Indeed, me too. They're gone from the track header, but obviously, that doesn't sound as dramatic as claiming THEY'RE GONE. Your point about inflating claims, again.

:-(


You seem to think one can inflate by omission.







John-T, It seems to take you multiple post to not get your point across.

Why do you gotta hate on me I just because I communicate more effectively than you?


all the best,
mike

And let's face it, this is what you actually want, isn't it? You just like having a barney on the internet. You're not ever interested in the discussion at hand.

That "I believe in the cakewalk community" thing was quite plainly a joke, in context. So there are two options here: 1/ you understand this, so you're being disingenuous in order to pursue a pointless argument. 2/ You don't understand this, which would make you, frankly, an idiot. It's about the most un-subtle thing I've ever typed on here.

Anything you want to throw in about lost functionality here? If not, you could go and make a "things I dislike about John T" thread instead of crapping in this one, I wouldn't mind.

John T


Since you're asking directly, I'll give you an answer. I don't hate you, that would be kind of weird, but I do think you're an irritating pompous ****.

Hi John-T,

Good to know, but I didn't think you have enough focus to muster a good hate.

It seems to me that you act more like a mutating virus that metabolizes where ever it can find a niche.

For example; I anticipate that today's

JOHN-T says "Mike, please go and die in a fire."

statement will be replaced tomorrow with some other uniquely John-T™ sentiment.





all the best,
mike

So, it's like gone?


Add that to the list.

Anyone any idea where we are on lost functionality yet? Only thing I can think of, and I will stand corrected if it is still there......is............

I can no longer paint pre-made MIDI note patterns. I do now mainly use the step sequencer anyway but it is something I wish was available occasionally. Anyone else notice that one, or is it still there and I can't find it, or does no one else care anyway?

Thanks Scott.

So the count is at 1 ATM, and AFAIK in the 8 months that X1 has been out no one else has mentioned it. Plenty of banging on about missing stuff that isn't missing but none that actually is.

Anything else?

"I'd like to see if we could list functions or capabilities that are no longer available in X1 but were available in 8.5."

1. I can no longer change Phase from the Track Header like I could in 8.5.

2. I can no longer monitor or change Interleave from the Track Header like I could in 8.5. This is akin to removing level meters IMO.

3. Almost all of the buttons are missing from the Tool Bar that were there in 8.5.

4. I can no longer customize any portion of the Tool Bar like I could in 8.5.

5. I can no longer customize colors like I could in 8.5.

6. I can no longer monitor the percentage of my CPU Usage like I could in 8.5. It is now a graphical representation that kind of leaves you guessing.

7. I can no longer access all envelopes at once like I could in 8.5.

8. Envelopes are no longer labeled like they were in 8.5.

9. The Guitar Tuner is no longer available like it was in 8.5.

10. Lexicon Reverb is no longer available like it was in 8.5.

11. Note lengths in PRV are not remembered like they were in 8.5.

12. We no longer have the option to remove all VST's like we did in 8.5. ( ... The Pro Channel). Even if you remove the .DLL's, the graphical part of the Pro Channel can not be removed.

These are just a few things off the top of my head. This doesn't include any of the hundreds of bugs.

Exactly... and where do you get your stats from? Where can I view this list of hundreds of bugs, sounds like **** to me.

FastBikerBoy


Anyone any idea where we are on lost functionality yet?

There is definitely no '8' in the name of the program.
 
What were they thinking.

FastBikerBoy


Er.......... I think the question was loss of function as opposed to change of function?

"I'd like to see if we could list functions or capabilities that are no longer available in X1 but were available in 8.5."

I am no longer capable of performing certain functions in X1 the same way I did in 8.5

Don't know how much clearer to make the OP's question, and my answers, than that FBB. :)

Come on ... you're more talented than that! HEHE! :)

FastBikerBoy


Thanks Scott.

So the count is at 1 ATM, and AFAIK in the 8 months that X1 has been out no one else has mentioned it. Plenty of banging on about missing stuff that isn't missing but none that actually is.

Anything else?

I did in a thread that was asking all these guys that don't like X1 to document where it has lost features. In that thread I did find the Patterned Brush missing. There are a couple other things X1 left out. But it also added stuff. Something it seems forgotten by the complainers.

Over all its a wash. X1 has all the capabilities that Sonar in the past had only now for the most part things have been moved around. Often the change is better.  But if one is unable to go with the change then X1 maybe tough to use for them.

I see it as rather easy to use and understand. Most of the things that have changed have made X1 faster and more user friendly. This does go toward the notion of the things I do most with X1.  Things that required endless mouse clicking through menus now are done with just one or two mouse clicks.    

Its funny though I did in that thread try to distinguish between personal preference and real missing ability.  What we have here is the same basic thing.

Without reading the manual thoroughly people don't have an idea where things are - how they have been implemented.  Thus they think one can no longer do something that was done in 8.5 in X1.  Ignorance is the cause of this and unfortunately some here promote that ignorance  for their own reasons.

Also confusing on purpose a change of location of a item with missing features is the mark of a troll. It is unworthy of the purpose of this forum. Yet for some reason people don't stop it.

Its as if whatever is said no matter how wrong is valid. When did this forum begin to except such nonsense?

John T keep up the good fight for truth.

FastBikerBoy

I am no longer capable of performing certain functions in X1 the same way I did in 8.5

If we're going down that route there'll be hundreds.

I can no longer open the PRV in it's own window. In X1 it always opens in the multidock, that's not really the point though is it?

Well ... yeah, it is the point if it's something that hinders your workflow and you don't care for. I find that just as valid a concern and as on topic as anything I posted.

He didn't ask for a list of functions only, he asked for capabilities as well.

Not a big deal either way honestly ... they are going to do what they are going to do regardless of what we say here ...

Bub

FastBikerBoy

I am no longer capable of performing certain functions in X1 the same way I did in 8.5

If we're going down that route there'll be hundreds.

I can no longer open the PRV in it's own window. In X1 it always opens in the multidock, that's not really the point though is it?

Well ... yeah, it is the point if it's something that hinders your workflow and you don't care for. I find that just as valid a concern and as on topic as anything I posted.

He didn't ask for a list of functions only, he asked for capabilities as well.

Not a big deal either way honestly ... they are going to do what they are going to do regardless of what we say here ...

Well for one thing confusing ability with preference is to some extent a false undertaking. It tells others incorrectly that things can't be done when they most certainly can be. It also opens the door for the very few that can't stand X1 to add their nonsense to the thread.

A color preference or look of the program is not by any stretch a loss of audio or MIDI function.