakewalk activation servers, and will be business as usual until something actually needs to change.
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 19:10:22
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abacab
donwilliams
I also met with Meng at NAMM, and he definitely has a vision for Sonar and other applications.
This can only be great news for Cakewalk users and please give them some time to figure it all out.
Aha! Don the Overture guy... Thought I recognized that name! Picked up your Cakewalk crossgrade deal for Overture 5. Good stuff!
Does this mean improved notation may be back on the table for Sonar?
Don is pretty effing awesome. If his work can be integrated with SONAR, that would be incredible.
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telecharge
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 19:16:59
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Yeah, Command Center is basically a download manager with DRM/authentication built-in. Similar to Waves Central, Native Access, Arturia Software Center, etc. I appreciate that Cakewalk kept Command Center optional, and didn't force it on us.
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Brian Walton
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 19:57:49
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Cactus Music
One question I do have is what will become of Command Center? We can certainly live without it but it does make new installs go smoother than using manual. I guess it will live on sans any updates.
It wasn't smooth for everyone. I thought it was terrible and only used the manual process, across 4 computers. In my experience, I'd call Command Center worthless.
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Re: Hello from BandLab
2018/02/26 20:05:47
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Anderton
abacab
donwilliams
I also met with Meng at NAMM, and he definitely has a vision for Sonar and other applications.
This can only be great news for Cakewalk users and please give them some time to figure it all out.
Aha! Don the Overture guy... Thought I recognized that name! Picked up your Cakewalk crossgrade deal for Overture 5. Good stuff!
Does this mean improved notation may be back on the table for Sonar?
Don is pretty effing awesome. If his work can be integrated with SONAR, that would be incredible.
Yes please make that happen! :) The last piece of the puzzle for me, a good notation feature within Sonar!
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