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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 17:33:54 (permalink)
A new forum platform is okay with me so long as I can select part of a post, click Reply/Quote, and have only the selected content quoted. An older iteration of the Cakewalk forum worked that way, but the current one does not, and few others I use do, either.
 
Also, the ability to embed images and files in posts without having to use a 3rd-party repository would be very desirable.
 
Actually, few other forums I frequent are as useable for me as this one, overall, but if I can have the above features, I'll adjust to everything else as necessary.
 
And I agree with others that the structure should not be changed radically. Specifically, having too many subforums should be avoided. It's easier to ignore a thread in which you have no interest in a free-for-all forum like this one than to check ten different subforums to make sure you're not missing something.

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 17:54:00 (permalink)
Wally. I think the reason you cannot add pictures directly is for a good reason. Adding a picture directly from your computer to a web page requires the servers to store that image. This forum would require much larger server storage to hold the images and whatnot so this is more costly for the forum provider.
The system this forum uses all images are just links to other servers where the pictures are stored, a true blue cloud system. 
So I don't mind the way we have things and I have a way I can post a screen shot in less than a minute. 
 
It requires two free services. One Drive ( or dropbox) and Imgur. 
You can set One drive or Drop box to save all screenshots to their Picture folder. = ALT/PRTSCRN  
You log on to Imgur and set it to stay logged on. 
And Imgur remembers your "browse" location so you save the screen shot, open Imgur, choose to upload an image and it opens in your One Drive folder and bingo. 
 
If you need to edit a picture you can "open" the screenshot in Paint and add little arrows and stuff. 
If you want to post a picture of a say your audio interface back panel, just use Google Images. You find it instantly. Some pictures don't work like the ones at Sweetwater that are using Flash player. 
 
 I agree Pictures are very helpful and this brings up an important topic about this forum. Newbie Rules! 
 
It's often a first time poster who has the most questions and they are frustrated by the fact they cannot post pictures or links. It would be nice to find a solution to this issue.
 
One I thought might work is that all Registered users of the software can post as full legit users from day one. Guests have limited rights and cannot post links. 
This would also clear out people pirating the software and expecting help. 
 
 

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 18:38:32 (permalink)
Cactus Music
 
The bakery was a classic case of  " we don't like this so we will not participate". 
 



Great point.
The Bakery was fail. The look and feel made no sense. Not only that but it seemed up-voting ideas got nothing accomplished.
 
Im excited for this next step with Bandlab.

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 18:40:52 (permalink)
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 20:21:50 (permalink)
Sounds goo to me. 
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 20:30:35 (permalink)
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Cactus Music
 
The bakery was a classic case of  " we don't like this so we will not participate". 
 



Great point.
The Bakery was fail. The look and feel made no sense. Not only that but it seemed up-voting ideas got nothing accomplished.
 
Im excited for this next step with Bandlab.




 
 
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 20:53:17 (permalink)
I love this forum, and I hope the new one can have a similar look and feel, and work the same. To me, it's very user-friendly. As for the "search," yes that never works so an improvement there would be most welcome.

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 20:55:33 (permalink)
A far as look and feel, please stay far, far away from anything like Get Satisfaction, Lithium, MyBB, phpBB, Reddit, StackExchange, or vBulletin.
 
In addition, many company websites which run their own forums tend to keep things in a very sterile sandbox that makes any sort of community interaction impossible.  The lack of community features, along with heavy handed moderation, makes you want to get in and out as quickly as you can get an answer.
 
I agree that XenForo would be a good choice.  Several other forums that I frequent are based on that, and they each have an active community.  They have good visual layouts and threads are easy to follow.  New posts can be easily viewed, and notification settings are flexible.  Search is functional.  Quoting and posting links and pictures is very usable.  Overall, the best that I have seen so far! 
 
Invision Community would be a close 2nd choice for me...

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 20:55:33 (permalink)
+1  No problem from me.
 
I have no preference concerning forum operating systems.

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 21:46:43 (permalink)
meng
Hi guys, 
 
It's been a whirlwind 48 hours for us and engaging with you guys here has just validated how incredible this community is. "Thank you" could not be said enough.

There are a lot more questions which have been asked that I will be able to give answers to in the week ahead so appreciate you all being patient. Understanding feature requests and ideas is really important to all of us as we define the product roadmap - so we'll be figuring out the right way to gather as much information as to what would be important to prioritise. 
 
Related to this... and the most important question we all need answered: 
 
Would anyone mind if we moved from APG to an alternative forum framework provider? 
 
Someone recommended XenForo in a thread, I'm also a fan of Invision Community - but this is something we could act on quite quickly in parallel while we're in the process of sorting everything else out 
 
I'm thinking it could be really valuable for us to do this quickly and with a fresh start, so I would like to migrate this forum into a locked "legacy" forum so no-one loses their posts and historical helpful info - but not needing to migrate threads would simplify things to no end. 
Happy to hear your thoughts!  




Hi Mr. Meng,
 
For me it is more of a role that we find a hearing for problems and desires and less as the communication is packed.

Although our Sonar may be called e.g BandLab Sound Researcher in the future, the software's success will not be able to feed on the echo of the past Sonar alone.
 
