Yay!

Starting back a few pages ago ( before the annoying off topic)  this was mentioned and I've also read it in a few other threads scattered across this forum.
People are assuming that " The new DAW"  will be a continuation of Sonar. In other words the next Sonar Platinum  update.
I think they have made this very clear that this will not be the situation at all.  
X3e was the last of the "old way" Sonar was updated. A new number meant you had to pay, adding a letter was a free upgrade.    Since x3 we changed to rolling updates and you paid once a year to stay up to date.  all 4 versions of Sonar were constantly updated with new code that overwrites your currant version. You can keep the old versions for roll backs.  
November was the end of the line for this. So call it X4 instead of Splat and now we have what would have been X5 under the new owners. 
 
A totally new DAW running on Sonars code. 
What remains of that code can only be pure speculation but Noels comment was a great teaser and he seems to think we will all be pleased. Out of the last 5 pages that was the only comment worth reading and certainly cheered me up.  And the fact that this first release will be free to all of us is more great news. In the old days it would be the same as Cakewalk releasing X5 and saying it's free just because we like you. 
 

Cactus Music
Certainly as noted there are many Cakewalk users out there who are oblivious to what has happened. I'd say the majority of software users never join forums. 
And please you folks who are still paranoid?? Why? And the folks making demands as lifetime purchasers?? I guess some people just don't "get it" no matter how many time this is explained. 
 
One question I do have is what will become of Command Center? We can certainly live without it but it does make new installs go smoother than using manual. I guess it will live on sans any updates. 

What is there not 'to get' when expecting to receive a package I paid for, just as anyone else's package. To deny a platinum lifetime the updates they paid for will actually make it worse on them than anyone else.
Whatever version you paid for, you expect to retain 100% of that package. Lifetime updates were part of the 100% of the package that was included in that version.
So because lifetime update purchasers chose to go balls out on their purchase...for some reason you think they don't deserve the same 100% of their package, as anyone else?!?!
L.U. purchasers jumped on the front of the wagon, but they're to be the only ones who actually get less than what they paid for?!?!

Just my two synths...

Whoever offered the lifetime updates owes the users who bought them for any misrepresentation or failure to honor the contract of sale.
 
But a new company does not necessarily acquire the liabilities of a prior company.
And my bet is that if Bandlab was forced to honor free lifetime updates, that the product will fail and it will be a lose-lose situation.
 
So the issue is one for Gibson, not Bandlab as far as I can tell.
 
On a similar note, this is a caution for consumers.  Many companies offer lifetime warranties, but the warranty generally does not last longer than the lifetime.
 
 

WOW!!!..........bloody awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cactus Music
Starting back a few pages ago ( before the annoying off topic)  this was mentioned and I've also read it in a few other threads scattered across this forum.
People are assuming that " The new DAW"  will be a continuation of Sonar. In other words the next Sonar Platinum  update.
I think they have made this very clear that this will not be the situation at all.  
X3e was the last of the "old way" Sonar was updated. A new number meant you had to pay, adding a letter was a free upgrade.    Since x3 we changed to rolling updates and you paid once a year to stay up to date.  all 4 versions of Sonar were constantly updated with new code that overwrites your currant version. You can keep the old versions for roll backs.  
November was the end of the line for this. So call it X4 instead of Splat and now we have what would have been X5 under the new owners. 
 
A totally new DAW running on Sonars code. 
What remains of that code can only be pure speculation but Noels comment was a great teaser and he seems to think we will all be pleased. Out of the last 5 pages that was the only comment worth reading and certainly cheered me up.  And the fact that this first release will be free to all of us is more great news. In the old days it would be the same as Cakewalk releasing X5 and saying it's free just because we like you. 
 

 
Did you see my response above regard Perpetual License? Do you agree that a cross grade is likely to be a Perpetual License?
 
"People are assuming that " The new DAW"  will be a continuation of Sonar. In other words the next Sonar Platinum  update.
I think they have made this very clear that this will not be the situation at all. "
 
I don't think it's that clear at all that, and you are also making your own assumptions. We all are.
 
From Noel
"I'm sure Meng will chime in but you can rest assured that SONAR is not going to be dumbed down. The addition of SONAR completes BandLab's ecosystem by adding professional desktop production to their mobile platform.
 
So to include everything that Sonar has developed, I can't see them creating an entirely new DAW, that's a massive undertaking. I suspect it will be more like the change from 8.5 to X at the most.

melmyers

"lifetime updates continue......."



Who says lifetime updates continue? It would make no sense for BandLab to do that, since the money we paid went into Gibson's coffers. We cannot reasonably expect BandLab to continue to provide lifetime updates, because truly, once BandLab rebrands the product, Sonar Platinum's lifetime will be officially over. (In fact, Sonar Platinum's lifetime ended when Gibson dumped it weeks ago.)
 
Sorry, i mis-read about the lifetime updates continuing, the bit about lifetime owners will get the new software, with no crossgrade price etc
 

paul jenkins
 
Sorry, i mis-read about the lifetime updates continuing, the bit about lifetime owners will get the new software, with no crossgrade price etc
 

I assume it means 'one more update', on the house....  After that we're only guessing... 

i reckon the 3rd party deals don't count as IP, rather operations, so i'd be surprised if they're included for new users... but of course if you have them already, you have them already, unless they're locked to "classic" sonar

well exactly, if the 3rd party plugin is installed and licensed and working already...

Westside Steve Simmons
I would bet any of the companies giving away a limited edition of their software are doing so hoping that you will pull the trigger on the full version.
WSS

definitely, the gateway version... also, there's a difference between a host-locked limited edition, and a generic le that's host-agnostic, but they're both offering that discounted upgrade to the full version (all those threads asking "which plugins work in other hosts?")