Jonbouy

The majority of people having issues right now are running XP

Evidence?

Jonbouy, you must be either a lawyer or a judge. Have you not been reading the forum over the last 3 weeks.

Middleman

Jonbouy

The majority of people having issues right now are running XP

Evidence?

Jonbouy, you must be either a lawyer or a judge. Have you not been reading the forum over the last 3 weeks.

Yes, unfortunately for you I have been reading really carefully!

Here's the rest of the post you quoted.

Many are reporting UAC issues with W7 64 bit, aside from those installing S1 before you leap on that one.

Mike McCue isn't running XP AFAIK, and if you read his posts he explains why he is adopting his vocal style.  Basically because the 'proper reporting channels' have been less than satisfactory.  If you read the tales of many others carefully you'll realise they are saying similar things to Mike, old bugs all previously reported still enduring in X1

Are you saying these people are lying or are you just insecure because the software you bought isn't a golden fleece and it's down to you not wanting to hear that part of the story?

I'm glad things are working out for you and many others with the new update and I mean that.  So why are you now trying to undermine XP users, and potential XP customers, when Cakewalk have already committed to backing that platform?

And if I am to be a judge appointed by you my verdict is: FANBOY

You are selectively pulling here Jonbouy, there are numerous newbies who have posted over the last month running on their school laptops on XP.

In fact I was trying to help Mike earlier today with a sound issue.
 
I have never said there are no issues with X1 by the way and if you read my posts over the last month and have had my own negative comments. My issue is with the same 4 to 5 posters who continually repeat the same complaints over and over in every thread. Everyone gets it, they are not happy. There are more people saying they are doing fine for the most part.

That's not what I was alluding to. My negative comments were around form not bugs.

Undermining XP users? There must be some pain there but that was not my intent. It was trying to point out that upgrading in your future is probably the best course. I understand that people are upset if they bought the software thinking it would run perfectly in XP SP3. No doubt I would be upset about that as well however, just for edification, and I stated this prior, it is in your best interest to stay more current if this is your profession or you are running a business. Why would you want to increase your risk exposure. Yes, it's supposed to work, yes it was advertised but any one who has been around software knows that support and compatibility decrease over time.

Steve Mac
 
...coming from fanboys...
 

I have decided that I really don't like that word.  Yes it can be accurate when used correctly, but lately and on this forum, I see it being used more and more often as an insult with little or no basis for its use other than as a way to get somebody's goat.

rbowser

Steve Mac

Zuma

Nobody likes to hear their favorite sports team sucks, LOL.
"Hey! What the hell are you saying? You sonofa...."

Boy, does this hit the nail on the head!  Reading the various threads about the multiple problems in X1 -- and the vitriol coming from fanboys -- seemed exactly like this.  "How dare you saying anything negative about MY team!" 

Well, from the number of comments on various threads, by some very respected and long-time members of this forum, it would appear that "your team" (actually, OUR team) has a serious, serious problem. 

Just sayin. . . .

+1

The outrageous and over-the-top defense for this obviously faulty release makes for much more revolting reading than the pile of negative posts about X1.

The hyper defensiveness on this thread underlines all the more that X1 desperately needs defending in the first place.  Why would it need so much defense if it was actually working as advertised--?

Any sober look at X1 shows that it's a program full of neat ideas which have been clumsily implemented, at best.  Someone let a new, young team of programmer wannabes loose on Sonar, and they came up with a sophomoric attempt which doesn't give them a passing grade.  Hopefully, more experienced, better programmers will come back and clean up their mess.

RB

I don't think it's necessary to speculate about who is programming or what their age is.

Bugs, they exist.  Some people have issues, some don't.

I think we should all try to steer clear of speculation though.

Positively Charged

Steve Mac
 
...coming from fanboys...
 

I have decided that I really don't like that word.  Yes it can be accurate when used correctly, but lately and on this forum, I see it being used more and more often as an insult with little or no basis for its use other than as a way to get somebody's goat.

Are you sure you're not just saying that because deep down you are a fanboi?...

me asking for some civility and balance

Is it OK for me to call BS on this?

Just askin'

ba_midi


I don't think it's necessary to speculate about who is programming or what their age is...

What I said wasn't literal speculation on my part.  No personal offense was intended to any actual people.  I was just suggesting that the programming is so sketched in that it may as well have been something done by inexperienced programmers.  It's most likely been done by experienced people who were in a rush and under pressure to put out something quickly without thorough testing.  The point is there has to be some kind of explanation for the half broken program we now have. 

I really don't have any big problem since I have 8.5 which is doing me very well.  I hope the tantalizing ideas in X1 come to full fruition at some point.  That's all.

RB

@rbowser, I want you to quote this for number 5000

Jonbouy

My issue is with the same 4 to 5 posters who continually repeat the same complaints over and over in every thread. Everyone gets it, they are not happy.

Do you really not get the reasons why some have by their own admission been doing that?

My pet one is about Rewire which despite being sold Sonar 7 on the strength of it being capable in that department. still when I select any of the Stereo options aside from the first inputs they are mono.

It's been reported through the correct channels over at least a three year period and yet it still exists in X1.

I have clearly stated I am not renewing my subscription until such time issues such as these start getting addressed with some urgency.  Which is a shame as I love Cakewalk and Sonar in many ways, it is still my favourite DAW and Cakewalk are my favourite vendors, though experience with the forum software, the estore, and getting bugs fixed make me question my sanity sometimes in that regard.

Whoops I've just repeated the issues I have all over again.

Perhaps it's not all about you and some of us are hoping that somebody in a position to act will eventually hear.  A vain hope maybe but what are the choices again?

I don't know why I'm writing this. It's late, I'm tired, not thinking clearly. :) What bothers me is, there are a lot of people here that I respect that downplay some of the long standing issue's such as the rewire one and they say X1 is running really good for them. If you are going to do an honest review, and be truthful, wouldn't you recognize the long standing issues that keep getting pushed through and say, what the hell Cake, why hasn't this been fixed? Instead, it's downplayed and in some cases completely ignored in favor of a glowing response to X1. I'm not specifically talking about reviews, but even people just mentioning in passing how well X1 is working. How can you say it's working when we all know so much has gone unfixed for so long? It's misleading to newcomers and irresponsible. Imagine you never used Sonar before and you dished out $400 for X1 Producer based on the 'good' reviews you read here. Then all of a sudden you go to use Audio Snap, damn ... it doesn't work. V-Vocal, crap, it crashes regularly. And so on.

What I see going on lately is, people have had enough of buying a new version of Sonar and old problems not getting fixed. Unfortunately the people who are bringing that fact to light seem to be getting ridiculed for it.

I don't get it?

Middleman


Is that a terrorist threat?
 
I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

No you chump, it was a genuine thumbs up to our greatest ally!

Man!

Jonboy and Middleman you guys are making me f--ing laugh my balls off.

nighthadfallen


Jonboy and Middleman you guys are making me f--ing laugh my balls off.

The really sad thing is, is that if you told me to get a life the only honest response I could give is: But this is my life...