 

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 21:49:57 (permalink)
No, I don´t mind if we can have a similar look and feel.
 
Thank you very much for keeping Sonar alive .
best regards
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 22:52:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Del 2018/02/26 19:01:53
Go for it!  However, as has been mentioned, Please maintain account information, usernames etc.
 
Thanks.
 
(oh BTW, could we keep our post count?  It's taken me years to get where I am.  lol)

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/25 23:12:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Just Another Bloke 2018/02/27 18:14:28
Paul G
Go for it!  However, as has been mentioned, Please maintain account information, usernames etc.
 
Thanks.
 
(oh BTW, could we keep our post count?  It's taken me years to get where I am.  lol)


Me too on the post count :)

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 00:00:47 (permalink)
Love the idea of a new start. Bring it on..

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 00:09:55 (permalink)
Moving my own post http://forum.cakewalk.com/NEW-FORUM-REQUEST-m3732199.aspx

 
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 00:12:07 (permalink)
As long as it's really really easy!
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 02:12:50 (permalink)
Yes and give it the same colour structure as Sonar Plat

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 02:58:46 (permalink)
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A new forum platform is okay with me so long as I can select part of a post, click Reply/Quote, and have only the selected content quoted. An older iteration of the Cakewalk forum worked that way, but the current one does not...

 
I'd forgotten about that. Of course it's easy enough to delete the parts of the quote that you don't need, but a lot of people don't bother. Reading on my phone's small screen, I get tired of scrolling through long quotes.

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 03:07:08 (permalink)
Maybe make a permalink that says "this forum is now over here" or something, so people with bookmarks can still find it.  
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 03:41:29 (permalink)
A forum reboot on a new platform would be fine with me.  Whatever system you choose, I just hope it works better on a mobile platform than the existing system.  I'm quite frankly impressed that you asked.  As far as I'm concerned, BandLab is already at "Savior" status, so if you want/need to go to a new forum system, I'm all in and supportive.
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 04:36:40 (permalink)
There are so many other much worse forum layouts than this one. I'm skeptical. Maybe someone can point to some specific examples of better systems.

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 05:51:17 (permalink)
bvideo
There are so many other much worse forum layouts than this one. I'm skeptical. Maybe someone can point to some specific examples of better systems.




Most here seem to like the layout, but as previously mentioned, the forum search is lousy, and inserting/attaching media is limited/cumbersome. I would also add the design is dated with the old school bevels, gradients, and shadows.
 
Then there's the matter of hosting and managing the forum software. I don't know what the APG backend looks like, but I'm guessing BandLab isn't liking what they're seeing.
 
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 08:46:01 (permalink)
+1 from me

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 10:18:37 (permalink)
In line with most peoples thinking as long as we still have the same access we have now
I don't see a problem.

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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 10:54:37 (permalink)
The only things Is
 
If we own  all products and Sonar Platinum
Will we have to pay all over again?????.
 
Not anther£400 plus all Vst Instruments
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 11:06:01 (permalink)
igiwigi
The only things Is
 
If we own  all products and Sonar Platinum
Will we have to pay all over again?????.
 
Not anther£400 plus all Vst Instruments


Wrong thread, this is about the forum. Read the other thread before posting, because it answers.

 
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 11:52:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SandlinJohn 2018/02/26 14:29:55
Thank you everyone for your responses - it's great to get the vibe of the community as to how they feel about the medium they prefer to communicate within.

Making changes to a forum format may feel like a small thing, but like many of you have identified - the community around Cakewalk is one of the key differentiators vs other platforms and at BandLab, we're all about social communities so we would like to keep it that way, we definitely don't want to hinder Cakewalk's community in any way or form :-) migrating other functional services, imho, are far easier than migrating user behaviour or where people "live".
 
In response and based on feedback too:
 
1) We definitely will be keeping to the forum/thread format - no Reddit/Stackoverflow style 
2) We'll try and keep as close to the current colour scheme/design as possible within the new framework
3) We won't be removing this site - we'll likely keep this forum "archived" here at forum.cakewalk.com and set up a new one at discuss.cakewalk.com (or a similar subdomain) which means new posts will no longer be possible and there will be strong signage up towards the new forum
4) Feature requests and preferences are noted
 
I don't know if it will be possible to move everyone's post count though - maybe it can be manually done if everyone keeps to the same username or if we can implement single sign on <- this is something we're already looking at.
 
Once we've got a proper timeline for the change, we'd definitely still want community moderators/forum hosts if they are still keen on/enthusiastic about having those responsibilities. 

Thanks again to all who have participated here and I'll leave this up for a day more before unpinning it and letting it drift into the ether... I'll also be addressing some concerns and questions that have come up about what direction future development will take within the "Hello from BandLab" thread :-)
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Re: Important Question! :-) 2018/02/26 12:04:11 (permalink)
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Thanks again to all who have participated here and I'll leave this up for a day more before unpinning it and letting it drift into the ether... I'll also be addressing some concerns and questions that have come up about what direction future development will take within the "Hello from BandLab" thread :-)




Thanks for the update. FYI, I've sent you a couple of PMs, but your inbox is full.
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